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    Unbelievably The Four Preps are still active although only lead vocalist Bruce Belland is still alive. One member (who died in 2014) was Glen A. Larson whose name may be more familiar to televison viewers - he created many TV programmes including Alias Smith And Jones, Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Quincy, M.E., The Fall Guy, Magnum, PI and Knight Rider.

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    • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
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      Unbelievably The Four Preps are still active although only lead vocalist Bruce Belland is still alive. One member (who died in 2014) was Glen A. Larson whose name may be more familiar to televison viewers - he created many TV programmes including Alias Smith And Jones, Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Quincy, M.E., The Fall Guy, Magnum, PI and Knight Rider.
      I used to love Alias Smith And Jones as a kid, not even realising it was a rip-off of Butch Cassidy and The Sunshine Kid! By the time Battlestar Galactica arrived a few years later, everyone could see that was a (bad) copy of Star Wars.....

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      • Originally posted by Metalweb View Post

        I used to love Alias Smith And Jones as a kid, not even realising it was a rip-off of Butch Cassidy and The Sunshine Kid! By the time Battlestar Galactica arrived a few years later, everyone could see that was a (bad) copy of Star Wars.....
        The wikipedia page for Glen A. Larson reveals he was much cricitised for plagiarism and indeed was fined for stealing plots and characters from The Rockford Files for his own programmes. His response to the fine was to steal the theme music instead which apparently led to James Garner punching him when the two met...

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        • Greetings Pop Pickers !

          There are 13 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 2nd 1960.

          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 2nd 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 38 50 30 Points
          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
          8 1 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 1 1 1 2 3 2 7572
          2 2 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis* 4 5 2 4 1 3 7386
          3 3 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 2 3 3 3 2 1 7334
          6 4 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 5 2 4 5 5 4 7038
          1 5 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 3 4 5 1 4 7 6930
          27 6 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 7 6 6 7 14 13 5802
          4 7 Cradle Of Love - Johnny Preston 6 8 12 9 7 5 5796
          20 8 Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 8 9 8 8 11 8 5704
          NEW 9 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 10 7 7 6 17 21 5310
          14 10 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 11 14 9 10 8 10 5258
          10 11 Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 9 10 13 13 6 14 5204
          5 12 Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 12 12 11 11 10 9 5190
          7 13 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 13 12 13 14 9 6 5096
          11 14 Sixteen Reasons - Connie Stevens 15 15 16 15 15 11 4188
          13 15 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 17 17 15 16 18 12 3870
          17 16 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 16 19 17 18 13 16 3644
          26 17 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 18 16 10 17 15 3472
          9 18 Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 14 20 20 12 12 25 3392
          12 19 Shazam - Duane Eddy 19 22 18 20 16 18 3058
          15 20 River Stay 'Way From My Door - Frank Sinatra 20 18 19 22 1910
          16 21 Stairway To Heaven - Neil Sedaka 23 17 1060
          25 22 Talkin' Army Blues- Josh McCrae 19 720
          18 23 Footsteps - Steve Lawrence 19 23 696
          22 24 Mustapha - Bob Azzam 24 560
          NEW 25 He'll Have To Stay - Jeanne Black 20 550
          NEW 26 Paper Roses - Anita Bryant 25 480
          NEW 27 Green Fields - The Brothers Four 26 400
          NEW 27 Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 26 400
          RE 29 That's Love - Billy Fury 19 360
          21 30 Let The Little Girl Dance - Billy Bland 20 330
          Mama - Connie Francis 11
          When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 20
          I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 28 240
          Romantica - Jane Morgan 28 240
          The Urge - Freddie Cannon 24 210
          That's You - Nat King Cole 26 150
          You'll Never Know What You're Missin' - Emile Ford and The Checkmates 27 120
          Lucky Five - Russ Conway 28 90
          Green Fields - The Beverly Sisters 30 80
          Sweet Dreams - Dave Sampson 29 60
          How Do You Know It's Love - Teresa Brewer 30 30
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          • The 5 charts can't agree on #1 this week and the position is split 4 ways but Jimmy Jones just nudges ahead.
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            • Greetings Pop Pickers !

