UK OCC Charts: Midweeks Thread 2022

[Blondini]

What has it come to that we're getting updates from that bastion of "truth" The Sun?

You have to scroll down the page to find it https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...hologram-show/

[braindeadpj]

So the standard version of Midnight has 13 tracks but the 3AM version has 20 so how are they calculating the streaming? Are they just using the standard 13 tracks so streams of track 1 and 2 are averaged to that of 3-13 or are they including the top 3 bonus tracks from the 3AM version? This will push the average down to some extent as tracks 14-16 (the top 3 from the 3AM version) are going to be less streamed as they are not on the standard album?

Also since The Car only has 10 tracks, Midnight automatically gets up to 30% more streams (and possibly 60% more if they include 16 tracks). Of course the benefit is likely to be less than that as not all tracks are likely to be streamed the same.

[Robbie]

So the standard version of Midnight has 13 tracks but the 3AM version has 20 so how are they calculating the streaming? Are they just using the standard 13 tracks so streams of track 1 and 2 are averaged to that of 3-13 or are they including the top 3 bonus tracks from the 3AM version? This will push the average down to some extent as tracks 14-16 (the top 3 from the 3AM version) are going to be less streamed as they are not on the standard album?

Also since The Car only has 10 tracks, Midnight automatically gets up to 30% more streams (and possibly 60% more if they include 16 tracks). Of course the benefit is likely to be less than that as not all tracks are likely to be streamed the same.

The chart rule about qualifying tracks when there is both a standard version and deluxe version is:

In all cases, qualifying tracks will be those from any registered album format track listing. In the event where a release has both standard and deluxe versions, the track listings will be aggregated and de-duplicated to create the qualifying track listing.

The top 2 tracks will then be "neutralised" to the level of the average of the next 14 highest streamed tracks.

'The Car' potentially loses out on streams as it has less tracks to attract overall album streaming sales. On the other hand the top 2 tracks could potentially be "neutralised" to a lesser extent. Again, it depends how quick streaming totals drop away once you get to the 11th most streamed track on Taylor's album.

I do hate that word "neutralised". However it's what appears in the OCC Album Chart Rules book.

[braindeadpj]

Thanks Robbie.
I agree neutralized is not really the right word. Reduced or modified would be better.

[Blondini]

So they already do reduce the streams of the top 2 tracks which in most cases are tracks 1 and 2 on an album for the albums chart. So this works for the albums chart but they should reduce the streams of the first 2 tracks on the singles chart, as well. Because those tracks tend to be the highest and are not always justified.

Lavender Haze is track 1 on Midnights and is 2nd highest purely because it's the first track. You can see why the Lana track is 3rd highest despite being lower down the album. In the case of Arctics the first 2 tracks are singles so it's clear why they'd be high (as is track 3 Anti-Hero on Midnights). Not every artist puts their best tracks at the front of an album, though so sometimes the casual stream effect looks odd on the singles chart.

[InFamous]

So they already do reduce the streams of the top 2 tracks which in most cases are tracks 1 and 2 on an album for the albums chart. So this works for the albums chart but they should reduce the streams of the first 2 tracks on the singles chart, as well. Because those tracks tend to be the highest and are not always justified.

Lavender Haze is track 1 on Midnights and is 2nd highest purely because it's the first track. You can see why the Lana track is 3rd highest despite being lower down the album. In the case of Arctics the first 2 tracks are singles so it's clear why they'd be high (as is track 3 Anti-Hero on Midnights). Not every artist puts their best tracks at the front of an album, though so sometimes the casual stream effect looks odd on the singles chart.

Well you cannot really make a generalization like that. In the case of Adele and 30 wasn't it I drink Wine and Oh my god that also made the top five.. and those tracks are way down the tracklist!

[InFamous]

It's not even a new thing in terms of marketing. It used to be the singles chart where you had 3 cds and other formats all to hype up the debut chart position or the second week chart position or a continuous stream of remixes to keep something in the chart. It just transferred to albums because that's the only real physical market left. It's true that Arctics are less popular in the States so it wouldn't be a battle for her there. As you say - in these times when everyone is strapped for cash only the hardcore can afford every single format. I doubt that is many people in these days. And her fans aren't all kids like BTS fans who feel they must have them all.

Those figures are so huge that you can see that it's more than just a format hyping issue. And watch it in week 2 and 3 - she will probably still outlast The Car because her album is more accessible than theirs. Baffles the heck out of me that people that would never buy lounge music go crazy for this stuff just because it's them. Where are all the these people when Jarvis does a lounge album? Where is all the airplay when Jarvis does a lounge album?

