The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 26th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 26th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	What Do You Want - Adam Faith					1	2	1	1	1	6375
2	2	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					2	1	1	2	2	6345
3	3	Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka					3	3	3	4	3	5975
5	4	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - The Avons					4	4	5	3	4	5815
4	5	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					5	8	4	5	5	5400
7	6	Snow Coach - Russ Conway					7	7	8	10	6	5050
12	7	More And More Party Pops - Russ Conway					6	5	16	7	9	4875
6	8	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					8	9	6	6	12	4790
18	9	Jingle Bell Rock - Max Bygraves					9	11	11	8	11	4435
11	10	Among My Souvenirs - Connie Francis					11	12	6	15	8	4400
21	11	Johnny Staccato Theme - Elmer Bernstein					10	6	18	17	10	4220
15	12	Some Kind-a Earthquake - Duane Eddy					12	15	9	16	7	4085
8	13	Rawhide - Frankie Laine					13	13	9	13	13	4010
10	14	Little White Bull - Tommy Steele					18	10	11	18	20	3520
14	15	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson					14=	19	20	12	14	3160
17	16	Little Donkey - The Beverley Sisters					16	21	17	9	16	3130
16	17	Piano Party - Winifred Atwell					14=	13		14	18	2895
20	18	Bad Boy - Marty Wilde					19=	18	13	19	20	2805
9	19	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					17	15	15	11		2660
13	20	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin						20	14	20		1915
22	21	Be My Guest - Fats Domino					19=	17			19	1770
NEW	22	Reveille Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					19=	23			15	1560
RE	23	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - Paul Evans and The Curls									16	900
29	24	Heartaches By The Number - Guy Mitchell						22				675
NEW	25	If You Were The Only Boy In The World - Stevie Marsh						24				525
19	26	Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale						25				450
27	27	Living Doll - Cliff Richard							19			420
25	28	San Miguel - Lonnie Donegan						26				375
30	29	We Got Love - Alma Cogan						27				300
30	29	I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Johnnie Ray						27				300
		But Not For Me - Ella Fitzgerald						29				150
		In The Mood - Ernie Fields						30				75
23		Mr Blue - Mike Preston
24		('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers
26		Little Donkey - Gracie Fields
28		Mary's Boy Child - Nina and Frederick
		* MM did not compile a chart this week so an average position was taken of likely chart position for this non compiled week by taking a mid point position between the chart for 19th December 1959 and the chart for 2nd January 1960 for MM in order to compile the Ultimate Averaged Chart.
		** Although the BBC compiled a chart this week it did not say how this was done. I assume it used the NME, Disc and RM chart only.

[MrTibbs]

Well here it is, the very last actual chart in the journey of the UAC.

After this the remainder of the 'bridging charts' to come to complete the set, listed in sequential order .

[Splodj]

I can see a no. 1 where the lyrics open with the title of the next no. 1.

[Metalweb]

1 What Do You Want - Adam Faith
2 What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates

Is this the first time that a song title has been included as part of another song?

"Which No.1 single included the complete title of the previous No.1 within its own title?" is an old favourite pub quiz question!

Another good one: "Which lyrics of which No.1 single open with the title of the previous No.1?" (clue - it was in 1975)

[MrTibbs]

I've fixed that above and on the spreadsheet thanks David.

Later today guys I will post the last chart for 1959, and then post the handful of 'bridging' charts to complete the set. The last chart for 1959 is itself a 'bridging' chart also for MM who did not compile that week.

[braindeadpj]

Gracie Fields - Little Donkey is a re-entry.

[braindeadpj]

1 What Do You Want - Adam Faith
2 What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates

Is this the first time that a song title has been included as part of another song?

I wonder how many singles were returned because they bought the wrong one due to the similarity with the song title? Presumably that would negate a sale?

[MrTibbs]

30 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Johnny Ray

Is this the same song as Bobbie Gentry's 1969 hit?

No Brian completely different song. The Bobbie Gentry song was a Bacharach/David composition from the musical Promises Promises.

[brian05]

30 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Johnny Ray

Is this the same song as Bobbie Gentry's 1969 hit?

[brian05]

1 What Do You Want - Adam Faith
2 What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates

Is this the first time that a song title has been included as part of another song?

[Splodj]

Yes, earlier in the thread we identified 11 NME joint number ones.

Disc and RM each have a record at 7 that is nowhere on the other.

[MrTibbs]

It's the famous 'What Do You Want...' dead heat on the NME chart. Elsewhere the clear winner is Adam Faith.