              There are 14 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 9th 1960.

              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 9th 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 38 50 30 Points
              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
              1 1 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 1 1 1 1 1 1 7740
              9 2 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 3 3 2 2 5 6 7132
              4 3 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 4 2 4 6 3 7 7010
              2 4 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis 2 5 6 3 2 4 6904
              6 5 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 6 4 5 8 6 5 6624
              3 6 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 5 7 8 4 4 2 6546
              5 7 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 7 7 10 5 7 3 6208
              8 8 Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 8 6 3 10 8 15 6108
              17 9 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 9 9 6 7 11 10 5802
              10 10 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 10 11 9 9 9 11 5456
              11 11 Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 11 12 12 16 10 8 4970
              12 12 Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 12 13 13 11 16 9 4690
              13 13 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 15 14 16 17 14 14 4152
              16 14 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 16 19 11 15 12 22 3988
              18 15 Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 13= 16 20 12 15 17 3802
              14 16 Sixteen Reasons - Connie Stevens 17 20 18 14 17 18 3396
              7 17 Cradle Of Love - Johnny Preston 13= 17 13 13 12 3274
              15 18 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 19 22 15 18 20 20 3054
              20 19 River Stay 'Way From My Door - Frank Sinatra 18 18 19 19 2000
              NEW 20 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 21 19 20 1938
              NEW 21 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 23 17 1480
              19 22 Shazam - Duane Eddy 20 18 13 1190
              22 23 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 14 1020
              NEW 24 Bill Bailey Won't You Please Come Home - Bobby Darin 24 560
              NEW 24 Angela Jones - Johnny Ferguson 24 560
              NEW 26 Look For A Star - Jericho Brown 19 456
              21 27 Stairway To Heaven - Neil Sedaka 16 450
              27 28 Green Fields - The Brothers Four 26 400
              NEW 29 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 27 30 350
              NEW 30 Walking The Floor Over You - Pat Boone 27 320
              Mama - Connie Francis 10
              When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 15
              How Do You Know It's Love - Teresa Brewer 21 300
              Mustapha - Bob Azzam 23 240
              That's Love - Billy Fury 24 210
              Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 25 180
              Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 29 160
              You'll Never Know What You're Missin' - Emile Ford and The Checkmates 26 150
              Let The Little Girl Dance - Billy Bland 27 120
              Lucky Five - Russ Conway 28 90
              Green Fields - The Beverly Sisters 30 80
              The Urge - Freddie Cannon 29 60
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              • Bill Bailey Won't You Please Come Home - Bobby Darin. Is that the song about the fella who won the Strictly Come Dancing competition?

                Stairway To Heaven - Neil Sedaka. An early version of the Led Zeppelin tune?

                He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves. He'll Have To Stay - Jeanne Black. So that's where The Clash got the idea for Should I stay or should I go?

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                • Stairway To Heaven - Neil Sedaka. An early version of the Led Zeppelin tune?
                  No it's completely different.
                  A few of the lyrics:
                  I'll build a stairway to heaven
                  I'll climb to the highest star
                  I'll build a stairway to heaven
                  Cause heaven is where you are
                  Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                  • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                    There are 14 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

                    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 16th 1960.

