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  • braindeadpj
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    Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
    As several have pointed out already, it's amazing to see how RR lags the other charts. For the above chart, look at the big movers up, and the big movers down, a change of 6 or more ultimate points, and RR lags behind in every case, except for the split Yardbirds record. I trust Alan Smith when he says RR's sample period was Monday thru Saturday like all the other charts, but something was definitely amiss at RR...
    Supposedly there was no overlap between the stores that the 4 different chart compilers used. While it doesn't seem likely, what if the stores that RR used had a delayed delivery schedule so that they didn't get their new stock until later in the week? This could explain why they underrepresent new releases and to some extent other tracks if they'd run out and didn't get replacement stock until later in the week. Alternatively perhaps they were smaller, less frequently visited stores in the RR panel and so they are not as up to date. Of course we can speculate until the cows come home but unless there is an historical record of which shops were used by RR and how they differ from those the other chart compilers used, we may never know why the RR chart lags behind the others.....

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    As several have pointed out already, it's amazing to see how RR lags the other charts. For the above chart, look at the big movers up, and the big movers down, a change of 6 or more ultimate points, and RR lags behind in every case, except for the split Yardbirds record. I trust Alan Smith when he says RR's sample period was Monday thru Saturday like all the other charts, but something was definitely amiss at RR...

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 23rd October 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 23rd 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 Almost There - Andy Williams 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    2 3 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 3 3 4 3 3 17530
    5 4 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 4 4 3 5 4 17295
    4 5 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 5 5 5 4 5 16610
    13 6 Evil Hearted You / Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 6 10 6 6 9 14820
    14 7 It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 8 7 8 8 10 14635
    19 8 Yesterday Man - Chris Andrews 9 6 7 7 18 14505
    6 9 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 7 8 9 9 6 14425
    10 10 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 10 12 10 11 8 13005
    20 11 Here It Comes Again - The Fortunes 11 9 12 10 17 12440
    17 12 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 12 14 14 13 12 11065
    9 13 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 14 19 11 12 13 10830
    8 14 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 13 15 16 15 7 10590
    11 15 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 15 18 13 16 11 10300
    NEW 16 Yesterday - Matt Monro 16 11 15 14 26 10125
    7 17 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 17 17 18 17 14 8895
    16 18 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 18 16 17 18 19 8820
    12 19 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 19 20 20 19 15 7510
    15 20 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 20 23 19 20 16 6975
    NEW 21 Love Is Strange - The Everly Brothers 21 22 21 21 5300
    24 22 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 23 21 27 26 25 4010
    23 23 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 22 30 22 24 21 4000
    29 24 I Love You Yes I Do - The Merseybeats 24 26 25 22 3400
    18 25 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 25 23 20 2935
    21 26 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 26 26 29 30 22 2365
    NEW 27 Until It's Time For You To Go - The Four Pennies 27 24 23 2200
    27 28 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 30 24 28 2005
    25 29 That Means A Lot - P J Proby 29 26 29 1850
    22 30 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 29 28 23 1430
    Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 13
    Take A Heart - The Sorrows 28 30 25 24 1395
    But You're Mine - Sonny and Cher 25 1200
    I Know How It Feels To Be Loved - The Nashville Teens 28 600
    The Carnival Is Over - The Seekers 27 400
    Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 27 340
    When I Get Home - The Searchers 28 300
    Shame And Scandal In The Family - Lance Percival 30 250
    Help - The Beatles 29 170
    Laugh At Me - Sonny 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    There seemed to be no consistency. In October they split the Yardbirds yet in December they combined the Beatles double A sider. They probably knew the howls of protest that would come their way if the splitting prevented it reaching No 1.

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    On the couple of charts above the split sides did not affect the average chart position but in the next few weeks coming up the split did so I had to adapt to accommodate this so as not to disadvantage it's chart position.
    NME doing this is always problematic when you start making a chart from the all. I'm glad you found a way around this.
    On the 50's chart, it would have been easier if NME had listed the record shops like Record Mirror did. At least you can tell if it was the shops that were listing them. Or even if both sides were in the same shop's chart.

