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  • MadNuno
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    Does anyone knows if today Madonna new live album is on TOP 100 Albums?

    I know it's not very likely since it was released only on digital sales and streams and she is an artist that started in the 80's (and in UK the live album isn't doing as well on iTunes, Apple Music and Spotify as in other countries European countries) but looking at so low sales numbers on the album charts inside the TOP 10 my hopes got higher that her album would chart even without a physical release.

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  • SerbianInLA
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    I have a bad feeling "Shivers" will somehow end up being #1 on Friday.

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  • adamf2thedeath
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    Jesy could be out top 5 by Friday at this rate!

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Blondini View Post
    OCC telling lies again to try and boost Elton

    Saying he broke a record Cliff Richard still holds

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...l+chart+record

    How can they forget about Cliff? Commom!
    Last edited by MadNuno; Wed October 13, 2021, 17:41.

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  • Blondini
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    OCC telling lies again to try and boost Elton

    Saying he broke a record Cliff Richard still holds

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...l+chart+record

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  • Blondini
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    Wednesday Top 40 Update
    Source: Music Week
    Missing Data: unknown

    Singles

    1 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (40,005)
    2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers (37,537)
    3 CKay - Love Nwantiti (Ah Ah Ah) (21,926)
    4 Jesy Nelson feat. Nicki Minaj - Boyz (20,001) *
    5 Glass Animals - Heat Waves (19,364)

    6-10

    11-20
    13 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da)
    18 Shouse - Love Tonight
    20 Ed Sheeran - Visiting Hours

    21-30
    21 The Anxiety (Willow & Tyler Cole) - Meet Me At Our Spot
    23 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days
    24 The Weeknd - Take My Breath
    26 David Guetta, MistaJam & John Newman - If You Really Love Me (How Will I Know?)
    27 Sleepy Hallow - 2055
    30 Jonasu - Black Magic

    31-40
    31 Ewan McVicar - Tell Me Something Good *
    35 Arz - Alone With You
    38 Clinton Kane - I Guess I'm In Love

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Albums

    1 Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under (34,860) *
    2 Drake - Certified Lover Boy (3,968)
    3 James Blake - Friends That Break Your Heart (3,711) *
    4 Olivia Rodrigo - Sour (3,643)
    5 Doja Cat - Planet Her (2,973)

    6-10
    6 Ed Sheeran - (Divide)
    8 Adele - 25 (2,775)
    9 ABBA - Gold: Greatest Hits
    10 Trivium - In The Court Of The Dragon *

    11-20
    11 Elton John - Diamonds
    13 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop
    14 Queen - Greatest Hits
    15 The Weeknd - The Highlights
    16 Adele - 21 (2,112) ^
    18 Justin Bieber - Justice ^
    19 Tom Grennan - Evering Road

    21-30
    21 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
    22 Don Toliver - Life Of A Don *
    24 We Are Scientists - Huffy *
    25 Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired To A Hellish Extent
    26 Simon and Garfunkel - Simon and Garfunkel's Greatest Hits ^
    27 Eminem - Curtain Call: The Hits
    28 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
    29 Oasis - Time Flies... 1994-2009
    30 Johnny Flynn & Robert Macfarlane - Lost In The Cedar Wood *

    31-40
    31 Michael Jackson - Number Ones
    32 Harry Styles - Fine Line
    35 Oasis - (What's Tthe Story) Morning Glory?
    37 Oh Wonder - 22 Break *
    38 Sam Fender - Hypersonic Missiles ^
    39 The Beatles - 1 ^
    40 Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water ^

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  • Blondini
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    Tuesday Top 40 Update
    Missing Data: Amazon Physical, Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube (all for Monday)

    Singles

    1 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (32.5k)
    2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers (29.5k)
    3 Jesy Nelson feat. Nicki Minaj - Boyz (16.7k) *
    4 CKay - Love Nwantiti (Ah Ah Ah) (16.5k)
    5 Glass Animals - Heat Waves (15.1k)

    6-10

    11-20
    14 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da)
    18 Shouse - Love Tonight
    20 Ed Sheeran - Visiting Hours

