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  • THE RECORD MIRROR CHARTS - Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, and Extended

    Introduction To The Record Mirror Charts - Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, and Extended

    Some of you may remember I posted a project similar to above a few years back.
    However, useful as it was at the time it was very limited in its scope. It was very basic in concept using just a notebook and calculator, it used the Inverse Points system, it was only 20 to 30 places deep, and only covered the period of August 1954 until October 1955.

    It was always my goal to improve on this but it was put on hold because of the Covid pandemic and my inability to travel to London to obtain the dealer charts printed in Record Mirror housed within The British Library. So I worked on and posted The UAC instead.
    I was able at the beginning of August to finally get to London and after many, many hours of research at The British Library I now have copies of all the available Dealer Return Charts published in Record Mirror from June 1954 until Record Mirror stopped compiling their own chart in March 1962 and took the RR chart. Over 1,500 part pages of chart data.
    During this exercise I was also able to copy all Record Mirror's Album Charts too from 1956 until March 1962.

    Background

    I can say from the outset you will see differences between this new Record Mirror chart and that published weekly by Record Mirror themselves from January 1955 (See Methodology below). Back in the day Record Mirror like most other music papers of the time saw their chart as more a novelty feature as opposed to the serious reporting on the music business.
    Chart compilation would almost certainly be time limited as deadlines had to be met and bearing in mind the chart was a novelty. It was doubtless good for the time but almost certainly not a totally robust chart. The amount of dealer returns varied week to week but one interesting article I saw in the paper stated that ' dealer charts received were rotated every week' for use in compiling the Record Mirror chart'. I have to state nothing was ever stated in the paper at any time as to how many dealer charts were used on a weekly basis.

    Methodology

    This time I am not using Inverse Points but am using Gallup Average Sales Data which more accurately determines the average
    relationship in sales between chart positions for compiling the chart. ( see further on for more data on this).
    Each weekly chart will contain every record that appears on a dealer chart for that week.
    This will be a record chart this time around, no split sides where both sides appear on the chart, as these will be combined under the one record heading. The Gallup system allows for both sets of points to be added together to give a joint position.
    The Gallup system is also much better at breaking ties due to using decimal points and although these are many in the lower half of the
    chart this is because the records concerned are each only on one chart at the same position.
    The chart will contain Albums and EP's, coloured in Red and Blue respectively for ease of identification.
    All Dealer Charts published are used for chart compilation and these do fluctuate from week to week. The only exception to this is that
    'specialist jazz charts' are not included but will be only if the that chart contains 'pop' records also.
    Given the lengthy compilation time these charts will need, posting will be probably be twice weekly where there are lots of dealer returns.
    The chart will be accurately compiled using the above methodology to deliver what I believe to be a credible chart much, much bigger than any other chart of the times.

    Last and Not Least

    I must thank those named below who enthusiastically offered to help with this formidable project from the outset by bringing their own specialist knowledge and time to the table to create this credible reliable chart.
    So, Robin, Lonnie, David and Kjell must get credit too for this project seeing the light of day. Without their valuable assistance, input, and specialist knowledge we would not have the robust chart methodology and spreadsheet that are central to drive this project forward.

    We did not reach these decisions lightly. We spent weeks looking at best methodology for compilation, Inverse Points, Chartwatch Points Related sales System, BARS BMRB information etc etc. We compiled trial charts evaluating each outcome to see what produced the best result time and time again and then finally decided The Gallup Average Sales Data method produced the best result. This used Gallup Sales data over a 51 week period looking at the differentials in sales patterns between each chart position to give a good sound workable average. We debated on how to manage ties, split positions, and came to a satisfactory conclusion we all agreed on.

    I believe the results will speak for themselves.

    Enjoy a new Record Mirror chart, the way it should have been compiled and be amazed at the artists and songs appearing on the chart for the first time, losing the status of being 'one hit wonders', and adding more hits to their roster previously uncredited.
    The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

    The Way It Was Meant To Be

  • #2
    OK, time to get down to the business end of these important early charts. These will come as a revelation to many pop music purists and chart fanatics who love everything charts. It is fair to remind everyone that these charts from June 1954 to March 1961 will take a few years to complete and post due to the work involved in compiling them. It is a major undertaking.