Yeah the way these two titles swopped and counter swopped the #1 position on the various charts suggests they were pretty close sales wise for weeks.

[Robbie]

It's the famous 'What Do You Want...' dead heat on the NME chart. Elsewhere the clear winner is Adam Faith.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 19th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 19th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	What Do You Want - Adam Faith					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					2	1	2	2	2	6310
4	3	Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka					3	3	3	3	3	6020
3	4	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					4	5	4	4	4	5730
5	5	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - The Avons					5	4	6	5	5	5630
6	6	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					6	6	5	6	6	5410
10	7	Snow Coach - Russ Conway					7	10	12	8	9	4595
12	8	Rawhide - Frankie Laine					8=	8	8	16	14	4225
8	9	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					8=	7	9	12	18	4205
13	10	Little White Bull - Tommy Steele					11	12	13	13	11	4065
11	11	Among My Souvenirs - Connie Francis					10	13	7	18	10	4035
18	12	More And More Party Pops - Russ Conway					13	8	20	15	11	4030
7	13	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					12	16	11	10	16	3670
9	14	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson					15	21	19	9	8	3540
23	15	Some Kind-a Earthquake - Duane Eddy					14	17	10		7	3225
19	16	Piano Party - Winifred Atwell					18	10		19	15	3075
16	17	Little Donkey - The Beverley Sisters					16	15	17	7		2770
NEW	18	Jingle Bell Rock - Max Bygraves					17	14	15	14		2600
21	19	Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale						18		20	19	2190
20	20	Bad Boy - Marty Wilde						20	14		20	2080
NEW	21	Johnny Staccato Theme - Elmer Bernstein					19=	19			13	1980
NEW	22	Be My Guest - Fats Domino						22			17	1515
17	23	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					19=	25		11		1350
15	24	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers						28	18	17		1310
27	25	San Miguel - Lonnie Donegan						23				600
RE	26	Little Donkey - Gracie Fields						24				525
28	27	Living Doll - Cliff Richard							16			525
NEW	28	Mary's Boy Child - Nina and Frederick						26				375
RE	29	Heartaches By The Number - Guy Mitchell						27				300
NEW	30	We Got Love - Alma Cogan						29				150
30	30	I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Johnny Ray						29				150
14		Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde
22		Poison Ivy - The Coasters
24		Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - Paul Evans and The Curls
25		One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine
26		The Three Bells - The Three Browns
28		Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson

[Robbie]

'I'll Never Fall In Love' will be Johnnie Ray's last chart entry. It's also one of his best singles. The track was sampled by Portishead in 1994 on the track 'Biscuit', from the album 'Dummy'.

[Blondini]

According to Discogs 'Ivy Will Cling' by Arnold Stang was the B-side, so I wonder if it was flipped.

his version (featuring The Sunshine Kids) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCQGn5quWw is better than the cloying version by Bernard Bresslaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnSZaCskFpA

[MrTibbs]

It's poignant that three of the most prominent male vocalists throughout the 1950's Frankie Laine, Guy Mitchell and Johnnie Ray all enjoy their very last Top 30 hit each will have at the very end of the decade and in the last month.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 12th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 12th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
2	1	What Do You Want - Adam Faith					1	1	1	2	1	6405
1	2	What Do You Want To MAKE Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					2	2	2	1	2	6280
3	3	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					3=	3	4	3	4	5925
4	4	Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka					3=	4	3	4	3	5900
8	5	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - The Avons					5	5	5	5	5	5590
5	6	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					6	6	6	6	6	5375
6	7	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					7	7	7	8	8	5055
7	8	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					8=	7	8	12	9	4780
10	9	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson					8=	9	10	10	7	4770
12	10	Snow Coach - Russ Conway					10	9	12	11	10	4475
27	11	Among My Souvenirs - Connie Francis					11	12	9	19	12	3875
13	12	Rawhide - Frankie Laine					12	13	13	17	11	3810
18	13	Little White Bull - Tommy Steele					15	11	17	20	13	3565
11	14	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					14	20	15	9	16	3275
9	15	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					17	19	16	14	17	3030
24	16	Little Donkey - The Beverley Sisters					13	14	11	13		2785
14	17	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					16	17	18	7		2585
20	18	More And More Party Pops - Russ Conway					18=	15	20		15	2545
15	19	Piano Party - Winifred Atwell					20	16		18	20	2370
25	20	Bad Boy - Marty Wilde						18	19		19	2115
19	21	Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale					18=	24	14	15		1840
16	22	Poison Ivy - The Coasters						23		16		1275
NEW	23	Some Kind-a Earthquake - Duane Eddy									14	1020
RE	24	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - Paul Evans and The Curls									18	780
17	25	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine						21				750
29	26	The Three Bells - The Browns						22				675
25	27	San Miguel - Lonnie Donegan						25				450
RE	28	Living Doll - Cliff Richard						26				375
21	28	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson						26				375
NEW	30	I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Johnnie Ray						28				225
		If You Were The Only Boy In The World - Stevie Marsh						29				150
		Mary's Boy Child - Harry Belafonte						30				75
30		Little Donkey - Gracie Fields						30				75
22		Heartaches By The Number - Guy Mitchell
23		Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan
28		Ivy Will Cling - Arnold Strang