                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 16th 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 38 50 30 Points
                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                    1 1 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 1 1 1 1 1 1 7740
                    2 2 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 2 2 2 2 2 2 7482
                    3 3 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 3 3 5 4 4 4 6986
                    4 4 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis* 4= 6 6 5 3 3 6868
                    9 5 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 4= 4 3 3 7 10 6734
                    8 6 Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 6 5 4 6 6 6 6650
                    5 7 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 7 7 7 9 5 8 6186
                    6 8 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 8 10 9 7 8 5 5842
                    10 9 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 9 9 8 8 9 7 5834
                    7 10 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 10 13 12 10 10 11 5028
                    21 11 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 11 8 10 11 19 4460
                    20 12 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 13= 14 11 17 16 20 4172
                    13 13 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 12 15 15 14 17 14 4096
                    11 14 Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 13= 17 16 18 12 13 4004
                    14 15 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 15 21 19 16 11 15 3570
                    NEW 16 When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers 17 16 14 15 2828
                    NEW 17 Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 17 13 20 2750
                    12 18 Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 16 23 13 15 12 2694
                    15 19 Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 18 28 19 13 16 2046
                    18 20 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 19 17 12 22 1832
                    19 21 River Stay 'Way From My Door - Frank Sinatra 26 18 18 1440
                    29 22 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 19 20 1378
                    17 23 Cradle Of Love - Johnny Preston 20 14 17 1270
                    23 24 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 18 780
                    NEW 25 The Lady Is A Tramp - Buddy Greco 22 720
                    16 26 Sixteen Reasons - Connie Stevens 9 660
                    24 27 Angela Jones - Johnny Ferguson 24 560
                    NEW 28 If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley 25 480
                    RE 29 That's Love - Billy Fury 19 360
                    NEW 30 Angry - Marty Wilde 27 320
                    When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 11
                    Mama - Connie Francis 12
                    Elvis Is Back (LP) - Elvis Presley 20 20 1540
                    You'll Never Know What You're Missin' - Emile Ford and The Checkmates 21 300
                    Love Is Like A Violin - Kenn Dodd 29 28 250
                    Stairway To Heaven - Neil Sedaka 23 240
                    Paper Roses - Anita Bryant 24 210
                    Shazam - Duane Eddy 25 180
                    Walking The Floor Over You - Pat Boone 29 160
                    Come Back Again - Anne Shelton 29 160
                    Footsteps - Steve Lawrence 26 150
                    How Do You Know It's Love - Teresa Brewer 27 120
                    Green Fields - The Beverly Sisters 29 60
                    That's You - Nat King Cole 30 30
                    * This week the split sides would have affected NME's
                    averaged chart position so an average was taken
                    from the other 4 charts giving an average of 4.25
                    and awarded to NME to give a more representative
                    chart position for both sides together.
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                    • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                      There are again 14 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

                      Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 23rd 1960.

                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 23rd 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
                      Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 38 50 30 Points
                      Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                      1 1 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 2 2 1 1 2 1 7610
                      2 2 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 1 1 2 2 1 2 7612
                      5 3 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 3 3 3 3 3 4 7194
                      3 4 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 4 4 6 4 5 3 6826
                      6 5 Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 6= 11 4 6 6 5 6200
                      4 6 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis 5 9 8 5 4 7 6198
                      7 7 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 6= 7 9 9 8 6 5976
                      11 8 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 10 5 5 8 13 14 5924
                      16 9 When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers 6= 6 7 7 11 12 5922
                      9 10 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 9 8 10 10 7 10 5728
                      8 11 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 11 13 15 12 9 8 4912
                      17 12 Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 12 15 12 11 10 11 4830
                      28 13 If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley 13 10 11 15 15 15 4768
                      13 14 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 15 14 17 16 17 9 4130
                      12 15 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 14 21 14 14 12 13 3956
                      NEW 16 Because They're Young - Duane Eddy 16 15 13 13 28 3134
                      10 17 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 17 24 20 17 16 19 2862
                      RE 18 Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 20 18 18 20 16 2688
                      NEW 19 Apache - The Shadows 19 19 1680
                      22 20 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 22 19 23 1560
                      15 21 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 18 27 14 18 1560
                      14 22 Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 26 18 20 1380
                      24 23 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 16 900
                      25 24 The Lady Is A Tramp - Buddy Greco 30 20 26 780
                      19 25 Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 19 21 756
                      NEW 26 Mais Oui - The King Brothers 23 640
                      18 27 Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 30 17 500
                      RE 28 Look For A Star - Jericho Brown 18 494
                      30 29 Angry - Marty Wilde 25 480
                      NEW 30 Come Back Again - Anne Shelton 27 320
                      When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 12
                      Elvis Is Back (LP) - Elvis Presley 19 17 1120
                      Mama - Connie Francis 19
                      He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 22 270
                      River Stay 'Way From My Door - Frank Sinatra 24 210
                      That's Love - Billy Fury 25 180
                      Wonderful World - Sam Cooke 27 120
                      How Do You Know It's Love - Teresa Brewer 29 60
                      Cradle Of Love - Johnny Preston 30 30
                      * No 2 on points but No 1 on majority of charts.
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                      • Jimmy Jones achieves #1 status this week as he holds that position in 3 of the four charts.
                        The Shadows kick off their solo chart career with a stunning single that is as vibrant today as it was back in 1960. The same applies to Johnny Kidd.
                        It's purely a personal opinion but I think Jericho Brown's Look For A Star is superior to Garry Mills' version.
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                        • Looking at these charts you can see why the Beatles had a hard time getting signed. The acts are nearly all solo artists. The only group being the Shadows and that was all instrumental! The rest of the groups were backing acts for solo artists, even the Shadows!
                          You go along to a record company with an act like the "Beatles" and they would have said plenty of backing bands, who's the singer?
                          The other reason was the money. EMI would give you 1d a side (45 rpm). So a group would have to split that four ways in the Beatles case plus 5 ways for their manger!
                          Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                            There are 11 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