    Initially I'll post a few charts fairly quickly as there are only a mere handful of dealers returns to consider but once we get to the substantial numbers of dealer returns you may find at most 3 posted per week but I will endeavour to keep these moving along as quickly as I can without compromising the integrity and accuracy of each chart.

    So here they are starting in June 1954 with the very first copy of Record Mirror. The British Library are missing 3 copies of Record Mirror from July 17th 1954 to July 31st. But from August 7th 1954 the library held every paper published all the way to its chart end in March 1962.
    I was therefore going to start at August 7th 1954 but then thought you might like to see the full historical picture of these earlier weeks as well.

    These early months only have a handful of dealer returns but history is history and you will want the full picture from the beginning and then watch the chart blossom and fill out month by month.

    So, enjoy these early months, view them a bit 'tongue in cheek, as they have limited dealer input resulting in some strange records appearing on these early charts. But charts they are, growing in stature as the decade progresses.

    For those of you who love all the statistics I have included the points, how many dealer charts each record places on and even the position and points it would have obtained if the Inverse Points system had been used to give a comparison.

    I present for your viewing pleasure The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated Re-Worked and Extended.

    Brian
    The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

    The Way It Was Meant To Be

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    • #3
      Greetings Pop Pickers

      The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated Re-Worked Extended

      Chart For Week Ending Saturday 19th June 1954

      POS RECORD MIRROR CHART Re-Calculated Total Total Inv Inv
      THIS TOP 23 (Based On 3 Dealers Returns) Gallup Dealer Points Points
      WEEK (Chart For Week Ending Saturday 19th June 1954) Points Charts Rank Scored
      1 Secret Love - Doris Day 14.99 2 1 17
      2 Such A Night - Johnnie Ray 14.51 3 1 17
      3 Idle Gossip - Perry Como 11.49 2 3 16
      4 Wanted - Al Martino 10.00 1 5 10
      4 Beethoven's 5th Symphony (LP)- Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra 10.00 1 5 10
      6 Young At Heart - Frank Sinatra 8.94 2 4 12
      7 The Happy Wanderer - The Obernkirchen Childrens Choir 8.04 2 7 9
      8 Blue Pacific Blues - Rita Hayworth 7.04 1 7 9
      8 Never Never Land - Frank Weir 7.04 1 7 9
      10 Cross Over The Bridge - Patti Page 6.35 2 13 5
      11 Wanted - Perry Como 5.75 1 10 8
      12 I Get So Lonely - The Four Knights 4.42 1 11 6
      12 Friends And Neighbours - Billy Cotton 4.42 1 11 6
      14 Little Things Mean A Lot - Kitty Kallen 3.95 1 13 5
      14 Midnight - Eddie Calvert 3.95 1 13 5
      16 I Speak To The Stars - Doris Day 3.59 1 16 4
      16 The Little Shoemaker - Petula Clark 3.59 1 16 4
      16 Music From 'Wedding In Paris' (LP) - OLC 3.59 1 16 4
      19 Make Love To Me - Alma Cogan 3.29 1 19 3
      19 The Glenn Miller Story (LP) - Glenn Miller 3.29 1 19 3
      21 Sleeping Beauty - Nat King Cole 2.83 1 21 1
      21 Someone Else's Roses - Joan Regan 2.83 1 21 1
      21 Changing Partners - Kay Starr 2.83 1 21 1
      The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

      The Way It Was Meant To Be

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      • #4
        This very first chart is a perfect example of why the Gallup system works best. There is a joint #1 using Inverse Points but using a sales proportion with decimal points between chart positions splits them. We have a result
        The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

        The Way It Was Meant To Be

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        • #5
          Greetings Pop Pickers

