The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[braindeadpj]

I'd say miscalculate, cos if the BBC were trend tiebreaking at this stage they would have favoured Jack The Knife in the chart above. Interesting to see that Jack is climbing faster in NME than RM.

Is RM becoming slower in general? Lonnie enters highest in RM, but they have a few (e.g. China Tea, Forty Miles) falling more slowly.

Another possibility could be that a different person did it this week compared to last week. Though since there's an error in this week's too perhaps it is just a miscalculation! Lonely Boy should be at 5 (20) and Mona Lisa at 6 (23) on the BBC chart.

[Splodj]

Duane Eddy and Connie Francis (Lipstick) are actually equal on 'points' (39 'points' so equal 9) for the BBC chart. Did they split them because Duane Eddy was climbing while Connie Francis was falling or did they just miscalculate?

I'd say miscalculate, cos if the BBC were trend tiebreaking at this stage they would have favoured Jack The Knife in the chart above. Interesting to see that Jack is climbing faster in NME than RM.

Is RM becoming slower in general? Lonnie enters highest in RM, but they have a few (e.g. China Tea, Forty Miles) falling more slowly.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 3rd 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 3rd 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					1	1	1	1	1	6450
3	2	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					2	2	2	2	2	6235
2	3	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					3	3	3	3	3	6020
7	4	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					4	4	6	6	4	5645
4	5	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					6	7	4	4	8	5340
5	6	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					5	9	5	5	7	5170
10	7	Someone - Johnny Mathis					7	6	8	7	12	4900
6	8	China Tea - Russ Conway					8	8	12	12	5	4805
25	9	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					9=	5	7	15	11	4710
12	10	The Three Bells - The Browns					9=	10	10	8	10	4605
13	11	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					11	11	11	10	9	4465
9	12	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					12	18	9	11	6	4145
8	13	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					13	14	15	9	15	3785
18	14	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly					14	13	13	14	14	3765
11	15	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					15	16	16	13	17	3300
15	16	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					17	12	19	17	18	3255
16	17	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					18	15	17	20	16	3085
20	18	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					16	16	14		13	2800
17	19	Sal's Got A Sugar Lip - Lonnie Donegan					19	22		16	19	2070
14	20	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					20	21	18	19		1745
19	21	Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis						20		18		1410
21	22	I Know - Perry Como						19	20			1285
NEW	23	Hold Back Tomorrow - Miki and Griff with Lonnie Donegan						26			20	1035
28	24	Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						23				600
22	25	I'm Gonna Get Married - Lloyd Price						24				525
23	26	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin						25				450
RE	27	Just Keep It Up - Dee Clarke						26				375
27	28	Midnight Flyer - Nat King Cole						28				225
30	29	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon						29				150
RE	29	Walkin' Tall - Frankie Vaughan						29				150
24		Roulette - Russ Conway
26		Tallahassie Lassie / Give Give Give - Tommy Steele
29		A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde

[MrTibbs]

I've changed that to NEW David.

[braindeadpj]

Duane Eddy and Connie Francis (Lipstick) are actually equal on 'points' (39 'points' so equal 9) for the BBC chart. Did they split them because Duane Eddy was climbing while Connie Francis was falling or did they just miscalculate?

[braindeadpj]

Hope you enjoyed your musical weekend, Brian!
Honeymoon Song is not a re-entry on the UAC (but is on the NME chart). It would've been at 31 on both previous UAC's it could've featured on.

[MrTibbs]

Apart from NME putting Only Sixteen at number one later than the others a broad consensus has endured, but I believe there are about to be some disagreements at the top.

Yip ! a mega tussle for #1 is about to happen if not next week then the next

[Robbie]

Yes, there's a broad consensus at the top end of the charts. I'm assuming that this consensus is about to come to an end?

The UAC and the BBC chart are in almost complete agreement with only minor differences. Ricky Wilde wins out over Perry Como at #20 on the UAC thanks to Record Mirror.