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  • MrTibbs
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    On the couple of charts above the split sides did not affect the average chart position but in the next few weeks coming up the split did so I had to adapt to accommodate this so as not to disadvantage it's chart position.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah the other papers had stopped listing sides separately since the late fifties but NME continued with this system past the mid sixties. Doing this and including LP's distorted the chart and in my view diminished it's credibility. It was almost a throwback to the days of the sheet music chart which identified individual songs that were selling and not records.

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  • BobPatience
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    Did NME separate sides, as with 'Evil Hearted You/Still I'm Sad' here?

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 16th October 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 16th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 2= 3 2 2 3 18130
    3 3 Almost There - Andy Williams 2= 2 3 3 2 18065
    5 4 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 4 4 4 4 5 17060
    4 5 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 5 5 5 5 4 16595
    9 6 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 6 6 6 6 9 15620
    7 7 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 8 8 8 8 7 14690
    6 8 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 7 7 10 7 6 14575
    11 9 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 9 14 7 9 11 13300
    15 10 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 11 11 9 10 13 13130
    10 11 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 10 12 11 11 8 12755
    8 12 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 12 13 12 12 10 12035
    23 13 Evil Hearted You / Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 14= 10 14 14 22 10915
    20 14 It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 16 9 17 15 21 10350
    12 15 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 13 19 13 13 12 10315
    16 16 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 14= 15 15 16 14 10145
    19 17 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 17 17 16 17 17 9140
    13 18 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 18 21 18 20 15 7710
    NEW 19 Yesterday Man - Chris Andrews 20 16 20 18 7050
    NEW 20 Here It Comes Again - The Fortunes 22 18 21 19 29 6470
    14 21 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 19 23 23 21 16 5875
    18 22 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 21 24 22 22 18 5655
    17 23 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 23 27 19 23 20 5535
    24 24 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 24 22 26 25 26 4075
    NEW 25 That Means A Lot - P J Proby 26 24 25 26 3400
    22 26 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 25 28 28 24 25 2560
    29 27 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 28 24 28 2005
    21 28 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 27 30 30 19 1370
    NEW 29 I Love You Yes I Do - The Merseybeats 29= 26 28 1300
    26 30 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 27 1000
    Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 20
    She Needs Love - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 29 27 900
    Help - The Beatles 29= 23 680
    Laugh At Me - Sonny 24 595
    Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 29 27 540
    Yesterday - Matt Monro 29 400
    Home Of The Brave - Jody Miller 30 200
    Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    It may well be the case that MM placed Penny Lane on top as like Robin said they had by far the biggest store sample, but maybe a likelier reason is that MM was the only paper to also sample Northern Ireland so it could have been this factor that made the difference. I can say now with certainty that Penny Lane won't make No 1 on the Ultimate Averaged Chart as the 3 others all had Release Me at No 1.

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  • braindeadpj
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    So unless NME, Disc & RR had different no.1s at the time, PL/SFF didn't make no.1 on the BBC chart and won't make no.1 on the Ultimate Averaged chart either.......

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    Well, Penny Lane/Strawberry FF was #1 on Melody Maker for 3 weeks, alas peaking at #2 on NME, Disc, & RR. But MM sampled the most record shops...

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by Metalweb View Post
    A case of the older record buyer striking back.....

    Same when Engelbert thwarted Penny Lane/ Strawberry Fields Forever a couple of years later....
    That's not really true, unless you want to extols the virtues of the Record Retailer chart. The Beatles did make the top after allowing a week for Engelbert. Though he did go on to sell over 2 million copies. By 1967 Woolies was in charge of who was top and none of the other charts used them. The heartbroken female market insured Tears sold millions.

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  • Metalweb
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    A case of the older record buyer striking back.....

    Same when Engelbert thwarted Penny Lane/ Strawberry Fields Forever a couple of years later....

    I've just realised (or remembered) that ABC quote Ken Dodd at the beginning of Tears Are Not Enough...
    Last edited by Metalweb; Thu August 13, 2020, 03:18.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yip. Tears was and is the biggest selling single in 1965. Over 1.6 million. The Beatles and Seekers both sold over a million too with their December hits but Dodd still outsold them both. How it managed to do so is one of life's great mysteries.

