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  • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
    Future turmoil would be reserved for the musical styles and acts that faded away in the wake of the success of The Beatles. Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't one vocal group in the top 20. A year later the look of the charts had changed completely.
    Yeah Robbie, Rock and Roll in the fifties although changing the face of music didn't have the same impact as what is about to befall in late 1963. The wind of change will completely alter the direction music will take within a few months. The difference in musical styles and tastes like you say will be like night and day between early 1963 and what is to come later in 1963 and then taking off completely in 1964.

    Overnight even the biggest names in popular music will suffer, the domination that Elvis, Cliff, The Shadows will evaporate and although they will continue to be popular they will never be the same force in music again as pre 1964.
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    • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
      George Martin's famous remark upon the recording of Please Please Me, "Congratulations gentlemen, you've just recorded your first number one" has a sad ring to it today.
      Ignore RR Splodj as the irrelevance it was. Please Please Me was a #1.
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      • Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post

        A sad ring for revisionist history, and music fans who don't know the facts, but a joy for actual truth! As true chartists, we are to FIGHT for truth and history, and bring it to the masses who've been indoctrinated with revisionism. I do it all the time, in the many forums and blogs I frequent, and some occasional one off visits. In book reviews on Amazon etc (which reminds me, I still need to respond to the new 'official' chart books of the 60s). I take every opportunity to tell the truth, and expose it to others. The responses I get are interesting, most times others are thankful for the hidden truth being revealed. Occasionally some are stubborn and refuse to acknowledge history and logic. A new line I'm going to start using: how can a company that did not exist prior to Feb 1969 decide in 2001 what was 'official' for 1963? It's ridiculous, and hilarious, and I do have fun explaining it all, ha... Never quit, never give in, never never never !!
        That's a battle I fight as well Robin. Here is an interesting fact on history being re-written. Back when the BBC stopped using their own chart on POTP and adopted that aberration the RR 'official' ha ha chart I wrote to the BBC to complain about this. I did get a polite but curt reply to the effect that, and get this, that they never had a chart of their own I must be mistaken, there had never been a BBC chart and there was no record of such in their archive.

        Effectively they paint brushed their own chart conveniently out of existence. I think 'The Official Charts Company' leaned on the BBC to adopt the RR chart retrospectively to give it credibility and gain wider acceptance.
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        • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
          The above chart covers the very day (4 September 1962) when the single version of 'Love Me Do' was recorded (the recording session included Ringo Starr on drums, the album version, with Andy White on drums, was recorded a week later on 11 September 1962). The recording followed three weeks of turmoil for The Beatles following the sacking of Pete Best.

          Future turmoil would be reserved for the musical styles and acts that faded away in the wake of the success of The Beatles. Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't one vocal group in the top 20. A year later the look of the charts had changed completely.
          You're not mistaken there are no groups in the 20 apart from the Shadows, who didn't sing. Why? Well the money you were paid for a single was 1d per copy per side. So it didn't make sense to have a group, which had to split the money between them. Even the Shadows started out as Cliff's backing group. With only a few Record Labels in charge, they were saying that groups were over. You can imagine loads of groups going to them with "Shadows" style tracks. And of course they said no, there was the Shadows and nobody would have bothered to create another act like them. Nearly all the chart acts were given songs to sing. The Music Publishers got the writers of songs to send into them. They picked out the best and submitted them to the A&R department of each Record Company. The A&R Men would then pick them for the artists, who sang and recorded them. The situation changed when George Martin wanted an act that would sell for the Parlophone Label. His previous efforts were comedy acts, such as Peter Sellers. So he gambled on the Beatles being enough to knock out the big guns of the rival label Columbia - all part of EMI. But the connection to George was only made when Brian Epstein went back to EMI and the boss of the Record Company to ask for a favour. As Epstein was considered one of the top Manger's of a Record Shop in the country and was that good with his predictions of what would sell and what would not, resulting in if Epstein ordered more copies of one single than the norm, the word went out to reps to push that record! So the boss of EMI would have asked George Martin to look at this band.
          Of course after there success all the other bands from Liverpool were signed up by Epstein and then of course Parolphone! And after that the other labels signed everyone else. Including the man from Decca, who signed the Rolling Stones. He wasn't going to make that mistake again!
          Of course the real success of the Beatles (mostly underplayed) were the songwriting of Lennon and McCartney. That helped put an end to the gravy train of the previous Music Publishers system. But for a while the song writing team helped many an act have a big hit with their songs, just like the old system. But the music was all based on black music from America and of course people like Buddy Holly.