[Splodj]

Apart from NME putting Only Sixteen at number one later than the others a broad consensus has endured, but I believe there are about to be some disagreements at the top.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 26th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 26th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					2	2	2	2	2	6235
3	3	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					3	3	3	3	3	6020
4	4	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					4	4	4	4	4	5805
6	5	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					5	5	5	5	6	5530
5	6	China Tea - Russ Conway					6	6	6	6	5	5435
13	7	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					7	7	9	7	8	5030
8	8	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					8	8	10	8	10	4755
10	9	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					9	11	11	10	7	4585
9	10	Someone - Johnny Mathis					11	9	8	11	12	4495
7	11	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					10	10	7	9	13	4485
19	12	The Three Bells - The Browns					12	11	12	14	11	4130
12	13	Just A Little Too Much . Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					13	13	15	12	9	4085
11	14	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					14	14	13	13	15	3675
17	15	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					15	15	20	15	16	3205
20	16	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					16	15	14	20	19	3010
15	17	Sal's Got A Sugar Lip - Lonnie Donegan					17	17	18	16	18	2960
18	18	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly					19	22	19	18	17	2520
21	19	Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis					18	18	17	17		2095
NEW	20	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde						21			14	1770
16	21	I Know - Perry Como					20	18	16			1500
23	22	I'm Gonna Get Married - Lloyd Price						23			20	1260
14	23	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin						18				975
22	24	Roulette - Russ Conway								19		540
NEW	25	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin						24				525
RE	26	Tallahassie Lassie / Give Give Give - Tommy Steele						25				450
25	27	Midnight Flyer - Nat King Cole						26				375
NEW	28	Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						27				300
28	29	A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde						28				225
28	30	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon						29				150
		The Way I Walk - Jack Scott						30				75
24		A Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley
26		Ragtime Cowboy Joe - The Chipmunks
27		Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone
28		Walkin' Tall - Frankie Vaughan

[MrTibbs]

Next posting Monday guys which gives you time to absorb the above three.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 19th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 19th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					2	2	2	2	2	6235
4	3	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					3=	3	4	4	3	5940
3	4	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					3=	4	3	3	4	5885
5	5	China Tea - Russ Conway					5	5	7	5	5	5520
10	6	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					6	6	5	6	6	5410
7	7	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					7	6	6	8	10	5045
9	8	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					8	9	9	7	9	4820
8	9	Someone - Johnny Mathis					9	8	8	9	12	4660
11	10	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					10	11	11	11	7	4540
6	11	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					11	10	10	10	11	4455
13	12	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					12	15	12	16	8	3920
14	13	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					13	13	13	14	13	3825
12	14	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin					14	12	14	12	19	3595
22	15	Sal's Got A Sugar Lip - Lonnie Donegan					15	14	17	17	16	3295
19	16	I Know - Perry Como					16	15	16	13		2535
20	17	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					18	17		19	17	2430
18	18	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly					17	22	15		14	2255
25	19	The Three Bells - The Browns					19=	19	18		18	2135
27	20	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					19=	18	19	18		1980
17	21	Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis						20			15	1785
15	22	Roulette - Russ Conway						20		15		1545
NEW	23	I'm Gonna Get Married - Lloyd Price						25			20	1110
16	24	A Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley						27		20		795
RE	25	Midnight Flyer - Nat King Cole						23				600
21	26	Ragtime Cowboy Joe - The Chipmunks							20			385
29	27	Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone						26				375
24	28	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon						28				225
NEW	28	Walkin' Tall - Frankie Vaughan						28				225
23	28	A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde						28				225
		Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson						24
26		Only Sixteen - Al Saxon
28		Just Keep It Up - Dee Clarke
30		Side Saddle - Russ Conway