          The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated Re-Worked Extended

          Chart For Week Ending Saturday 26th June 1954

          POS POS RECORD MIRROR CHART Re-Calculated Total Total Inv Inv
          LAST THIS TOP 23 (Based On 4 Dealers Returns) Gallup Dealer Points Points
          WEEK WEEK (Chart For Week Ending Saturday 26th June 1954) Points Charts Rank Scored
          2 1 Such A Night - Johnnie Ray 25.05 4 1 29
          1 2 Secret Love - Doris Day 20.73 3 2 25
          3 3 Idle Gossip - Perry Como 17.71 3 4 19
          NEW 4 Cara Mia - David Whitfield 15.91 3 3 22
          4 5 Wanted - Al Martino 14.58 3 5 18
          4 6 Beethoven's 5th Symphony (LP) - Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra 10.00 1 9 10
          11 7 Wanted - Perry Como 9.70 2 6 13
          14 8 Little Things Mean A Lot - Kitty Kallen 9.40 2 6 13
          7 9 The Happy Wanderer - The Obernkirchen Childrens Choir 8.58 2 8 11
          12 10 I Get So Lonely - The Four Knights 7.04 1 10 9
          8 10 Never Never Land - Frank Weir 7.04 1 10 9
          NEW 12 Story Of Three Loves - Winifred Atwell 6.58 2 13 6
          16 13 I Speak To The Stars / Bluebells Of Broadway - Doris Day 6.42 2 14 5
          12 14 Friends And Neighbours - Billy Cotton 6.35 2 14 5
          16 15 Music From 'Wedding In Paris' (LP) - OLC 4.99 1 12 7
          10 16 Cross Over The Bridge - Patti Page 3.95 1 14 5
          NEW 16 Jilted - Joan Regan 3.95 1 14 5
          21 18 Someone Else's Roses - Joan Regan 3.06 1 18 2
          NEW 18 Charleston - Winifred Atwell 3.06 1 18 2
          NEW 18 Oh Mein Papa - Eddie Calvert 3.06 1 18 2
          NEW 21 Heart Of My Heart - Max Bygraves 2.83 1 21 1
          8 21 Blue Pacific Blues - Rita Hayworth 2.83 1 21 1
          NEW 21 It's A Good Day - Billy Daniels 2.83 1 21 1
          The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

          The Way It Was Meant To Be

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          • #6
            Thanks for starting this great thread. Interesting the appearance of albums from the outset. It will be interesting to see if that declines once RM starts their own LP chart as that would suggest that a second set of dealer charts may exist for the LP chart or whether the same dealer charts provide data for both charts.

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            • #7
              I followed your last effort with the RM-charts with great interest, and will definitely follow this thread as well. I think I will alter information on peak positions and number of weeks in my lists according to your new work-out.
              Would it be too much to ask for if you can include number of weeks and peak positions along the way, if at all possible within the frames you work?
              Anyhow I am looking forward to watch this project develop and wish you many delightful hours while working on this.
              Last edited by ACA; Mon August 8, 2022, 13:36.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ACA View Post
                I followed your last effort with the RM-charts with great interest, and will definitely follow this thread as well. I think I will alter information on peak positions and number of weeks in my lists according to your new work-out.
                Would it be too much to ask for if you can include number of weeks and peak positions along the way, if at all possible within the frames you work?
                Anyhow I am looking forward to watch this project develop and wish you many delightful hours while working on this.
                Thanks for following again ACA and yes I think you will find this new thread much more accurate due to the newer methodology used and combining sides in just the one 'record'

                Reluctantly I had to abandon the idea of adding peak positions and weeks on chart simply on the basis of the extra time gleaning this information would take for each chart. For the same reason I haven't included records dropping off the chart. Once I move into 1955 with much, much more dealer returns it takes a good 4 to 5 hours to just compile one chart, check all titles have been included, and check all positions are entered correctly to ensure complete accuracy. I discovered this when I was doing the trial run charts using the Gallup system on random charts from 1955, 1956, 1958, and 1959. I have therefore to find a good time balance between compiling and posting to keep the project moving apace

                I hope though that because I have added the number of dealer charts each record appears on , and also added the positions the records would place at using Inverse Points compensates for this.

                Brian
                The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                • #9
                  I can see why it took many years for even Record Retailer and NME to introduce weeks on chart and peak position to their printed rundowns. When one person is doing it all, it does take a long time. I will be adding these to my own database and so data like peaks and week counts etc get auto generated. Really enjoying all this and have really enjoyed the many hours of talks we all had to arrive at this process.

                  Also, really grateful to MrTibbs for putting so much time and effort into doing this - a very important project.
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                  Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                  • #10
                    This is a wonderful project MrTibbs. I'm especially interested in seeing what records appear on these RM charts that didn't make the published RM charts at the time.