          True story now, guy walks into a record shop and says "have you got Buddy Holly Sings The Beatles?".
          Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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          • You probably know that when they became famous Pete Best put out an album of his own stuff called 'Best of the Beatles', with a cover photo of the group when he was in it.

            Yes It seems that some time between the Decca audition and the EMI signing the Beatles decided that they wanted only self-composed singles. A key dynamic was Martin's response. He set the bar high by giving them How Do You Do It, which in his expert opinion was number one material, and challenged them to come up with something as good.

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            • Greetings Pop Pickers !

              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 15th 1962

              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 15th 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
              6 1 She's Not You - Elvis Presley* 1= 1 4 1 1 7770
              1 2 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 1= 2 1 2 2 7940
              4 3 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 3 3 3 5 3 7460
              5 4 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 5 6 2 6 5 7220
              2 5 Things - Bobby Darin 4 4 5 4 4 7180
              12 6 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 6 5 9 3 7 6620
              3 7 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 7 8 6 8 6 6490
              8 8 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 8 7 8 7 8 6340
              7 9 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 9 9 7 9 9 6160
              9 10 Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury 10 12 10 10 11 5480
              18 11 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 11= 11 14 11 13 5010
              10 12 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 11= 14 12 13 10 4980
              16 13 Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan 13 13 13 14 14 4780
              13 14 Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris 14 18 11 15 12 4610
              NEW 15 Telstar - The Tornados 15 10 18 12 17 4480
              11 16 I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles 16 20 16 17 16 3680
              19 17 Will I What - Mike Sarne 17 16 19 18 18 3560
              NEW 18 Sheila - Tommy Roe 19 15 21 16 24 3340
              15 19 So Do I - Kenny Ball 18 21 15 15 3040
              14 20 Let There Be Love - Nat King Cole with George Shearing 20 23 17 19 2540
              30 21 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 17 28 20 25 2180
              17 22 Vacation - Connie Francis 26 20 21 1910
              23 23 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 25 23 20 1690
              26 24 Dancin' Party - Chubby Checker 24 24 22 1600
              NEW 25 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 19 19 1560
              20 26 I'm Just A Baby - Louise Cordet 22 28 1080
              NEW 27 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 22 720
              29 28 Peter And The Wolf - The Clyde Valley Stompers 25 660
              NEW 29 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 26 23 640
              22 30 Little Miss Lonely - Helen Shapiro 27 26 590
              *3 Point Rule applied
              27 Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk 26 30 580
              Some People (EP) - Valerie Mountain and The Eagles 26 400
              25 Some People - Carol Deene 29 27 280
              Adios Amigo - Jim Reeves 29 29 220
              21 Don't Ever Change - The Crickets 29 220
              24 A Picture Of You - Joe Brown 30 110
              28 Roses Are Red - Bobby Vinton
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              • Surprisingly it's MM out of step this week with Elvis at #4 but #1 in all other 3 charts. Just weird.
                1962 comes alive with the utterly brilliant and captivating Telstar by The Tornados setting the chart alight. It will also become the UK's third US number one.
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                • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
                  You probably know that when they became famous Pete Best put out an album of his own stuff called 'Best of the Beatles', with a cover photo of the group when he was in it.

                  Yes It seems that some time between the Decca audition and the EMI signing the Beatles decided that they wanted only self-composed singles. A key dynamic was Martin's response. He set the bar high by giving them How Do You Do It, which in his expert opinion was number one material, and challenged them to come up with something as good.
                  Any sympathy anyone could have had for Pete Best was lost when he decided to join the Employment Service persecuting the unemployed!
                  Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                  • Here is yet another big omission for your attention on your copies of the BBC charts. Freddie and The Dreamers I'm Telling You Now, is completely missing from 10th August 1963. To me it looks like it should have been placed on the BBC chart as a new entry for that week as the points indicate such, but it was not. Then it is completely absent for the weeks 17th, 24th, and 31st on the transcript. It re-appears on 6th September.
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                    • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                      Here is yet another big omission for your attention on your copies of the BBC charts. Freddie and The Dreamers I'm Telling You Now, is completely missing from 10th August 1963. To me it looks like it should have been placed on the BBC chart as a new entry for that week as the points indicate such, but it was not. Then it is completely absent for the weeks 17th, 24th, and 31st on the transcript. It re-appears on 6th September.
                      Interesting. "I'm Telling You Now" is missing from the EARLY Dave/Trevor BBC files for Aug 1963, but shows up in the LATER file revisions, at #28, #12, #3, #2.

