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  • MrTibbs
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    It's all change for next week April 7th as Melody Maker's Top Twenty chart is added to the calculations albeit with a much smaller sample size of 20. Note too that from April 7th there will also be a slight adjustment in NME and RM sample sizes too.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 31st 1956

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 31st 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 24 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    2 1 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 1 2 2188
    1 2 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 2 1 2180
    5 3 Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell 3 3 2016
    4 4 Zambesi - Lou Busch 4 4 1904
    6 5 Only You - The Hilltoppers 5 6 1740
    3 6 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 7 5 1672
    7 7 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 6 7 1628
    8 8 See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 8 8 1456
    10 9 Chain Gang - Jimmy Young 9 9 1344
    13 10 Theme From 'The ThreePenny Opera' - Dick Hyman 10 12 1128
    11 11 The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson 11 11 1120
    9 12 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 12 10 1112
    15 13 Zambesi - Eddie Calvert 13 13 896
    20 14 Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Billy Vaughan 15 15 672
    16 15 Jimmy Unknown - Lita Roza 17 17 448
    14 16 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 14 420
    NEW 17 Willie Can - Alma Cogan 18 17 388
    NEW 18 I'm A Fool - Slim Whitman 14 364
    18 19 The Trouble With Harry - Alfi and Harry 16 300
    17 20 Seven Days - Anne Shelton 16 260
    12 21 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 19 120
    19 22 My September Love - David Whitfield 19 104
    NEW 23 Nothin' To Do - Michael Holliday 20 60
    NEW 24 A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer 20 52
    21 My September Love - Robert Earl
    22 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole
    23 Tumbling Tumbleweeds - Slim Whitman

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  • MrTibbs
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    It's a mystery to me how Winifred Atwell's horrendous tinny version of Poor People took off here while the vastly superior version by Les Baxter, a US #1, failed to even chart here. Sometimes there just ain't any justice !

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Sorry about later than usual chart posting as I was away seeing the new Bond movie. Well worth the wait it was. Great stuff !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 24th 1956

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 24th 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 23 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    1 1 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 1 1 2240
    4 2 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 2 2 2128
    3 3 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 3 4 1964
    2 4 Zambesi - Lou Busch 6 3 1836
    10 5 Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell 5 5 1792
    6 6 Only You - The Hilltoppers 4 7 1748
    5 7 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 8 6 1560
    7 8 See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 7 8 1516
    8 9 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 10 9 1284
    14 10 Chain Gang - Jimmy Young 9 11 1240
    11 11 The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson 11 11 1120
    9 12 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 13 10 1052
    19 13 Theme From 'The Three Penny Opera' - Dick Hyman 12 16 800
    12 14 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 14 17 628
    RE 15 Zambesi - Eddie Calvert 16 15 612
    24 16 Jimmy Unknown - Lita Roza 19 13 536
    NEW 17 Seven Days - Anne Shelton 14 364
    NEW 18 The Trouble With Harry - Alfi and Harry 15 360
    RE 19 My September Love - David Whitfield (A) 18 18 336
    NEW 20 Theme From 'The Three Penny opera' - Billy Vaughan 17 20 292
    18 21 My September Love - Robert Earl 19 104
    20 22 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 20 60
    16 23 Tumbling Tumbleweeds - Slim Whitman 20 52
    13 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra
    15 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford
    17 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell
    21 I Hear You Knocking - Gale Storm
    23 In Old Lisbon - Frank Chacksfield
    22 The Rudder And The Rock - David Whitfield (B)
    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah Robbie, it's certainly slightly better than his dreary Unchained Melody cover (for me Al Hibbler's and Roy Hamilton's versions were much better) or his Man From Laramie cover. Later in the year I'll never understand why his cover of More performed better than Perry Como's vastly superior version. For me personally Jimmy was at best an average singer who always recorded inferior cover versions.

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  • Robbie
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    I was expecting 'Chain Gang' by Jimmy Young to be an inspid cover of the Sam Cooke classic but it's not. Surprisingly it's a good song.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yip. It had amazing longevity.

  • kingofskiffle
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    Hehe, still bouncing in and out of the Top 10

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 17th 1956

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 17th 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 24 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    3 1 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 1 1 2240
    2 2 Zambesi - Lou Busch 2 2 2128
    1 3 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 3 3 2016
    4 4 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 4 4 1904
    5 5 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 5 5 1792
    6 6 Only You - The Hilltoppers 6 6 1680
    9 7 See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 7 8 1516
    7 8 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 8 9 1404
    11 9 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 9 10 1292
    20 10 Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell 12 7 1268
    13 11 The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson 10 13 1076
    10 12 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 11 15 912
    8 13 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 14 12 888
    20 14 Chain Gang - Jimmy Young 18 11 700
    12 15 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 13 480
    17 16 Tumbling Tumbleweeds - Slim Whitman 19 15 432
    18 17 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 17 18 396
    NEW 18 My September Love - Robert Earl 14 364
    NEW 19 Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Dick Hyman 15 360
    14 20 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 16 300
    NEW 21 I Hear You Knocking - Gale Storm 17 208
    NEW 22 The Rudder And The Rock - David Whitfield (B) 19 104
    16 23 In Old Lisbon - Frank Chacksfield 20 60
    15 24 Jimmy Unknown - Lita Roza 20 52
    19 Robin Hood - Dick James
    22 Zambesi - Eddie Calvert
    23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton
    25 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes
    24 My September Love - David Whitfield (A)

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  • MrTibbs
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    Good one lol .