[Splodj]

I believe it would be consistent to include 21s as it would be applied equally to any chart when they revealed it, and last time was applicable to Disc, but that is just my opinion and I can understand the other point of view.

According to Discogs 'Ivy Will Cling' by Arnold Stang was the B-side, so I wonder if it was flipped.

This is an interesting week at the top because the MM and Disc number one prevails, despite their lower weighting. Looks like.we are in for an epic battle between two songs, the title of one being the first four words of the other!

[braindeadpj]

But. Just because the omission demonstrated that RM had two records downgraded to #21 doesn't mean they should be included for knowing this position. It would be unfair to Disc and MM to amend the chart rule for one week to accommodate this.All three need to be treated equally. No record below 20 was considered for them at this time as #21 didnt exist for RM, MM, Disc at this time so consistency is important.

Agreed. I was just providing an indication of what it would've have looked like if it had been included. I don't think you should include any outliers that become apparent due to publishing errors. Consistency is important as you state.

[MrTibbs]

Thanks Splodj for confirming the originally posted number 20 positions. Assigning them both a position of 21 for RM would have placed Little Donkey on 1200 at 23 (instead of 28) and Heartaches By The Number on 975 at 25 (instead of 30).

But. Just because the omission demonstrated that RM had two records downgraded to #21 doesn't mean they should be included for knowing this position. It would be unfair to Disc and MM to amend the chart rule for one week to accommodate this.All three need to be treated equally. No record below 20 was considered for them at this time as #21 didnt exist for RM, MM, Disc and consistency is important.

[setg1]

The performer of "Ivy Will Cling" is Arnold Stang. I couldn't find a copy of the Record Mirror chart, but the record label had his name spelled correctly, at least. He was most famous for voicing Top Cat on the cartoon of the same name.

[braindeadpj]

Two new entries tied for the original number 20: Heartaches By The Number (Guy Mitchell) and Little Donkey (Beverly Sisters). The former is now 17, as you can see, and the latter fell away then reappeared on their 26-Dec chart.

Personally I think that when a (what turns out to be) 21 position has been published it might as well be included in a composite, as all information is useful. But we had this discussion last time it happened, and of course it doesn't make much difference.

Thanks Splodj for confirming the originally posted number 20 positions. Assigning them both a position of 21 for RM would have placed Little Donkey on 1200 at 23 (instead of 28) and Heartaches By The Number on 975 at 25 (instead of 30).

[Blondini]

I am all for posting ALL chart positions each week, however many there are. This is history !! We need to see each record that appeared on any dealer chart, and give it its historical recognition. There is precedent for this already. If yall will recall, the BMRB album chart varied pretty much each week over 1970: first as a Top 20, but then total chaos, ha: as a Top 58+/-, then 47, 59, 60+/-, then 70+/-, back down to a 57+/-, before settling on a Top 50 in Jan 1971. Eventually expanding more in the years to come.

But I do appreciate those who prefer a nice and tidy fixed number of positions each week. So for those that prefer a constant Top 50 (or whatever) each week, just pretend that's what you're looking at, ha. Lop off the lower positions in your mind, or, perhaps Brian can just separate the Top 50 from the all lower positions, a 2 part chart. This will satisfy everyone's needs, and keep all of history alive.

I'd agree with this.

[Splodj]

Just wondered what track was originally at 20 in the published RM chart for November 28th

Two new entries tied for the original number 20: Heartaches By The Number (Guy Mitchell) and Little Donkey (Beverly Sisters). The former is now 17, as you can see, and the latter fell away then reappeared on their 26-Dec chart.

Personally I think that when a (what turns out to be) 21 position has been published it might as well be included in a composite, as all information is useful. But we had this discussion last time it happened, and of course it doesn't make much difference.