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                      • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                        Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 22nd 1962

                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 22nd 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
                        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
                        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                        1 1 She's Not You - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 1 1 8100
                        2 2 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 3 3 2 5 2 7600
                        6 3 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 2 2 4 2 3 7580
                        3 4 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 4 4 5 4 4 7180
                        4 5 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 5 7 3 3 6 7150
                        5 6 Things - Bobby Darin 6 5 6 6 5 6860
                        8 7 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 7 7 7 7 7 6480
                        15 8 Telstar - The Tornados 8 6 9 8 11 6170
                        9 9 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 10= 10 8 11 10 5840
                        11 10 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 9 9 11 9 9 5720
                        7 11 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 10= 11 10 10 8 5650
                        18 12 Sheila - Tommy Roe 12 14 15 12 12 4640
                        12 13 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 13 17 14 13 13 4430
                        14 14 Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Arm' / Some People - Jet Harris 15 15 12 20 15 4400
                        10 15 Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury 16 20 13 14 16 4160
                        13 16 Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan 14 16 16 15 14 4160
                        21 17 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 18 12 19 19 17 3860
                        17 18 Will I What - Mike Sarne 17 18 17 16 20 3660
                        27 19 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 19 13 24 18 23 3100
                        25 20 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 20 19 26 17 21 2510
                        19 21 So Do I - Kenny Ball 24 18 19 2350
                        29 22 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 20 23 18 2150
                        16 23 I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles 23 20 22 2120
                        23 24 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 26 22 25 1570
                        20 25 Let There Be Love - Nat King Cole with Gearge Shearing 28 21 26 1490
                        24 26 Dancin' Party - Chubby Checker 29 25 24 1030
                        NEW 27 It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee 22 28 810
                        NEW 28 It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King 25 480
                        22 29 Vacation - Connie Francis 27 30 470
                        26 30 I'm Just A Baby - Louise Cordet 28 330
                        B Your Tender Look - Joe Brown 27 320
                        Some People - Carol Deene 29 29 280
                        Adios Amigo - Jim Reeves 27 120
                        Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk 30 110
                        X Puff (Up In Smoke) - Kenny Lynch 30 80
                        X Cry Myself To Sleep - Del Shannon 30 80
                        28 Peter And The Wolf - The Clyde Valley Stompers
                        30 Little Miss Lonely - Helen Shapiro
                        B - Will Chart
                        X - Won't Chart
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                        • The chart is getting interesting. Tornados last week and Carole King this week. Perfect pop hits
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                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                            Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 29th 1962

                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 29th 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                            1 1 She's Not You - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 1 1 8100
                            3 2 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 2 3 2 2 2 7750
                            8 3 Telstar - The Tornados 3 2 3 3 3 7640
                            2 4 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 4 6 4 5 4 7080
                            4 5 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 5 4 9 4 5 6710
                            12 6 Sheila - Tommy Roe 7 5 6 8 10 6610
                            6 7 Things - Bobby Darin 6 7 7 6 6 6560
                            5 8 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 8 11 5 7 7 6380
                            7 9 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 9 9 8 10 9 6000
                            10 10 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 10 10 10 9 8 5780
                            17 11 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 11 8 12 15 13 5270
                            9 12 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 12 15 11 13 11 4980
                            19 13 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 13 12 16 11 12 4740
                            11 14 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 14 17 13 12 15 4530
                            22 15 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 15 14 19 14 14 4040
                            14 16 Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Arm' / Some People - Jet Harris 16 20 14 18 16 3850
                            13 17 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 17 22 15 16 17 3650
                            20 18 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 19 17 21 17 21 3220
                            18 19 Will I What - Mike Sarne 20= 19 20 20 19 3080
                            27 20 It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee 21 22 19 22 2660
                            28 21 It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King 18 12 25 24 2390
                            16 22 Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan 20= 24 18 18 2380
                            15 23 Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury 17 20 1870
                            24 24 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 27 24 23 1330
                            NEW 25 Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole 16 1200
                            RE 26 Some People - Carol Deene 25 26 28 1120
                            21 27 So Do I - Kenny Ball 23 25 1060
                            NEW 28 Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk 23 640
                            23 29 I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles 28 26 480
                            25 30 Let There Be Love - Nat King Cole with George Shearing 27 30 470
                            B Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter 26 400
                            Adios Amigo - Jim Reeves 29 29 280
                            X Cry Myself To Sleep - Del Shannon 28 240
                            26 Dancin' Party - Chubby Checker 30 27 230
                            B Blue Weekend - Karl Denver 29 160
                            X Puff (Up In Smoke) - Kenny Lynch 29 160
                            29 Vacation - Connie Francis
                            30 I'm Just A Baby - Louise Cordet
                            B - Will Chart
                            X - Won't Chart
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                            • After a decade of regular visits to the chart Nat King Cole debuts with his last chart hit, and one of his best remembered.