    21-30
    22 The Anxiety (Willow & Tyler Cole) - Meet Me At Our Spot
    23 The Weeknd - Take My Breath
    24 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days
    26 David Guetta, MistaJam & John Newman - If You Really Love Me (How Will I Know?)
    28 Sleepy Hallow - 2055
    29 Jonasu - Black Magic
    30 Ewan McVicar - Tell Me Something Good *

    31-40
    35 ARZ - Alone With You
    36 Clean Bandit & Topic feat. Wes Nelson - Drive
    38 Clinton Kane - I Guess I'm In Love

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Albums

    1 Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under (31.4k) *
    2 James Blake - Friends That Break Your Heart (3.4k) *
    3 Drake - Certified Lover Boy (3.0k)
    4 Olivia Rodrigo - Sour (2.8k)
    5 Doja Cat - Planet Her (2.3k)

    6-10
    7 Ed Sheeran - (Divide)
    8 ABBA - Gold: Greatest Hits
    9 Trivium - In the Court Of The Dragon *
    10 Adele - 25

    11-20
    11 Elton John - Diamonds
    13 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop
    14 Queen - Greatest Hits
    15 The Weeknd - The Highlights
    16 Adele - 21 ^
    17 Justin Bieber - Justice ^
    19 Tom Grennan - Evering Road
    20 Johnny Flynn & Robert Macfarlane - Lost In The Cedar Wood *

    21-30
    21 We Are Scientists - Huffy *
    22 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
    24 Simon and Garfunkel - Simon and Garfunkel's Greatest Hits ^
    25 Don Toliver - Life Of A Don *
    27 Oasis - Time Flies... 1994-2009
    28 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
    29 Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired To A Hellish Extent

    31-40
    31 Michael Jackson - Number Ones
    32 Oh Wonder - 22 Break *
    33 The Charlatans - The Charlatans ^
    34 Wayward Sons - Even Up The Score *
    36 Sault - Nine *
    38 T'Pau - Essential T'Pau *
    Last edited by Blondini; Tue October 12, 2021, 17:17.

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  • Blondini
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    Originally posted by Blondini View Post
    The Hurting is a new vinyl release - from their old label. I don't know if TFF purposely revealed the new single the day before on purpose or if it's just coincidence.
    Can't find any info on the Simon & Garfunkel albums - the last vinyl releases for both were at the start of the year.
    Oh, i should have realised! The Concert in Central Park was broadcast on BBC 2 on Saturday and both albums are top 3 on ITunes.

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  • Blondini
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    Originally posted by Blondini View Post
    The Hurting is a new vinyl release - from their old label. I don't know if TFF purposely revealed the new single the day before on purpose or if it's just coincidence.
    Can't find any info on the Simon & Garfunkel albums - the last vinyl releases for both were at the start of the year.
    Oh, i should have realised! The Concert in Central Park was broadcast on BBC 2 on Saturday and both albums are top 3 on ITunes.

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  • jszmiles
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    I wonder if Adele can score something like this:

    #1. 30
    #2. 25
    #3. 21
    #4. 19

    when she drops new album. it's pretty likely

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  • Blondini
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    The Hurting is a new vinyl release - from their old label. I don't know if TFF purposely revealed the new single the day before on purpose or if it's just coincidence.
    Can't find any info on the Simon & Garfunkel albums - the last vinyl releases for both were at the start of the year.
    Last edited by Blondini; Mon October 11, 2021, 17:07.

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  • Blondini
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    Official Singles / Albums Chart Update
    Source: OCC
    Missing Data: Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube (all for Sunday)

    Top 100 Singles

    1 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (25.3k)
    2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers (22.2k)
    3 CKay - Love Nwantiti (Ah Ah Ah) (11.8k)
    4 Jesy Nelson feat. Nicki Minaj - Boyz (11.6k) *
    5 Glass Animals - Heat Waves (11.0k)

    6-10

    11-20
    11 Coldplay & BTS - My Universe
    14 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da)
    18 Shouse - Love Tonight
    20 Ed Sheeran - Visiting Hours