You really underestinate the Swifties - Images of mass buying were all over Twitter when Folklore dropped - a lot of people bought all the CDS and later bought more signed copied and vinyl.

[rocker99]

How many copies have the a-ha True North album sold in the middle of the week?

[Blondini]

You really underestinate the Swifties - Images of mass buying were all over Twitter when Folklore dropped - a lot of people bought all the CDS and later bought more signed copied and vinyl.

i did see some of that but i still doubt that it's a majority of fans.

[Blondini]

How many copies have the a-ha True North album sold in the middle of the week?

we (may) find out later today at about 5:45
they weren't reported on Monday but it was less than Kylie's 5,000 plus

[Blondini]

How many copies have the a-ha True North album sold in the middle of the week?

NEWS FROM BUZZJACK:

Kylie remains at 5 in the UK with 6209 sales, A-Ha at 6 with 4808, Dry Cleaning with 4032, 1975 with 4019, Ed Sheeran at 9 with 3832 and Harry Styles has popped back into the Ten as he always does with 3555. Carly Rae has departed the Top Ten.

no source was posted - they also have Tuesday's figures update

Kylie Still #5 on tuesday midweeks

6123 sold, A-Ha at 6 on 4481, Carly 3362

[Blondini]

Wednesday Top 40 Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data: Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube (all for Tuesday)

Singles

1 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero (48,410) *
2 Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy (33,405)
3 Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze (32,965) *
4 Taylor Swift feat. Lana Del Rey - Snow On The Beach (31,165) *
5 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) (14,648)

6-10

11-20
19 Arctic Monkeys - I Ain't Quite Where I Think I Am *
20 Arctic Monkeys - Body Paint ^

21-30
23 Arctic Monkeys - There'd Better Be A Mirrorball ^
28 Dean Lewis - How Do I Say Goodbye?

31-40
32 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look *
37 Joel Corry & Tom Grennan - Lionheart (Fearless) *

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Albums

1 Taylor Swift - Midnights (173,623) *
2 Arctic Monkeys - The Car (113,227) *
3 Loyle Carner - Hugo (14,263) *
4 Simple Minds - Direction Of The Heart (8,568) *
5 Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess (FKA Kylie Minogue) (6,209) ^

6-10
6 A-ha - True North (4,808) *
7 Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork (4.032) *

11-20
11 Carly Rae Jepsen - The Loneliest Time *
12 Andrea, Matteo & Virginia Bocelli - A Family Christmas *
16 Architects - The Classic Symptoms Of A Broken Spirit *

21-30
22 Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxymore: Homage To Pierre Henry *
26 Queens Of The Stone Age - Queens Of The Stone Age *
28 Hugh Cornwell - Moments Of Madness *

31-40

[Robbie]

I wonder if Taylor can pass 200K? Arctic Monkeys seem to be heading for around 118k to 120k.

[Blondini]

It is quite a feat that Kylie could end up with a new peak purely through a vinyl reissue (albeit with low sales).

[SerbianInLA]

She could easily pull 140-150k pure sales. And 1-1.1 in the US. Wow! That's already over 1.2 million in pure sales from just two countries.

[braindeadpj]

According to Buzzjack's 'sales' breakdown is:


Taylor
70,761 CDs
58,300 vinyl
1,620 cassettes
6,465 downloads
36,477 streaming
so 130,681 of physical product (137,146 of real sales)

Arctic Monkeys
57,229 CDs
36,634 vinyl
9,700 cassette
2,384 downloads
7,280 streaming
so 103,563 of physical product (105,947 of real sales)

[Blondini]

Official First Look Chart: Update
Source: OCC

1 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero
2 Rihanna - Lift Me Up *
3 Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy
4 Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me
5 Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz - Miss You
6 Stormzy - Hide & Seek
7 Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze
8 Anne-Marie & Aitch - Psycho
9 Beyoncé - Cuff It
10 Venbee & Goddard - Messy In Heaven

11 OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried
12 Chris Brown - Under The Influence
13 Taylor Swift feat. Lana Del Rey - Snow On the Beach
14 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue)
15 SZA - Shirt *
16 Luude & Mattafix - Big City Life
17 Steve Lacy - Bad Habit
18 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look
19 Rema (& Selena Gomez) - Calm Down
20 Tom Odell - Another Love

[Gambo]

Blondini sorry could you remind me why Tom Odell's 'Another Love' is doing so well all over again please?

[Blondini]

Blondini sorry could you remind me why Tom Odell's 'Another Love' is doing so well all over again please?

begins with t and ends in ok

[Gambo]

^ Oh okay; should've known I s'pose! Not part of my world and am happy to let it pass me by. Ta for the reply.