                              Mr. Acker Bilk after huge success with 'Stranger' decides to have another go with a smooth lush ballad and charts with 'Lonely'
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                              • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 6th 1962

                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 6th 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
                                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                3 1 Telstar - The Tornados 1 1 1 1 1 8100
                                1 2 She's Not You - Elvis Presley 2 2 2 2 2 7830
                                2 3 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 3 3 3 3 3 7560
                                6 4 Sheila - Tommy Roe 4 4 4 4 4 7290
                                11 5 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 5 6 5 5 5 6940
                                4 6 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 6 7 6 6 8 6610
                                8 7 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 7 9 7 8 7 6270
                                21 8 It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King 8 4 13 10 6 5940
                                10 9 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 10 10 8 12 10 5790
                                13 10 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 9 8 12 9 9 5690
                                5 11 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 11 14 10 7 11 5470
                                7 12 Things - Bobby Darin 12 11 11 13 12 5270
                                9 13 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 13 15 9 11 14 5210
                                15 14 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 14 12 15 14 13 4670
                                20 15 It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee 16 17 16 18 16 3870
                                12 16 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 15 23 14 15 15 3790
                                25 17 Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole 18 13 22 17 19 3490
                                18 18 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 19 18 19 20 18 3300
                                14 19 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 17 20 20 16 17 3260
                                16 20 Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris 21 22 17 24 20 2940
                                17 21 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 22 19 18 25 23 2930
                                19 22 Will I What - Mike Sarne 23 25 21 22 22 2300
                                28 23 Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk 20 16 29 19 27 2140
                                22 24 Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan 24 23 23 27 24 1930
                                26 25 Some People - Carol Deene 25 26 26 23 25 1530
                                24 26 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 26 27 24 30 21 1440
                                NEW 27 Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter 27 21 26 1050
                                NEW 28 Your Tender Look - Joe Brown 28 28 21 830
                                23 29 Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury 29 25 26 810
                                27 30 So Do I - Kenny Ball 27 440
                                X Hercules - Frankie Vaughan 27 320
                                Adios Amigo - Jim Reeves 30 29 28 310
                                X Puff (Up In Smoke) - Kenny Lynch 29 160
                                X Cry Myself To Sleep - Del Shannon 29 29 160
                                B Sherry - The Four Seasons 28 150
                                B Blue Weekend - Karl Denver 30 80
                                Dancin' Party - Chubby Checker 30 30
                                29 I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles
                                30 Let There Be Love - Nat King Cole with George Shearing
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                                • From this week you will note that DISC now also compile a Top 30, in line with this the BBC also start to compile a Top 30 although they would not refer to this for another five years continuing to only relate to a Top 20.
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                                  • Ah Telstar a lovely track and one of the few instrumental number one records.
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                                    • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                      Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 13th 1962

                                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 13th 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                      Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
                                      Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                      1 1 Telstar - The Tornados 1 1 1 1 1 8100
                                      4 2 Sheila - Tommy Roe 2 2 3 2 3 7690
                                      2 3 She's Not You - Elvis Presley 3= 5 2 3 5 7450
                                      5 4 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 3= 4 4 5 2 7300
                                      8 5 It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King 5 3 5 4 4 7260
                                      3 6 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 6 6 6 6 6 6750
                                      10 7 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 7 7 8 7 9 6310
                                      6 8 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 8 10 7 8 8 6160
                                      14 9 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 9 9 11 10 7 5730
                                      9 10 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 11 12 9 12 10 5520
                                      17 11 Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole 10 8 13 9 11 5520
                                      7 12 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 12 13 10 11 14 5260
                                      11 13 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 13 14 12 13 12 4920
                                      12 14 Things - Bobby Darin 14 18 14 14 13 4300
                                      15 15 It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee 15 16 16 15 15 4130
                                      13 16 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 16 17 15 17 16 4030
                                      27 17 Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter 17 11 24 16 22 3390
                                      18 18 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 18 22 17 18 17 3330
                                      23 19 Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk 19 15 22 19 20 3200
                                      16 20 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 20 20 18 20 23 3100
                                      19 21 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 21 26 21 22 19 2310
                                      20 22 Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Arm' / Some People - Jet Harris 22 29 20 24 18 2110
                                      NEW 23 Sherry - The Four Seasons 23 19 28 21 25 1970
                                      21 24 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 25 21 23 28 29 1890
                                      22 25 Will I What - Mike Sarne 27 19 29 27 1540
                                      26 26 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 26 24 25 30 24 1480
                                      NEW 27 Let's Dance - Chris Montez 24 23 23 21 1340
                                      25 28 Some People - Carol Deene 28= 26 25 28 940
                                      NEW 29 Devil Woman - Marty Robbins 28= 27 26 26 720
                                      NEW 30 Blue Weekend - Karl Denver 30 25 480
                                      24 Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan 27 440
                                      B If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin 28 30 270
                                      28 Your Tender Look - Joe Brown 29 220
                                      B Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson 27 200
                                      29 Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury 30 110
                                      B The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon 30 80
                                      30 So Do I - Kenny Ball
                                      B - Will Chart
                                      X - Won't Chart
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                                      • Although challenging for the top position Tommy Roe will have to wait another 6 years to finally achieve this.