    21-30
    21 The Weeknd - Take My Breath
    23 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days
    25 David Guetta, MistaJam & John Newman - If You Really Love Me (How Will I Know?)
    27 Jonasu - Black Magic
    29 Ewan McVicar - Tell Me Something Good *

    31-40
    34 Clean Bandit & Topic feat. Wes Nelson - Drive
    38 Clinton Kane - I Guess I'm In Love

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Top 100 Albums

    1 Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under (24.5k) *
    2 Drake - Certified Lover Boy (2.2k)
    3 Olivia Rodrigo - Sour (2.0k - 10 ahead)
    4 Trivium - In The Court Of The Dragon (2.0k) *
    5 James Blake - Friends That Break Your Heart (1.9k) *

    6-10
    7 ABBA - Gold: Greatest Hits
    8 Ed Sheeran - (Divide)
    9 Doja Cat - Planet Her
    10 Elton John - Diamonds

    11-20
    11 Johnny Flynn & Robert Macfarlane - Lost In The Cedar Wood *
    12 Adele - 25
    13 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop
    15 We Are Scientists - Huffy *
    16 Queen - Greatest Hits
    17 The Charlatans - The Charlatans ^
    18 Tom Grennan - Evering Road
    20 Sault - Nine *

    21-30
    22 Oh Wonder - 22 Break *
    23 Wayward Sons - Even Up The Score *
    24 Justin Bieber - Justice ^
    25 Adele - 21 ^
    29 Simon & Garfunkel - Greatest Hits ^

    31-40
    31 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
    32 T'Pau - Essential T'Pau *
    38 Sam Fender - Hypersonic Missiles ^
    39 Iron Maiden - Senjutsu

    Click on the above relevant links.

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  • Blondini
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    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...-under__34207/


    11 October 2021
    Sam Fender heading for second Number 1 on Official Albums Chart with Seventeen Going Under

    The Geordie singer-songwriter is outselling the rest of the Top 10 combined, with other new entries from Trivium and James Blake.
    By George Griffiths
    Sam Fender is heading for his second Number 1 on the Official Albums Chart with his second record Seventeen Going Under.

    The Geordie singer-songwriter currently has a healthy lead of 20,000 chart sales over his nearest rival Drake on today’s Official Chart Update, and is currently outperforming the rest of the Top 10 combined.



    Sam’s first album, 2019’s Hypersonic Missiles – which has boosted up to Number 38 midweek - debuted at the top spot following his win of the BRITs Critics Choice Award that same year. View Sam Fender’s Official UK Chart history here.
    MORE: Official Top 40 biggest albums of 2021 so far


    Meanwhile, US heavy metal band Trivium are eyeing up their highest-ever peak on the Official Albums Chart as their tenth album In The Court of the Dragon starts at Number 3 – on track to be their second UK Top 10 album. Electronic artist James Blake could also net a career-best chart peak with Friends That Break Your Heart at Number 5.

    Outside the Top 10, Johnny Flynn’s fifth album Lost In Cedar Wood is tracking to debut at Number 11, while in the run-up to her comeback this Friday, Adele’s 25 is so far up 15 places to Number 12, while 21 leaps 23 spots to Number 25.

    New York rock band We Are Scientists’ seventh album Huffy looks set for a new entry at Number 15, while The Charlatan’s self-titled album opens at Number 17 thanks to its first vinyl pressing in 20 years. At Number 20, mysterious music collective Sault’s fifth record Rise could re-enter the chart and out-peak its Number 99 debut [following the CD and vinyl release] . Only available for 99 days, the album disappeared from [digital] sale October 2.

    Alt-pop duo Oh Wonder could secure a third Top 40 release with 22 Break at Number 22, Wayward Sons’ Even Up The Score eyes a new entry at Number 23, and Justin Bieber’s Justice flies up to Number 24 midweek thanks to a new ‘complete’ version featuring three extra tracks.

    Simon & Garfunkel’s Greatest Hits could be heading back to the Top 40 at Number 29, and finally, English rock group T’Pau’s greatest hits collection The Essential [Essential T'Pau] tracks for a Number 32 debut.