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                    • #11
                      I echo the comments above as to the worthiness of this project and the sheer amount of work involved. It will bring about some interesting revisions to the original RM charts, that's for sure.

                      Some random observations, having trodden the same path a quarter century ago at the British Library and elsewhere :

                      1) looking at an original page (15) from June 30, 1956, and my accompanying notes, I see that 45 shops reported that week. That will bring about many new entries to the officially published Top 20 that week

                      2) As you say Mr. Tibbs, there was never any certainty that all the dealer lists were either published or used. Presumably you'll be able to see if that is the case or not quite easily by checking the final published chart matches what you calculate were the positions from the printed lists using the inverse points. If they don't agree then, almost certainly, RM used more returns than they printed.

                      3) The point of this dealer return method was a simple one. It put the onus on the stores to join in and, in return, they got free advertising of sorts and the kudos of having their shop mentioned. No doubt important in those bygone times and it saved the paper the bother - quite cute really. As a young reader in London I might well know of HMV in Oxford Street, or the record counter at Selfridge's just down the road, but not Larg & Sons in High Holborn. Being a tube hop away I might very well have paid them a visit after seeing their published list...

                      4) I am unsure if the lists ever exceeded 70 returns, but I could be wrong as I have an inkling about 120 or 130 for some reason in the 58/59 period. That would really be a lot of entries, and we could be entering the larger than NME or MM territory. Not that the OCC will ever change the final decision that NME is the record of choice for these years until RR came along.

                      5) Finally, could you give some more detail about the Gallup Average Sales Data method? An example or two, perhaps when the returns are bigger and more meaningful? I am unclear as to what you mean by taking a 51 week period and looking at the differentials in sales patterns per position. Maybe it is just my senior moment, but I find it baffling!

                      Any way, as also mentioned earlier, there will be hours of pleasure and interest for you ahead along with the work, and I too will be looking in regularly.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Topical. You raise some good points there.

                        The number of dealer charts published varied week to week. Once we get into 1955 this increases progressively over 1954. I have all the pages containing dealer charts 54 to 61. It never becomes more than around 60 but even drops for a few weeks to around 12 in 1956 when there is a dispute at the paper.

                        We really don't know enough about how RM's own chart was compiled at the time unfortunately and I wish we did. Dave Taylor once told me given print deadlines etc they didn't have time to sit down with all the dealers returns, check them, and add them up so went with a sample. How big we don't know. This would certainly tie in with the article I reported on in RM where they said they rotated the weekly sample to give all dealers consideration.

                        The Gallup info.

                        In 1983 Gallup gave us exact sales numbers for every chart position for a full year. This allowed us to see how sales levels between chart points compared. Of course this information from just a few weeks would not have been reliable but taken over a full year it presented a clear picture in sales v chart position differentials and it could be averaged out to give an overall average level for the year for each chart position sales level. This was the closest year with this level of information available to the 54/61 period. Like I said in the introduction we compared it to other systems extensively, Inverse Points, Chartwatch System, BMRB BARS information and it came out as the most reliable so we decided to proceed with this to give a good balanced reliable chart.
                        The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                        The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                        • #13
                          Greetings Pop Pickers

                          The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated Re-Worked Extended

                          This chart, just tongue in cheek at this time remember due to just a handful of dealer returns shows how weak just a few returns are. Look at Johnnie Ray plummet from #1 to #16. But it will soon improve as returns increase.