                                        Two cracking new entries this week. Chris Montez with the timeless Let's Dance, and The Four Seasons with Sherry, loved it then and love it now. Bellissimo
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                                        • 'Let's Dance' is a classic. My mum owned the record and I recall hearing the song many times as a youngster. The song has a late 50s vibe / sound to it though, I keep forgetting its from 1962.

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                                          • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                                            'Let's Dance' is a classic. My mum owned the record and I recall hearing the song many times as a youngster. The song has a late 50s vibe / sound to it though, I keep forgetting its from 1962.
                                            I first heard 'Let's Dance' when it was a hit again in '72.

                                            It sounded great even then!

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                                            • Somebody this week [13/10/62] was making their debut in the RR chart @ #49 I'll wonder who that can be?

                                              In a week or 2 [or days when you're posted the UAC] I'll wonder where they'll get to?

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                                              • Hmmmmm I wonder too Woz lol. Or maybe I already know
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                                                • 1972 proved to be a good year for sixties re-issues, off the top of my head it also benefited Little Eva, Mary Wells, Procol Harum, The Drifters, B. Bumble and The Stingers, The Shangri Las, Roy C.
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                                                  • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                                    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 20th 1962

                                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 20th 1962 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 80 110 50 30 Points
                                                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                                    1 1 Telstar - The Tornados 1 1 1 1 1 8100
                                                    4 2 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva 2 2 3 2 2 7720
                                                    2 3 Sheila - Tommy Roe 3 4 2 3 4 7560
                                                    5 4 It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King 4 3 4 4 3 7400
                                                    3 5 She's Not You - Elvis Presley 5 7 5 5 6 6830
                                                    11 6 Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole 6 5 8 7 7 6530
                                                    7 7 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles 8 6 7 8 10 6420
                                                    6 8 It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard 9 9 6 9 9 6270
                                                    9 9 What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey 7 10 9 6 5 6130
                                                    17 10 Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter 10 8 11 10 11 5690
                                                    8 11 I Remember You - Frank Ifield 11 13 10 11 8 5440
                                                    10 12 Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith 12 14 12 12 12 4970
                                                    27 13 Let's Dance - Chris Montez 13 11 16 13 13 4690
                                                    15 14 It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee 16 17 13 15 17 4320
                                                    19 15 Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk 14 15 15 16 14 4300
                                                    23 16 Sherry - The Four Seasons 15 12 19 14 15 4170
                                                    12 17 Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland 19 20 14 19 20 3680
                                                    13 18 Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll 17 18 17 18 16 3680
                                                    NEW 19 The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon 18 16 23 17 19 3140
                                                    14 20 Things - Bobby Darin 20 22 18 21 18 3040
                                                    29 21 Devil Woman - Marty Robbins 21 19 24 20 21 2580
                                                    18 22 Reminiscing - Buddy Holly 22 26 20 22 22 2330
                                                    20 23 Guitar Tango - The Shadows 24 24 22 26 25 1980
                                                    16 24 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka 23 27 21 25 23 1960
                                                    NEW 25 If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin 25 21 29 27 26 1370
                                                    NEW 26 Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson 26 23 24 27 1110
                                                    25 27 Will I What - Mike Sarne 27 26 29 24 860
                                                    22 28 Theme From ' The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris 29 25 29 720
                                                    NEW 29 Bobby's Girl - Susan Maughan 28 28 23 640
                                                    NEW 30 The Pay-Off - Kenny Ball 30 25 480
                                                    21 Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone 27 440
                                                    26 Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice 28 30 360
                                                    28 Some People - Carol Deene 30 28 28 240
                                                    24 Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy 30 30 190
                                                    30 Blue Weekend - Karl Denver 29 160
                                                    X He Got What He Wanted - Little Richard 30 50
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