                            Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 30th 1960.

                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 30th 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 110 50 30 Points
                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                            2 1 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 1 1 1 1 1 1 9900
                            1 2 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 2 2 2 2 2 2 9570
                            3 3 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd anmd The Pirates 3 3 3 3 3 3 9240
                            9 4 When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers 4 6 5 5 5 5 8500
                            6 5 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis* 5 13 9 4 4 15 7960
                            4 6 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 6 4 8 8 10 9 7780
                            5 7 Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 8 10 7 9 7 8 7610
                            NEW 8 A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley 9 8 4 6 13 19 7470
                            13 9 If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley 7 9 12 7 9 4 7450
                            8 10 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 11 5 6 11 14 7 7350
                            12 11 Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 10 11 14 10 8 12 6650
                            19 12 Apache - The Shadows 12 7 10 15 12 14 6400
                            16 13 Because They're Young - Duane Eddy 14= 11 11 12 15 11 6290
                            7 14 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 14= 14 13 13 11 10 6050
                            10 15 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 13 17 18 14 6 13 5560
                            11 16 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 16 20 19 16 16 17 4420
                            18 17 Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 17 19 18 18 18 3430
                            14 18 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 19 22 20 17 6 3380
                            RE 19 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 20 17 17 27 2500
                            15 20 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 27 15 19 16 2330
                            NEW 21 Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris 18 15 20 24 2150
                            20 22 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 23 20 25 1370
                            RE 23 Angela Jones - Johnny Ferguson 19 1320
                            23 24 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 15 960
                            NEW 25 Train Of Love - Alma Cogan 24 560
                            27 26 Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 28 23 480
                            26 27 Mais Oui - The King Brothers 26 30 430
                            17 28 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 20 330
                            22 29 Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 21 300
                            21 30 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 22 270
                            When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith 16
                            Mama - Connie Francis 18
                            The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley 21
                            Elvis Is Back (LP) - Elvis Presley 24
                            Papa Loves Mama - Donald Peers 28 240
                            The Lady Is A Tramp - Buddy Greco 26 150
                            Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 28 90
                            Banjo Boy - Valerie Masters 30 80
                            Alley Oop - The Hollywood Argyles 29 60
                            * This week the split sides would have affected NME's
                            averaged chart position so an average was taken
                            from the other 4 charts giving an average of 8 for
                            Connie Francis and 7.75 for Adam Faith
                            and awarded to NME to give a more representative
                            chart position for both sides together.
                            Last edited by MrTibbs; Wed December 23, 2020, 21:18.
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                            • Cliff captures #1 this week dominating all 5 charts.
                              Donald Peers' Papa Loves Mama was much played by Uncle Mac on Childrens' Choice back in the day. Happy Memories of that show on a Saturday morning.
                              Last edited by MrTibbs; Tue December 22, 2020, 11:52.
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                              • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Hope you are all enjoying 1960 !

                                There are 9 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

                                Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 6th 1960.