    This week's Top 100 Official Albums Chart Update in full
    Check out the Official Singles Chart Update Top 100


    Picture credit: Jack Whitefield



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  • Blondini
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    Official First Look Chart Update
    Source: OCC / Radio 1

    1 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart
    2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers
    3 Jesy Nelson feat. Nicki Minaj - Boyz *
    4 CKay - Love Nwantiti (Ah Ah Ah)
    5 Glass Animals - Heat Waves
    6 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits
    7 Central Cee - Obsessed With You
    8 Joel Corry & Jax Jones feat. Charli XCX & Saweetie - Out Out
    9 Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - Industry Baby
    10 Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever

    11 Coldplay & BTS - My Universe
    12 Drake feat. Lil Baby - Girls Want Girls
    13 Lil Nas X - That's What I Want
    14 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da)
    15 The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay
    16 Doja Cat - Woman
    17 Anne-Marie & Little Mix - Kiss My (Uh Oh)
    18 Ed Sheeran - Visiting Hours
    19 Digga D & ArrDee - Wasted
    20 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days

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  • Blondini
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    There was that soundtrack / companion album for U2's Rattle and Hum film which featured a handful of older classic tracks by other artists but was still classed as a U2 album.

    And recently the soundtrack to the Amy documentary was credited to Amy Winehouse even though the film's composer Antonio Pinto had several (short) pieces on it.

    In terms of Bond soundtracks they usually have the theme included but the composer is usually involved, just not in this case.

    I do recall the (Bram Stoker's) Dracula soundtrack being classed as a compilation because of one Annie Lennox song. Which always seemed unfair to me.
    Last edited by Blondini; Sat October 9, 2021, 13:05.

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Robbie View Post

    The Evita OST album charted on the main chart under the previous album rules first drawn up in 1988. It should have been treated as a Various Artists compilation album under those rules and so (again in my opinion) was placed on the wrong chart. It was no different to The Bodyguard album which is largely seen as a Whitney Houston album yet that was relegated to the Compilation Albums chart. I suppose the one difference is that all the songs on the Evita album are sung by the artists in the movie unlike The Bodyguard. Maybe that was the deciding factor back then.

    If rules did change that must be the reason as the only 4 tracks that do not name Madonna on "Evita" do name "the cast" and Madonna is part of "the cast" meaning Madonna that by those rules Madonna was on all the 19 single disc version of the album (the one released and that charted in UK) meaning she was in 100% of the tracks.

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  • Robbie
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    Originally posted by Blondini View Post

    It's a Hans Zimmer album. It only has 1 other track by Billie Eilish. As long as the vast majority of an album is by 1 artist it can qualify.
    The rules are actually more convoluted than that. The same artist has to be appear on 100% of the tracks which has led to some albums being placed on the Compilation Albums chart when at one time the album would have been classed as an artis talbum.

    From the chart rules (part in bold is the emphasis by the OCC)

    3. Compilation Album Chart Includes original soundtracks unless all tracks feature the same artist, cast recordings, multi orchestral recordings, and “1 artist per side” albums (if not new).
    4. A Cast Recording is defined as a recording featuring the voice(s) of an artist or artists performing a role for which they were first cast for the
    purposes of a stage, film or TV production
    5. Artist Album Chart includes single artist compilations, single orchestra recordings and albums that feature the same performing artist on 100%
    of tracks
    6. Where a cast recording is produced and marketed as an artist studio album, a label may request that the cast recording appear in the Official
    Artist Albums Chart. The decision shall strictly subject to Official Charts and/or CSC approval.


    My interpretation is the same artist must appear on 100% of all tracks. But it seems like the OCC don't always apply this rule. For 'A Star Is Born' I would have placed that on the main albums chart as regardless of who the singer is on each track it is a film project where each track was recorded solely for the film / soundtrack. Or at least I think this is the case.

    Under the above rules to 007 album should be treated as a compilation as one track (the title track) appears to have no involvement by Hans Zimmer.