                          Chart For Week Ending Saturday 3rd July 1954


                          POS POS RECORD MIRROR CHART Re-Calculated Total Total Inv Inv
                          LAST THIS TOP 27 (Based On 5 Dealers Returns) Gallup Dealer Points Points
                          WEEK WEEK (Chart For Week Ending Saturday 3rd July 1954) Points Charts Rank Scored
                          4 1 Cara Mia - David Whitfield 36.74 5 1 42
                          8 2 Little Things Mean A Lot - Kitty Kallen 34.05 5 1 42
                          3 3 Idle Gossip - Perry Como 29.10 5 3 36
                          7 4 Wanted - Perry Como 25.44 4 4 31
                          5 5 Wanted - Al Martino 17.04 2 5 19
                          NEW 6 Little Things Mean A Lot - Alma Cogan 12.03 2 6 16
                          10 7 I Get So Lonely - The Four Knights 11.87 3 7 14
                          14 8 Friends And Neighbours - Billy Cotton 10.60 3 10 11
                          21 9 Blue Pacific Blues - Rita Hayworth 10.33 2 8 12
                          21 10 Heart Of My Heart - Max Bygraves 8.83 2 8 12
                          2 11 Secret Love - Doris Day 7.54 2 11 9
                          RE 12 Young At Heart - Frank Sinatra 6.65 2 14 6
                          NEW 13 Shulie A Bop - Sarah Vaughan 6.11 2 19 4
                          RE 14 The Little Shoemaker - Petula Clark 5.88 2 21 3
                          NEW 15 I Get So Lonely / Young At Heart - Bing Crosby 5.75 1 12 8
                          NEW 15 Knock On Wood - Danny Kaye 5.75 1 12 8
                          1 17 Such A Night - Johnny Ray 5.65 2 25 2
                          NEW 18 A Girl A Girl - Eddie Fisher 4.42 1 14 6
                          18 18 Someone Else's Roses - Joan Regan 4.42 1 14 6
                          NEW 18 Heart Of My Heart - The Four Aces 4.42 1 14 6
                          NEW 21 Friends And Neighbours - Max Bygraves 3.95 1 18 5
                          NEW 22 Bob's Yer Uncle - Guy Mitchell 3.59 1 19 4
                          12 23 Story Of Three Loves - Winifred Atwell 3.29 1 21 3
                          10 23 Never Never Land / The Little Shoemaker - Frank Weir 3.29 1 21 3
                          NEW 23 Dime And A Dollar - Guy Mitchell 3.29 1 21 3
                          NEW 26 West Of Zanzibar - Anthony Steel and The Radio Revellers 2.83 1 26 1
                          16 26 Cross Over The Bridge - Patti Page 2.83 1 26 1
                          The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                          The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                          • #14
                            There's going to be some weird and wonderful chart movements with just a handful of dealers sending in returns but already Johnny Ray's drop from 1 to 16 will take some beating... or will it?

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                            • #15
                              Indeed Robbie. I can only hope this is completely because of the low number of stores reporting - just five this week maximum used from what it appears.

                              If such extremes happen when the reports increase to, say, 25 - and, may I add, with a good geographical spread - then it will become worrying.

                              Thanks for the reply MrTibbs, especially about the Gallup method. The likelihood is, dare I say, that it is the root cause of the No. 16 position for 'Such A Night' down from No. 1. But as you've said, the early charts are more for completeness so let it roll out into larger reporting Top Tens before we can really judge. It is clearly a flaw as NME have Ray at No. 3 that week...

                              Yes, 60-odd was the best as I thought in reporting stores. It was 62 according to my notes on 27th July 1957 for instance. I now believe it was maybe Melody Maker I was thinking of for 120-plus, and in the 60s probably to boot. Doh! Forgive my fading grey matter - and the heat doesn't help!

                              May I ask that you indicate the number of Top Tens published each week? It is, as you will find, another quirk of the way records were sold in these times that even the bestsellers were not included everywhere.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Topicel View Post
                                Thanks for the reply MrTibbs, especially about the Gallup method. The likelihood is, dare I say, that it is the root cause of the No. 16 position for 'Such A Night' down from No. 1. But as you've said, the early charts are more for completeness so let it roll out into larger reporting Top Tens before we can really judge. It is clearly a flaw as NME have Ray at No. 3 that week...
                                I think in this case it's a symptom of being on 4 dealer charts - and quite high - in one week and then on 2 only and quite low the next. This week has only 5 printed dealer returns, while NME would have bene making the chart from (from memory!!) 30 or so, thus more likely to get a representative sample. The test charts from 1957/58/59 with loads of dealer returns do match closely to the finished RM chart, which I know was something MrTibbs considered when making this.

                                Originally posted by Topicel View Post
                                May I ask that you indicate the number of Top Tens published each week? It is, as you will find, another quirk of the way records were sold in these times that even the bestsellers were not included everywhere.
                                If I understand correctly I think he does.
                                The top of the chart each week states 'TOP 23 (Based On 5 Dealers Returns)' and that is always going to showcase how many dealer charts where used. Equally, the second grey column labelled 'Rank' shows how many charts the record appeared on.