                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 6th 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
                                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 110 50 30 Points
                                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                1 1 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 1 1 1 1 1 3 9840
                                3 2 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 2 3 3 2 3 1 9410
                                8 3 A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley* 3 4 2 3 2 8 9140
                                2 4 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 4 2 4 4 4 2 9130
                                4 5 When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers 6 8 6 5 5 6 8250
                                12 6 Apache - The Shadows 5 5 5 6 6 15 8120
                                13 7 Because They're Young - Duane Eddy 9 7 7 9 12 4 7540
                                11 8 Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 7= 10 10 8 8 9 7280
                                9 9 If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley 7= 9 8 10 7 16 7100
                                5 10 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis* 10 12 15 7 10 7 7070
                                10 11 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 11 6 9 11 13 12 6990
                                7 12 When Johnny Comes Marching Home / Made You - Adam Faith 13 13 11 13 9 10 6350
                                6 13 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 12 11 17 12 11 5 6310
                                14 14 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 14 18 16 15 15 17 4920
                                17 15 Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 15 19 19 14 16 13 4840
                                21 16 Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris 16 14 12 19 17 24 4730
                                20 17 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 19 20 14 18 19 18 4320
                                22 18 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 18 17 20 17 20 20 4200
                                15 19 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 17 26 16 14 11 3500
                                16 20 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 20 24 18 19 1570
                                19 21 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 20 25 1390
                                NEW 22 As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey 23 20 1300
                                18 23 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 22 14 1230
                                24 24 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 13 1080
                                27 25 Mais Oui - The King Brothers 21 28 890
                                NEW 26 Listen Little Girl - Keith Kelly 18 780
                                25 27 Train Of Love - Alma Cogan 26 400
                                30 28 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 21 300
                                28 29 Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 22 270
                                23 30 Angela Jones - Johnny Ferguson 28 240
                                Made You - Adam Faith 15
                                Mama - Connie Francis 16
                                The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley 25
                                Elvis Is Back (LP) - Elvis Presley 29 160
                                Down Yonder - Johnny and The Hurricanes 23 240
                                Cradle Of Love - Johnny Preston 26 150
                                Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee 27 120
                                Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 30 30 110
                                Papa Loves Mama - Joan Regan 29 60
                                * This week the split sides would have affected NME's
                                averaged chart position so an average was taken
                                from the other 4 charts giving an average of 3.75
                                to Elvis Presley and 9.75 to Connie Francis
                                and awarded to NME to give a more representative
                                chart position for both sides together.
                                Last edited by MrTibbs; Wed December 23, 2020, 21:19.
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                                • NME, RM, MM, Disc all go with Cliff at #1 and RR goes with Johnny Kidd. It kinda stands out who is out of step big time. Nuff said
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                                  • Shirley Bassey wanted to play Nancy in the film version of Oliver Twist, the song that the character sings in the musical, which has just entered at 22. Though the film itself was still in the future at this point. Of course the film people went with a white woman in the end. However it was a bitter blow for Shirley and was probably for racist reasons should didn't get the part. Many years later the production of Oliver Twist would include a black woman playing Nancy. It's just a shame Shirley wasn't given the part in the film. She was the better singer after all.
                                    Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                    • On the 30th July 1960 Adam Faith - "Made You" should be #10 in NME Charts while "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" which your right is at #16 in NME.

                                      On the 6th August 1960 Jimmy Jones "Handy Man" you've put down twice and should be on 110 points on Total Points Scored.

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                                      • Hmmmm. I'll go back and fix those , thanks again. The early sixties are more difficult to work with due to five charts and all the split sides on NME. However for the foreseeable future I will post one chart a day in order for me to take more time checking each chart to eradicate these occasional errors.
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                                        • Guys, I have amended the two charts for those of you that copy them. Adam Faith's Ultimate Chart Position and points were correct I had simply not changed the NME position back to 10 once I had completed the average for the split title position.

                                          I normally get a prompt when I type in a duplicate title but somehow I missed the Jimmy Jones one.