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 12th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 12th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					2	2	2	2	2	6235
3	3	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					3	3	3	3	3	6020
10	4	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					4	4	5	4	5	5710
7	5	China Tea - Russ Conway					5	5	9	6	4	5465
5	6	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					6	8	4	7	6	5250
4	7	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					7	6	8	5	9	5170
8	8	Someone - Johnny Mathis					9=	6	10	8	11	4845
6	9	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					8	10	7	9	7	4845
11	10	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					9=	9	6	10	10	4730
15	11	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					11	12	11	12	8	4360
9	12	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin					12	11	12	11	13	4145
18	13	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					13	14	13		12	3045
NEW	14	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					14	15	15		15	2720
14	15	Roulette - Russ Conway					15	18		13	16	2685
12	16	A Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley					17	16		16	20	2460
25	17	Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis					16	20	14		14	2440
NEW	18	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly						21	18		18	1985
17	19	I Know - Perry Como					18	17		15		1770
RE	20	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra						19		19		1440
16	21	Ragtime Cowboy Joe - The Chipmunks						26	16	20		1395
NEW	22	Sal's Got A Sugar Lip - Lonnie Donegan					19	13				1350
13	23	A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde					20	24		14		1290
19	24	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon						25	19			870
NEW	25	The Three Bells - The Browns									17	840
24	26	Only Sixteen - Al Saxon						27	17			790
NEW	27	Brohen-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan						29		18		735
NEW	28	Just Keep It Up - Dee Clarke									19	720
20	29	Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone								17		630
23	30	Side Saddle - Russ Conway						23				600
		It's Late / Never Be Anyone Else But You - Ricky Nelson							20			385
28		Peter Gunn / Yep - Duane Eddy						27				300
		I'm Gonna Get Married - Lloyd Price						30				75
		Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson						22
21		Only Sixteen - Sam Cooke
22		Tallahassie Lassie / Give Give Give - Tommy Steele
26		The Wonder Of You - Ronnie Hilton
27		The Wonder Of You - Ray Petersen
29		Midnight Flyer - Nat King Cole
29		Remember When - The Platters

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 5th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 5th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
2	1	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					1	2	1	1	1	6375
1	2	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					2	1	2	2	2	6310
3	3	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					3	3	3	3	3	6020
5	4	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					4	4	5	5	4	5725
4	5	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					5	5	4	6	7	5460
7	6	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					7	5	6	7	6	5405
8	7	China Tea - Russ Conway					6	9	7	4	5	5265
11	8	Someone - Johnny Mathis					9	7	11	9	8	4870
6	9	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin					8	8	8	8	10	4825
14	10	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					10	10	10	11	9	4530
13	11	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					11	11	9	10	11	4415
9	12	A Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley					12	12	13	12	13	3990
10	13	A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde					13	13	12	14	17	3620
12	14	Roulette - Russ Conway					14	14	19	13	15	3465
NEW	15	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					15	16	14	20	12	3355
17	16	Ragtime Cowboy Joe - The Chipmunks					16	15	15	17	18	3170
15	17	I Know - Perry Como					17	18		15	16	2595
NEW	18	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					18	19	17		14	2410
16	19	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon					19	19	18	16		2030
18	20	Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone					20	25	16	18		1560
23	21	Only Sixteen - Sam Cooke						24			20	1185
19	22	Tallahassie Lassie / Give Give Give - Tommy Steele						17				1050
25	23	Side Saddle - Russ Conway						19				900
20	24	Only Sixteen - Al Saxon						25	20			835
NEW	25	Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis									19	720
27	26	The Wonder Of You - Ronnie Hilton						22				675
NEW	27	The Wonder Of You - Ray Petersen						23				600
26	28	Peter Gunn / Yep - Duane Eddy								19		540
NEW	29	Midnight Flyer - Nat King Cole						27				300
29	29	Remember When - The Platters						27				300
		Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						29				150
		Give Give Give - Tommy Steele						30
21		Goodbye Jimmy Goodbye - Ruby Murray
22		Personality - Anthony Newley
24		It's Late - Never Be Anyone Else But You - Ricky Nelson
28		Sorry (I Ran All The Way Home) - The Impalas
30		High Hopes - Frank Sinatra
		* The BBC have made an error this week based on points. Frankie Vaughan should be 6 and Russ Conway 7.

[MrTibbs]

Thanks guys. I will defo enjoy.

[Robbie]

^
It sounds like you're going to have a very busy (and musical) weekend. Enjoy!

[MrTibbs]

I am going to be busy over the weekend guys. I have got Diana Ross at the Ovo Hydro in Glasgow tomorrow night then off early on Saturday morning to London for the ABBA concert on Saturday afternoon and then Matthew Bourne's 'Carman' at The Royal Albert Hall on Saturday night. I won't be home till late Sunday night, so, tomorrow I will post the next three UAC so you don't miss out.