                                Think that shows what you are asking.
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                                • #17
                                  It would make sense for RM to make it known they rotated the stores, as an anti-hyping measure.

                                  Petula Clark's first chart hit - but actually her 20th record!

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                                  • #18
                                    Thanks KingofSkiffle, the number of Top 10s is indeed shown, I had only spotted the column for inverse points rank. Like I said, fried brains, just 37 degrees here today... Haute Garonne for those that don't know my location... as it has been for weeks pretty much.

                                    As I suggested, the 'Such A Night' issue will hopefully indeed be less of a problem when more stores are rolled out in later re-calculations. Nevertheless, just five stores or not, it is an outlier as a result. This means three retailers were saying it was not in their Top 10 bestselling records that week, and underlines my observation that records were not sold uniformly in those dim and distant times.

                                    Apart from delivery and stock problems - can you even imagine! - the local proprietor who compiled the reports where 'Such A Night' didn't make a showing might have had a dislike of the theatrical Mr. Ray and unilaterally decided not to carry his merchandise! Most of the shops in 1954 were carrying records as an afterthought, the principal items being electrical reproduction equipment, gramophones and the newfangled square box that sat in the corner of the parlour!

                                    Is it possible to expand on how 5.65 was arrived at as a Total Dealer Charts figure using Gallup data? I'm sure others would be interested.

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                                    • #19
                                      I wouldn't read too much into these few early weeks charts Topicel. I'm only posting them for interest rather than the serious charts RM will become soon. Once the dealer returns become healthier in respect of numbers you will see a more robust chart. Even so if you look closely at early NME you will see similar strange patterns in record behaviour.

                                      For example back on 12th December 1953 a year into the NME chart Diana Decker with Poppa Piccolino climbed up to #2 then vanished from the NME chart the following week and by this time the NME chart was well established.
                                      So strange patterns were not uncommon in the charts of these early days.

                                      As to the Gallup Data again. Our team of whizz kid mathematicians took the Gallup findings I described above and converted it into proportional points with decimals for detail to allocate to each chart position in the Dealers' Top Ten Charts.

                                      Here is the point allocation for your information which we used to allocate points based on position for each record.


                                      GALLUP DATA
                                      from 1983 (51 Weeks Averaged)
                                      Dealer Chart then adjusted to
                                      Position #1 = 10 points
                                      1 10.000000
                                      2 7.040050
                                      3 5.745974
                                      4 4.986693
                                      5 4.416766
                                      6 3.950596
                                      7 3.594034
                                      8 3.291408
                                      9 3.055961
                                      10 2.826139


                                      Gallup data is better than Invoice Points because the sales relationship between positions does not equate to the #1 selling ten times more than #10. which Inverse Point allocation advocates.

                                      The sales relationship between records in the top ten is generally closer. The above table shows (evidence based from Gallup's sales figures) for every ten records sold to reach #1, 7 sales would make #2, 5 sales would make #3 and so on.
                                      This allocation of points is therefore much more realistic in allocating deserved chart position points based on likely sales levels.
                                      The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                      The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                      • #20
                                        Guys please note a slight amendment to the above chart for 3rd July.

                                        One of the difficult and time consuming tasks for me when compiling the chart is checking to ensure that all split sides are combined but one on this chart slipped through the net. Bing Crosby's I Get So Lonely/Young At Heart are both on the same record so I have amended the chart to reflect this.

                                        Sorry about that
                                        The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                        The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                        • #21
                                          This just proves how difficult it is to get all factors right at all times when you have much to handle. I really appreciate that you as the only one is willing to undertake this momentous seven year chartmaking. Kingofskiffle with his 70 years of UK charts and you with this are doing outstanding work to support us fans with charts no one else have the guts and stamina to complete. Both these projects are extremely enjoyable, surpassing everything I’ve seen during my years of chartwatching that reaches 60 next week.