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  • BobPatience
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    According to the BBC, yes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10201932

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  • Robbie
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    ^
    Wasn't 'Tears' a million seller? Unless I'm getting 'Tears' mixed up with another song I think it may have been the biggest selling single of 1965, outselling anything even The Beatles released.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 9th October 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 9th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    10 3 Almost There - Andy Williams 3 3 3 3 5 17610
    5 4 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 4 5 4 4 4 16945
    8 5 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 6 6 5 6 6 16125
    2 6 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 5 4 9 5 3 15880
    6 7 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 7 7 7 7 7 15240
    4 8 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 8 8 6 8 8 15105
    20 9 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 9 9 8 9 12 13965
    7 10 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 10 10 11 10 9 13170
    13 11 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 11 11 12 11 11 12450
    12 12 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 12 14 10 12 13 12080
    9 13 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 13 13 14 13 14 11095
    11 14 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 14 12 18 14 10 10535
    22 15 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 15 15 15 15 19 9820
    19 16 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 16 18 16 16 15 9210
    16 17 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 17 21 13 19 18 8805
    15 18 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 18 20 17 21 16 7975
    24 19 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 19 16 22 17 22 7415
    NEW 20 It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 21 17 19 18 7100
    14 21 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 20 19 23 20 17 6690
    23 22 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 23 25 24 24 21 4500
    NEW 23 Evil Hearted You / Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 26 24 21 26 4400
    25 24 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 24 22 26 22 3950
    27 25 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 22 23 28 23 25 3660
    17 26 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 25 20 25 3350
    18 27 Laugh At Me - Sonny 27 25 27 20 2835
    30 28 California Girls - The Beach Boys 28= 28 30 28 28 1405
    NEW 29 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 27 30 30 1185
    21 30 Help - The Beatles 28= 29 23 1180
    Out Of Our Heads (LP) - The Rolling Stones 29 200
    Yesterday Man - Chris Andrews 26 1000
    Do You Believe In Magic - The Pack 27 800
    Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 30 24 595
    All I Really Want To Do - Cher 26 425
    That Means A Lot - P J Proby 29 400
    It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 27 340
    She Needs Love - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 30 200
    I Love You Yes I Do - The Merseybeats 30 200
    Try To Understand - Lulu 29 170




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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 2nd October 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 2nd 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 2 2 3 2 2 18165
    9 3 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 3 3 2 3 5 17860
    2 4 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 4= 5 5 6 3 16580
    7 5 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 6 6 4 4 6 16575
    4 6 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 4= 4 6 5 4 16545
    11 7 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 7 9 7 9 10 14385
    14 8 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 8= 7 12 7 11 13650
    5 9 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 8= 11 9 10 7 13640
    19 10 Almost There - Andy Williams 10 8 11 8 12 13515
    6 11 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 11 12 10 11 8 13005
    8 12 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 12 14 8 12 9 12920
    20 13 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 13 13 14 13 17 10840
    16 14 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 14 10 18 15 15 10410
    13 15 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 15 15 15 16 13 10230
    10 16 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 16 19 13 14 16 9875
    15 17 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 17 18 16 19 *1 8689
    12 18 Laugh At Me - Sonny 18 20 17 20 14 8245
    21 19 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 19 16 21 17 19 7920
    NEW 20 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 20 17 20 18 23 7530
    17 21 Help - The Beatles 21 22 19 21 18 6905
    27 22 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 22 23 27 22 22 4265
    28 23 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 23 29 22 24 26 3775
    NEW 24 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 26 21 26 26 3750
    NEW 25 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 28 26 24 25 3350
    18 26 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 24= 23 29 20 3135
    24 27 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 24= 24 29 23 27 3040
    22 28 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 27 25 28 21 2650
    NEW 29 She Needs Love - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 25 1200
    29 30 California Girls - The Beach Boys 28 28 1005
    It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 28 30 29 870
    That Means A Lot - P J Proby 27 800
    You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 29 27 800
    Try To Understand - Lulu 29 30 25 760
    What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 30 24 595
    It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 29 400
    All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 25th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 25th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 1 3 1 1 1 18650
    1 2 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    6 3 Tears - Ken Dodd 3 1 3 3 3 18180
    5 4 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 4 4 4 4 5 17060
    2 5 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 5 5 5 5 4 16595
    4 6 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 6 6 6 6 6 15875
    13 7 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 7 7 7 7 9 15070
    7 8 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 8 9 8 9 7 14390
    24 9 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 9 7 9 8 11 14300
    10 10 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 10 11 10 11 8 13205
    18 11 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 11 10 11 10 14 12745
    11 12 Laugh At Me - Sonny 12 12 12 12 10 12235
    14 13 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 13 14 13 14 12 11215
    20 14 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 16 15 14 16 16 10225
    12 15 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 15 15 15 15 *1 10160
    19 16 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 14 13 18 13 15 10010
    8 17 Help - The Beatles 17 18 17 17 13 9030
    9 18 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 18 19 16 18 17 8640
    27 19 Almost There - Andy Williams 19 17 19 19 18 8105
    21 20 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 20 21 21 20 23 6280
    26 21 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 21 20 23 21 22 5965
    17 22 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 22 25 20 22 19 5870
    15 23 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 23 27 22 26 20 4485
    NEW 24 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 24 23 24 23 30 4235
    23 25 It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 25 22 28 28 24 3445
    16 26 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 26 29 29 27 21 2150
    NEW 27 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 27 24 24 2100
    NEW 28 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 28 30 26 25 2050
    30 29 California Girls - The Beach Boys 29 25 26 1925
    29 30 Try To Understand - Lulu 30 27 25 1510
    Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 26 1000
    Paradise - Frank Ifield 30 30 28 605
    In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 28 600
    Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 27 340
    Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 30 200
    It's The Same Old Song - The Four Tops 29 200
    The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 29 170