                                          Posting one chart a day is better for now as these earlier years take a bit longer due to working with 5 charts, the NME's split sides which are more frequent at this time, and I now want to check each chart in detail before posting because of these higher risks of error. Hope this is ok with you guys , as I strive at all times to give you 100% accuracy.
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                                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                            There are 11 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

                                            Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 13th 1960.

                                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 13th 1960 NME RM MM DISC RR Total
                                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 60 110 50 30 Points
                                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                            1 1 Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard 1 1 1 1 1 1 9900
                                            6 2 Apache - The Shadows 3 2 2 4 3 3 9270
                                            3 3 A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley 2 3 3 3 2 4 9260
                                            2 4 Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 4 5 4 2 4 2 9110
                                            4 5 Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones 5 4 7 5 7 5 8440
                                            5 6 When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers 6 6 5 6 5 7 8330
                                            7 7 Because They're Young - Duane Eddy 7 7 6 7 9 6 7910
                                            8 8 Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland 8 10 10 8 6 8 7410
                                            9 9 If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley 9 8 9 10 8 11 7220
                                            16 10 Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris 11 11 8 9 13 12 6870
                                            11 11 Look For A Star - Garry Mills 10 8 11 14 10 9 6620
                                            10 12 Robot Man / Mama - Connie Francis* 12 18 19 11 11 14 5810
                                            13 13 Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce 13 12 15 15 14 10 5720
                                            12 14 When Johnny Comes Marching Home / Made You - Adam Faith* 15 19 13 16 12 16 5470
                                            18 15 Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters 14 14 16 13 16 21 5290
                                            17 16 I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee 17 13 18 17 20 13 4850
                                            15 17 Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd 16 23 20 12 15 19 4550
                                            14 18 What A Mouth - Tommy Steele 19= 20 14 20 17 15 4290
                                            22 19 As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey 19= 17 19 23 2680
                                            24 20 Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae 12 18 2570
                                            25 21 Mais Oui - The King Brothers 18 16 19 22 2070
                                            19 22 Angela Jones - Michael Cox 27 18 18 1360
                                            23 23 I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan 23 17 1060
                                            26 24 Listen Little Girl - Keith Kelly 16 900
                                            NEW 25 Walking To New Orleans - Fats Domino 22 720
                                            27 26 Train Of Love - Alma Cogan 26 400
                                            20 27 Three Steps To Heaven - Eddie Cochran 20 330
                                            NEW 28 Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston 27 320
                                            NEW 29 Apache - Bert Weedon 24 210
                                            28 30 Pistol Packin' Mama - Gene Vincent 25 180
                                            The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley 14
                                            Made You - Adam Faith 21
                                            Mama - Connie Francis 25
                                            Elvis Is Back (LP) - Elvis Presley 30 80
                                            Handy Man - Jimmy Jones 29 160
                                            He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves 26 150
                                            Mustapha - Bob Azzam 27 120
                                            Alley Oop - The Hollywood Argyles 28 90
                                            Because They're Young - James Darren 29 60
                                            Cathy's Clown - The Everly Brothers 30 30
                                            * This week the split sides would have affected NME's
                                            averaged chart position so an average was taken
                                            from the other 4 charts giving an average of 14.25
                                            to Adam Faith and 13.75 to Connie Francis
                                            and awarded to NME to give a more representative
                                            chart position for both sides together.
                                            The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                            The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                            • 29 Apache - Bert Weedon

                                              Never knew there was a second version of Apache.
                                              Just listened to it on iTunes - too slow for me. Not a patch on the original.

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                                              • Yeah it's not good Brian, why would anyone want to buy that version over The Shadows superior version.
                                                The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                                The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                                • Didn't Bert Weedon's version actually pre-date the Shadows?

                                                  Obviously inferior nonetheless...

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                                                  • Another cover of "Apache" by Jørgen Ingmann (nowhere near as good as the Shadows' version either) was the hit version in the US and Scandinavia. That version doesn't appear to have received a UK release at all, probably they realized it wouldn't sell. The Nordic countries probably went for Ingmann's version because he was Danish (and thus more of a local artist), no idea about the US...

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