  • brian05
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    21 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell

    That was a finger lickin' record!

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by Splodj View Post
    I believe Melody Maker are about to enter the fray. Although their first survey used only 19 stores, according to the Wiki article on their number ones, and it was not until the early 60s that they became the largest sampler.
    I bet there were 19 record shops very close to Melody Maker's offices. I wonder how many were used for the London area? Many people report that a large number of the shops taking part in all the surveys were London based during the 50's. And the list of chart shops was available to anyone who had the cash to buy it.
    Though I do not believe there was a lot of chart fiddling going on by any record companies at this point. The fact there are only a few charts around shows it would be pointless to fiddle these charts. But when more charts started entering clearly the market for hyping would open up. With only 60 shops to a chart for the UK, one part of the country could easily wipe out many of the tracks in any chart. And I bet some of the record company people were laughing at the charts at times, like the Cadbury Smash robots saying: "that record is number one!"

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  • MrTibbs
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    Originally posted by Splodj View Post
    I believe Melody Maker are about to enter the fray. Although their first survey used only 19 stores, according to the Wiki article on their number ones, and it was not until the early 60s that they became the largest sampler.
    Yeah Splodj Melody Maker will be joining on 7th April. Not only the Wiki article but Alan Smith's research also indicated a static level throughout the fifties so I will be using a figure of 20 stores for them throughout this decade as you will see soon. Also on 7th April I will be moving NME to 65 stores and RM to 60. I decided to keep NME slightly ahead on the basis it is likely they used a slightly bigger sample by now to compile a Top 30.

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  • Splodj
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    I believe Melody Maker are about to enter the fray. Although their first survey used only 19 stores, according to the Wiki article on their number ones, and it was not until the early 60s that they became the largest sampler.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 10th 1956

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 10th 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 25 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    1 1 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 1 1 2240
    2 2 Zambesi - Lou Busch 2 2 2128
    3 3 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 3 3 2016
    4 4 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 4 6 1800
    10 5 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 5 5 1792
    5 6 Only You - The Hilltoppers 6 4 1784
    6 7 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 7 7 1568
    7 8 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 8 9 1404
    NEW 9 See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 9 8 1396
    11 10 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 10 11 1180
    9 11 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 11 10 1172
    8 12 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 14 12 888
    20 13 The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson 12 15 852
    13 14 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 13 14 844
    16 15 Jimmy Unknown - Lita Roza 13 416
    19 16 In Old Lisbon - Frank Chacksfield 15 360
    27 17 Tumbling Tumbleweeds - Slim Whitman 20 16 320
    21 18 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 16 300
    15 19 Robin Hood - Dick James 17 240
    NEW 20 Chain Gang - Jimmy Young 17 208
    NEW 20 Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell 17 208
    NEW 22 Zambesi - Eddie Calvert 18 180
    RE 23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton 19 120
    23 24 My September Love - David Whitfield 20 20 112
    12 25 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 19 104
    14 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra
    17 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets
    17 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Tennessee Ernie Ford
    22 With Your Love - Robert Earl
    24 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets
    25 Young And Foolish - Dean Martin
    25 With Your Love - Malcolm Vaughan

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 3rd 1956

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 3rd 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 27 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    1 1 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 1 1 2240
    2 2 Zambesi - Lou Busch 2 2 2128
    3 3 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 3 3 2016
    7 4 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 4 5 1852
    6 5 Only You - The Hilltoppers 5 4 1844
    8 6 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 6 6 1680
    4 7 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 7 7 1568
    5 8 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 8 9 1404
    10 9 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 9 10 1292
    12 10 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 11 8 1276
    11 11 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 10 11 1180
    9 12 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 12 12 1008
    13 13 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 13 16 740
    15 14 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra 16 16 560
    18 15 Robin Hood - Dick James 14 420
    NEW 16 Jimmy Unknown - Lita Roza 13 416
    16 17 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 14 364
    14 17 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Tennessee Ernie Ford 14 364
    20 19 In Old Lisbon - Frank Chacksfield 15 360
    NEW 20 The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson 17 240
    RE 21 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 18 180
    17 22 With Your Love - Robert Earl 18 156
    NEW 23 My September Love - David Whitfield 19 120
    22 24 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 19 104
    24 25 Young And Foolish - Dean Martin 20 60
    RE 25 With Your Love - Malcolm Vaughan 20 60
    NEW 27 Tumbling Tumbleweeds - Slim Whitman 20 52
    19 Who's Sorry Now - Johnnie Ray
    21 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller
    23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton

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  • Graham76man
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    The multitude of titles all by the same artists is down to the way the industry worked at that time. Song writers took the work to Tin Pan Alley or the Brill Building in the USA and got the work published by them. It was then sent around to the Record Companies, who each had a team of A&R men (no women of course) for each label on the books. They would all listen to the songs presented to them and pick out the best. Each A&R man would assign the track to the artists on the books. The artists had to sing them of course. Few artists wrote their own material so they needed the songs to have hits. The Music Publishers would take the work around to each Record Company. Any songs from the USA would also be done like this. Generally the Labels tried to get an English artist to sing and record the US song before the one on the USA labels got issued in the UK. The largest company in the UK EMI had many labels under it's brand. Each with it's own A&R chap. Just because one A&R wanted one song for an artist, didn't stop another A&R chap selecting the same song. Nor did it stop each A&R chap picking the same song for different artists on the same label.
    It was the Beatles that ended the system, but for a while they (well Lennon & McCartney) were feeding the system.
    The system had two flaws. It didn't encourage groups. And in the end certain songwriters or teams held the monopoly on popular songs. I also think it didn't help instrumental hits as they are not common at all.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Originally posted by kingofskiffle View Post
    I kind of see why Cashbox printed a list of titles in the 1940's and combined all versions. Listen to the various versions and they all sound pretty identical .
    I think that is where The Sheet Music Chart still played an important role at this time as it was a better indicator of each songs comparative popularity as opposed to being split into versions.

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  • kingofskiffle
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    I kind of see why Cashbox printed a list of titles in the 1940's and combined all versions. Listen to the various versions and they all sound pretty identical (okay some do change it a little) but it's not as if one is, say, Jazz and another is, say, Punk (Yes Punk is the 70's but you get what I mean!). They all sound roughly the same. Is that good? I like the change that's now starting to happen (Lonnie, Elvis, Cliff etc ) of 'writing your own stuff' .

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  • Robbie
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    Very much a reflection of the era with multiple versions of songs and acts with multiple hits. If only unique songs by acts with only one charting hit were allowed on the chart there would barely be a top 10...

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  • MrTibbs
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    Originally posted by brian05 View Post
    11 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge
    23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton
    24 Young And Foolish - Dean Martin


    21 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller (A)
    ? Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Max Bygraves
    14 Ballad Of Davy Crocket - Tennessee Ernie Ford
    9 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes


    18 Robin Hood - Dick James
    ? Robin Hood - Gary Miller (B)

    I assume these are cover versions.
    Yeah Brian they are all just different versions of the same song.

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  • brian05
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    11 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge
    23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton
    24 Young And Foolish - Dean Martin


    21 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller (A)
    ? Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Max Bygraves
    14 Ballad Of Davy Crocket - Tennessee Ernie Ford
    9 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes


    18 Robin Hood - Dick James
    ? Robin Hood - Gary Miller (B)

    I assume these are cover versions.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending February 25th 1956

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 25th 1956 NME RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
    Week Week The Top 24 Singles Chart 20 Scored
    1 1 Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin 1 2 2188
    2 2 Zambesi - Lou Busch 2 1 2180
    5 3 It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers 3 3 2016
    4 4 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 4 4 1904
    3 5 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 5 5 1792
    7 6 Only You - The Hilltoppers 6 6 1680
    9 7 Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr 7 8 1516
    10 8 Band Of Gold - Don Cherry 8 7 1508
    6 9 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 9 10 1292
    12 10 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 11 11 1120
    15 11 Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge 12 12 1008
    13 12 Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King 15 9 984
    14 13 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 10 16 920
    11 14 Ballad Of Davy Crocket - Tennessee Ernie Ford 14 13 836
    8 15 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra 13 17 688
    17 16 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and The Comets 19 15 432
    NEW 17 With Your Love - Robert Earl 13 416
    19 18 Robin Hood - Dick James 16 300
    18 19 Who's Sorry Now - Johnnie Ray 17 240
    NEW 20 In Old Lisbon - Frank Chacksfield 18 180
    RE 21 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller (A) 18 156
    20 22 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 19 104
    RE 23 Young And Foolish - Ronnie Hilton 20 60
    NEW 24 Young And Foolish - Dean Martin 20 52
    21 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Max Bygraves
    22 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell
    16 Robin Hood - Gary Miller (B)

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by Robbie View Post
    'Memories Are Made Of This' by Dean Martin has had a very quick climb to the top. Was it featured in a film or just very popular at the time?
    It was just popular at that time, but also later on became used in many TV adverts, especially those involving cameras.

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  • Robbie
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    'Memories Are Made Of This' by Dean Martin has had a very quick climb to the top. Was it featured in a film or just very popular at the time?

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