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 18th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 18th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 2 2 3 2 2 18165
    4 3 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 3 3 2 3 3 18030
    3 4 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 4 4 4 4 4 17145
    10 5 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 5 6 5 5 5 16310
    13 6 Tears - Ken Dodd 6 5 6 6 7 15990
    6 7 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 7 7 8 7 6 15075
    5 8 Help - The Beatles 8 8 9 9 8 14255
    8 9 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 10 11 7 10 11 13800
    7 10 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 9 9 11 8 10 13485
    12 11 Laugh At Me - Sonny 11 10 10 11 9 13320
    17 12 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 12 12 14 13 *1 11380
    NEW 13 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 13= 13 12 12 18 11355
    16 14 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 13= 13 15 14 13 10830
    11 15 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 15 15 13 15 14 10745
    9 16 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 16 16 17 16 12 9615
    15 17 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 17 18 16 17 15 9110
    18 18 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 18 17 18 18 17 8540
    20 19 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 19 20 19 19 16 7675
    26 20 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 20 19 20 20 20 7185
    NEW 21 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 21 21 22 22 24 5745
    14 22 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 22 28 21 27 19 4520
    29 23 It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 23 27 23 24 22 4265
    NEW 24 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 25 21 26 23 4050
    25 25 Paradise - Frank Ifield 24 25 24 25 26 3975
    27 26 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 27 21 28 26 29 3420
    NEW 27 Almost There - Andy Williams 26 24 30 21 27 2990
    23 28 The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 28 27 28 23 1980
    NEW 29 Try To Understand - Lulu 30 26 29 29 1700
    NEW 30 California Girls - The Beach Boys 25 1500
    Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 29 21 850
    We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 25 510
    Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 29 30 500
    You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 28 255
    It's The Same Old Song - The Four Tops 30 200
    See My Friend - The Kinks 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    All the supportive comments made above from you guys make it all worthwhile and keep me motivated, and it's just as interesting to me too to compile and view this more accurate Ultimate Averaged chart reflecting the sixties as it should been . Thanks to you all for your continuing interest in this too.

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  • Graham76man
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    You are doing a great job Brian, don't worry about being appreciated, because you should know you are

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks Borobear. Appreciated and I'm glad ur enjoying this thread. Yeah I'll be keeping it going at least 1 new chart every day. My plan is 64 to 69, then 60 to 63, 56 to 59.

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  • Borobear
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    Would like to add my appreciation for this thread. May be quietly in the background but enjoying your efforts MrTibbs! Please keep it going

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