[brian05]

Now there's 3 versions of Only Sixteen.

[Splodj]

'Here Comes Summer' enters in all charts except Disc, highest in RM. No surprise there. Although at the end of August it would be more apt to say 'There Goes Summer'!

[MrTibbs]

Good agreement among the music papers at the top end of the chart.

As predicted RM is yet again ahead of the game with the #1 where the rest will follow.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 29th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 29th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					1	1	1	1	2	6390
5	2	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					2	2	2	2	1	6295
6	3	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					3	3	3	3	3	6020
3	4	The Battle Of New Orleans - Lonnie Donegan					4	4	4	4	5	5745
4	5	Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis					5	5	5	5	4	5650
2	6	Dream Lover - Bobby Darin					6	5	6	6	6	5450
9	7	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan					7	7	7	7	7	5160
22	8	China Tea - Russ Conway					8	8	8	10	8	4855
7	9	A Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley					9	10	9	8	9	4700
8	10	A Teenager In Love - Marty Wilde					10	12	11	9	11	4315
11	11	Someone - Johnny Mathis					11	10	12	13	10	4310
10	12	Roulette - Russ Conway					12	9	15	11	14	4130
21	13	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					13	13	10	19	16	3525
NEW	14	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					16	19	14		12	2635
12	15	I Know - Perry Como					14	14	17	12		2620
16	16	Tallahassie Lassie - Freddy Cannon					18	17		18	15	2595
14	17	Ragtime Cowboy Joe - The Chipmunks					15	15	13	16		2505
19	18	Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone					17	26	16	15	18	2400
17	19	Tallahassie Lassie / Give Give Give - Tommy Steele						16			20	1785
NEW	20	Only Sixteen - Al Saxon						24	20		17	1750
15	21	Goodbye Jimmy Goodbye - Ruby Murray						20	19	20		1740
13	22	Personality - Anthony Newley						21			19	1470
23	23	Only Sixteen - Sam Cooke					19	27			13	1380
18	24	It's Late / Never Be Anyone Else But You - Ricky Nelson						22		17		1305
24	25	Side Saddle - Russ Conway						18				975
20	26	Peter Gunn / Yep - Duane Eddy					20			14		765
26	27	The Wonder Of You - Ronnie Hilton						22				675
30	28	Sorry (I Ran All The Way Home) - The Impalas							18			455
NEW	29	Remember When - The Platters						25				450
NEW	30	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra						28				225
		Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						30				75
		Give Give Give - Tommy Steele						28
25		Take A Message To Mary - Poor Jenny - The Everly Brothers
27		Why Should I Be Lonely - Tony Brent
28		Personality - Lloyd Price
29		A Teenager In Love - Craig Douglas

[MrTibbs]

BTW i notice on some of the charts you have "Take a Message to Mary" and others you have "Take a Letter to Mary". I believe the former is the correct title.

Now that I have had time today I have gone back and amended the charts both here and on the original spreadsheets where it said 'Letter' to 'Message'.

[Splodj]

I have to admit I'm a sucker for The Chipmunks Ragtime Cowboy Joe

That speeded up singing by anthropomorphic critters had started here with 'Pinky and Perky'. Their first single 'Tom Dooley' was in 1958 but, despite generous television exposure, I don't think they had any hits.

[brian05]

19 Twixt Twelve And Twenty - Pat Boone

I guess he is really talking about teenagers.

Some on-line sources say the term "teenagers" was first used in the 1920s, others say 1940s or 1950s.
I prefer the year 1954 when term was used to market clothes to young people or adolescents.

[MrTibbs]

For my money Craig Douglas's version of Only Sixteen was actually the better version and RM is ahead of the game again like mentioned a few posts back.

11 years before Elvis rediscovers it Ronnie Hilton takes what is actually a good version of The Wonder Of You into the chart and Ray Peterson's original will not be far behind.

I have to admit I'm a sucker for The Chipmunks Ragtime Cowboy Joe