[Blondini]

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...album-__37700/

31 October 2022
The Beatles’ Revolver re-release challenges Taylor Swift’s Midnights in race for UK’s Number 1 album

A very special re-release of The Fab Four's most sonically innovative record is looking to displace the record-breaking Midnights. Can it?
By George Griffiths
After a record-breaking arrival last week which saw her claim an Official Chart Double, Taylor Swift has found herself up against none other than The Beatles in the race to keep Midnights at Number 1.

As Midnights lead track Anti-Hero leads the Official Singles Chart charge, could Taylor make it another week at the top of both the Albums and Singles charts? She has some tough competition, from one record-breaking Official Charts act to another!

At Number 2, this week’s highest possible re-entry could come courtesy of The Beatles, with a special new Deluxe re-issue of Revolver. The seventh studio album from the Fab Four is notable for its innovative and avant-garde production style, which is considered a turning point in the Beatles’ career. Revolver originally debuted at Number 1 upon its 1966 release.

Michael Ball & Alfie Boe team up once again for Together In Vegas (3), which could become their fourth consecutive Top 3 album as a duo. They’re followed by acclaimed British DJ Fred again.. who, after producing hits for the likes of Ed Sheeran and Stormzy, is close to netting his first UK Top 10 album with Actual Life 3 (4), and British rock band Massive Wagons with Triggered (5).
MORE: The Beatles' Official Charts history in full


Further new entries inside the Top 10 look set to include Foo Fighters’ new greatest hits collection The Essential (6), Tom Odell’s fifth album Best Day Of My Life (7), Paul Weller’s ambitious triple-album Will Of The People (8) and Blue’s Heart & Soul (10), which could become the boyband’s first UK Top 10 album since 2004.

Just outside the Top 10, rising British pop star Dylan could make a massive debut with her first major-label mixtape The Greatest Thing I’ll Never Learn (11), following a string of viral singles. Hereford rockers The Hunna also issue their self-titled fourth record, aiming for their first Top 40 entry in four years (13).

Further down, Canadian-American rock band Palaye Royale head towards their first Official Charts entry with Fever Dream (24), the vinyl release of Calvin Harris’ Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 2 could see it return to the Top 40 (29), and Garbage celebrate their longevity with greatest hits record Anthology (31).

And finally, spooky season may be coming to an end today, but The Damned team up with Hammer Horror for live album A Night Of A Thousand Vampires at Number 35 midweek.

Article Image: Shutterstock/Evening News
See the full Official Albums Chart Update Top 100 here from 5.45pm

[Blondini]

^ Paul Weller's "ambitious triple album" is just a compilation box set. Doh!

[Blondini]

Official Singles / Albums Chart Update
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

Top 100 Singles

1 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero (20,720)
2 Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy (less than 400 behind #1)
3 Rihanna - Lift Me Up (17,310) *
4 Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me
5 Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz - Miss You

6-10
8 Beyoncé - Cuff It
9 Anne-Marie & Aitch - Psycho
10 Venbee & Goddard - Messy In Heaven

11-20
11 Chris Brown - Under The Influence
17 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look
18 SZA - Shirt *

21-30
26 Dermot Kennedy - Kiss Me
27 Dean Lewis - How Do I Say Goodbye?

31-40
31 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
32 Juice Wrld - In My Head *
33 Joel Corry & Tom Grennan - Lionheart (Fearless)
34 Jin - The Astronaut *
36 Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash ^
37 Fred again.. - Delilah (Pull Me Out Of This) *
40 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Top 100 Albums

1 Taylor Swift - Midnights (16,082)
2 The Beatles - Revolver ^
3 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together In Vegas *
4 Fred Again.. - Actual Life 3 (January 1 - September 9 2022) *
5 Massive Wagons - Triggered! *

6-10
6 Foo Fighters - The Essential Foo Fighters *
7 Tom Odell - Best Day Of My Life *
8 Paul Weller - Will Of The People [box set] *
10 Blue - Heart & Soul

11-20
11 Dylan - The Greatest Thing I’ll Never Learn [mixtape] *
13 The Hunna - The Hunna *

21-30
24 Palaye Royale - Fever Dream *
29 Calvin Harris - Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 2 ^

31-40
31 Garbage - Anthology *
35 The Damned - A Night Of A Thousand Vampires (Live In London) *

Click on the above relevant links.

[Blondini]

there's no more sales coming in. If anyone else sees them on BuzzJack or Haven feel free to post. I'll edit them in later.

[braindeadpj]

So there's 3 Halloween tracks between 31 and 40. We'll probably see them rise on Wednesday's midweeks, but they'll probably have all leftt the top 40 by Friday....