    The Evita OST album charted on the main chart under the previous album rules first drawn up in 1988. It should have been treated as a Various Artists compilation album under those rules and so (again in my opinion) was placed on the wrong chart. It was no different to The Bodyguard album which is largely seen as a Whitney Houston album yet that was relegated to the Compilation Albums chart. I suppose the one difference is that all the songs on the Evita album are sung by the artists in the movie unlike The Bodyguard. Maybe that was the deciding factor back then.



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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Fame Romance View Post
    Then how is it that A Star Is Born only charts on Compilations when Bradley Cooper only has 4 solo songs and Lady Gaga sings in the rest of the songs?
    What are you talking about? "The Cast" is the one credited in more songs (that means "Various Artists") on none is credited in at least half the songs on the full version:

    The Cast - 15
    Lady Gaga - 14 (6 with Bradley Cooper)
    Bradley Cooper - 11 (6 with Lady Gaga)

    Plus on the 34 tracks version Lady Gaga is only credited on 14 songs. She needed to have credit on at least 18 songs to be considered her album.

    https://www.amazon.com/Star-Born-Sou.../dp/B07GWJMW22

    On the 19 tracks version:

    Lady Gaga - 14 tracks (7 with Bradley Cooper) / 7 as solo artist
    Bradley Cooper - 11 Tracks ( 7 with Lady Gaga) / 4 as solo artist

    As both artists are in over 50% of the tracks and this is an OST it's considered "various artists" or "Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper - as a group" as more than 1 artist are in over 50% of the tracks. She would need to be on at least 10 songs as a SOLO ARTIST to be considered her album and she is only on 7 tracks (or Bradley Cooper to be in only 9 or less tracks).

    https://www.amazon.com/Star-Born-Sou...c%2C267&sr=1-3

    Just to compare so you can understand better how this works.

    The "EVITA" OST is considered by Madonna as on the full version (US version) she is on 20 songs (from a total 31 songs) and on the single disc version (the UK version) she is in 15 songs (out of 19 tracks) and the following artis to be featured most is Antonio Banderes in 9 songs (Madonna have 6 songs alone as she also have songs with Jonathan Pryce and Jimmy Nail). As Madonna is the only artist on over 50% of the songs it's considered her album. If Antonio Banderas was in 10 tracks instead of just 9 the album would not be considered a Madonna album as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evita_(soundtrack)

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  • Fame Romance
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    Originally posted by MadNuno View Post

    Exactly! As long as 1 artist is featured on over 50% of the tracks it can chart on the main albums chart as it's considered that artist album and not a compilation.
    The Compilation charts is for albums credited to "various artists".
    Then how is it that A Star Is Born only charts on Compilations when Bradley Cooper only has 4 solo songs and Lady Gaga sings in the rest of the songs?

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  • Gambo
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    ^ Okay, provided it i) isn't just another tired mash-up of two Elton oldies with one chorus sung by Ed, and ii) it keeps whatever pastry-based bollocks LadBaby may have up his sleeve off the official Xmas No 1!

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  • Robbie
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    Apparently Elton John and Ed Sheeran are releasing a Christmas song! At Christmas time, of course. It looks like Ed is wanting to stay at number 1 for most of the rest of the year...

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Blondini View Post

    It's a Hans Zimmer album. It only has 1 other track by Billie Eilish. As long as the vast majority of an album is by 1 artist it can qualify.
    Exactly! As long as 1 artist is featured on over 50% of the tracks it can chart on the main albums chart as it's considered that artist album and not a compilation.
    The Compilation charts is for albums credited to "various artists".

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  • Blondini
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    Originally posted by chosensparkles View Post
    why is the 007 soundtrack able to chart on the actual main chart? Blondini
    It's a Hans Zimmer album. It only has 1 other track by Billie Eilish. As long as the vast majority of an album is by 1 artist it can qualify.

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  • braindeadpj
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    Originally posted by chosensparkles View Post
    why is the 007 soundtrack able to chart on the actual main chart? Blondini
    Probably because its credited to one artist, Hans Zimmer, rather than various artists?

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  • chosensparkles
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    why is the 007 soundtrack able to chart on the actual main chart? Blondini

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