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                                          • #22
                                            While the drop from 1 to 16 does appear to be an anomaly on this chart, if you look at inverse points, it would have fallen to 25! It will be interesting to see how it behaves next. As you know which dealers are listed, I wonder whether the 3 that didn't feature the record this time, were ones that reported it the previous week or whether they are an entirely 'new' set of dealers.
                                            Last edited by braindeadpj; Tue August 9, 2022, 23:43.

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                                            • #23
                                              According to Discog, it's "Bob's Yer Uncle" rather than "Bob's Your Uncle" for Guy Mitchell (no.22).

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                                              • MrTibbs
                                                MrTibbs commented
                                                Editing a comment
                                                I took the spelling from the dealer chart brain. Obviously mis-spelt so corrected it.

                                            • #24
                                              Greetings Pop Pickers

                                              The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated Re-Worked Extended

                                              This chart is just a little more stable this week with 8 returns making a bit of a difference.

                                              Chart For Week Ending Saturday 10th July 1954


                                              POS POS RECORD MIRROR CHART Re-Calculated Total Total Inv Inv
                                              LAST THIS TOP 34 (Based On 8 Dealers Returns) Gallup Dealer Points Points
                                              WEEK WEEK (Chart For Week Ending Saturday 10th July 1954) Points Charts Rank Scored
                                              1 1 Cara Mia - David Whitfield 61.06 8 1 67
                                              2 2 Little Things Mean A Lot - Kitty Kallen 56.73 8 2 65
                                              11 3 Secret Love - Doris Day 27.25 6 6 27
                                              3 4 Idle Gossip - Perry Como 27.05 6 3 35
                                              5 5 Wanted - Al Martino 25.42 5 5 32
                                              4 6 Wanted - Perry Como 24.38 5 4 33
                                              14 7 The Little Shoemaker - Petula Clark 19.00 4 7 24
                                              9 8 Blue Pacific Blues - Rita Hayworth 14.99 2 8 17
                                              6 8 Little Things Mean A Lot - Alma Cogan 14.99 2 8 17
                                              17 10 Such A Night - Johnnie Ray 12.23 4 16 8
                                              NEW 11 Basin Street Blues - Louis Armstrong 11.46 2 10 15
                                              NEW 12 Some Day - Frankie Laine 11.41 3 11 12
                                              8 13 Friends And Neighbours - Billy Cotton 10.87 3 12 10
                                              NEW 14 Three Coins In The Fountain - Frank Sinatra 8.57 2 14 9
                                              7 15 I Get So Lonely - The Four Knights 8.28 2 12 10
                                              18 16 Someone Else's Roses - Joan Regan 7.71 2 14 9
                                              12 17 Young At Heart - Frank Sinatra 7.24 2 17 7
                                              10 18 Heart Of My Heart - Max Bygraves 6.89 2 17 7
                                              RE 19 I Speak To The Stars / The Bluebells Of Broadway - Doris Day 6.12 2 27 4
                                              NEW 20 My Restless Lover - Patti Page 4.99 1 17 7
                                              21 20 Friends And Neighbours - Max Bygraves 4.99 1 17 7
                                              NEW 22 Destiny - Johnnie Ray 4.42 1 21 6
                                              RE 22 The Happy Wanderer - The Obernkirchen Childrens Choir 4.42 1 21 6
                                              23 22 The Story Of Three Loves - Winifred Atwell 4.42 1 21 6
                                              13 25 Shulie A Bop - Sarah Vaughan 3.95 1 24 5
                                              NEW 25 Sway - Dean Martin 3.95 1 24 5
                                              NEW 25 Changing Partners - Patti Page 3.95 1 24 5
                                              18 28 Heart Of My Heart - The Four Aces 3.59 1 27 4
                                              15 29 Knock On Wood - Danny Kaye 3.29 1 29 3
                                              NEW 30 Ki-Ki-Ri-Ki-Ki - Helen Cordet 3.06 1 30 2
                                              RE 30 Make Love To Me - Alma Cogan 3.06 1 30 2
                                              NEW 30 Ebb Tide - Jerry Colonna 3.06 1 30 2
                                              NEW 33 I Know You're Mine - Betty Driver 2.83 1 33 1
                                              The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                              The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                              • #25
                                                Terrific stuff, I am in awe of the effort being put in here - and of the results! Betty Driver in at 33, who'da thought it? I will be watching this thread for a long time. Sincere thanks to all involved!

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