The Definitive Combined Music Papers Chart 1955 - 1969

[MrTibbs]

Two Lonnie Donegan, as Lost John starts to chart

The-Times-They- Are- A-Changin' .. Lonnie charting with his second hit which will soon be joined by it's flip side Stewball being credited then next month Elvis makes his chart debut. Out with the old and in with the new as they say.

[kingofskiffle]

The-Times-They- Are- A-Changin' .. Lonnie charting with his second hit which will soon be joined by it's flip side Stewball being credited then next month Elvis makes his chart debut. Out with the old and in with the new as they say.

Absolutely. I've always felt it a shame that Lonnie's personality meant he rubbed people up the wrong way a little as he could have been more like Elvis career wise. After all, it all comes form the same source, just diverges a little...

In the 70 Years Series I've just issued 2007, and Lonnie is still, at that stage, in the Top 100 - 79 in terms of weeks in the longer chart (Top 75 to 1983, then Top 100 to 91, Top 75 to 94 and then Top 200 onwards), and at 32 in just the Top 75 in terms of weeks on chart.

If you look at the Top 75 since it began through to July 2017 then the Top 100 up to the current chart, Lonnie is now at 94 in terms of weeks on chart - last charted in 1962!

[MrTibbs]

Ah ! I meant to mention you will notice from April 27th the store numbers for MM has increased to 27. This is the first week that they increased their dealer returns above 20. From this point on each weekly MM chart will reflect the number of store returns used as printed on the original charts in the paper for as long as that fact was detailed by them.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

The Definitive Combined Music Papers Chart 1955 -1969

Welcome To The Chart Of All Charts

The Chart For Week Ending Saturday 5th May 1956

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	31	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 5th May 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					2	1	1	4102.8	4615	1
4	2	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	2	2	3871.9	4589	2
2	3	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					3	3	3	2689.1	4368	3
3	4	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					4	4	5	2231.2	4152	4
6	5	A Tear Fell Teresa Brewer					6	5	4	2078.7	4051	5
5	6	Only You - The Hilltoppers					5	7	6	1906.6	3934	6
8	7	My September Love - David Whitfield					7	6	7	1715.2	3775	7
20	8	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					9	10	8	1451.2	3461	8
14	9	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					8	16	13	1244.4	3040	11
16	10	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					14	9	10	1221.7	3047	10
17	11	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					12	11	11	1193.5	3055	9
7	12	Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King					15	8	12	1154.9	2893	13
11	13	See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets					10	12	15	1154.5	2914	12
12	14	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - The Dick Hyman Trio					19	15	9	1074.6	2596	15
10	15	Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin					13	13	14	1067.0	2748	14
13	16	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					11	18	17	1011.8	2543	16
9	17	Zambesi - Lou Busch					16	14	16	942.8	2402	17
15	18	Willie Can - Alma Cogan					17	17	18	859.0	2124	18
19	19	Ain't Misbehavin' - Johnnie Ray					18		19	650.4	1565	19
26	20	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan						18	20	453.6	1063	20
21	21	The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson					20			313.3	715	21
28	22	Innamorata - Dean Martin					21			297.9	650	22
30	23	Juke Box Baby - Perry Como					22			283.7	585	23
30	24	Nothin' To Do - Michael Holliday					23			267.7	520	24
29	25	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					24			254.1	455	25
23	26	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Billy Vaughn					25			242.0	390	26
RE	27	Young And Foolish - Edmund Hockridge					26			230.8	325	28
25	28	Willie Can - The Beverly Sisters					27			221.2	260	29
NEW	29	Hell Hath No Fury - Frankie Laine					28			209.6	195	30
24	30	In A Little Spanish Town - Bing Crosby					29			200.5	130	31
		Seven Days - Anne Shelton					30			191.4	65	32
		I'm A Fool - Slim Whitman						20		149.4	341	27

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

The Definitive Combined Music Papers Chart 1955 -1969

Welcome To The Chart Of All Charts

The Chart For Week Ending Saturday 12th May 1956

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	32	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 12th May 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
2	1	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	1	1	4710.0	4710	1
1	2	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					2	2	2	3315.9	4553	2
3	3	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					3	3	5	2467.1	4276	3
5	4	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					5	5	3	2319.6	4202	4
4	5	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					6	3	6	2033.1	4021	5
6	6	Only You - The Hilltoppers					3	8	8	2028.9	3936	7
7	7	My September Love - David Whitfield					7	6	4	1977.7	3980	6
10	8	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					9	7	7	1587.9	3638	8
11	9	Lost John / Stewball - Lonnie Donegan *					8	5	10	1574.5	3587	9
8	10	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					10	9	9	1394.5	3389	10
9	11	Theme From'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					11	13	11	1203.4	3076	11
12	12	Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King					14	11	12	1123.0	2885	12
16	13	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					12	15	14	1075.8	2767	13
13	14	See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets					13	14	16	1020.0	2614	14
20	15	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					20	12	13	969.2	2403	15
15	16	Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin					17	15	19	871.4	2142	16
14	17	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - The Dick Hyman Trio					16	18	19	859.3	2111	17
NEW	18	No Other Love - Edmund Hockridge					27	19	18	702.5	1424	20
18	19	Willie Can - Alma Cogan					18		17	682.7	1685	18
25	20	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					22		15	658.0	1545	19
17	21	Zambesi - Lou Busch					21	17		478.2	1098	21
NEW	22	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					15			405.5	1040	22
19	23	Ain't Misbehavin' - Johnnie Ray					19			331.1	780	23
NEW	24	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					23			267.7	520	24
21	25	The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson					24			254.1	455	25
23	26	Juke Box Baby - Perry Como					25			242.0	390	26
30	27	In A Little Spanish Town - Bing Crosby					26			230.8	325	27
NEW	28	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					28			209.6	195	28
RE	29	I'm A Fool - Slim Whitman					29			200.5	130	29
22	30	Innamorata - Dean Martin					30			191.4	65	30
		Lost John - Lonnie Donegan *						10
		Stewball - Lonnie Donegan *						20
		* Joint Sides So Points Combined

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

The Definitive Combined Music Papers Chart 1955 -1969

Welcome To The Chart Of All Charts

The Chart For Week Ending Saturday 19th May 1956

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	33	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 19th May 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	1	1	4740.0	4740	1
2	2	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					2	2	2	3337.0	4582	2
4	3	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					4	4	3	2500.4	4326	3
7	4	My September Love - David Whitfield					3	5	5	2352.7	4238	4
5	5	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					5	2	6	2269.3	4147	5
8	6	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					7	6	4	1989.6	4005	6
3	7	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					6	7	10	1634.9	3677	7
10	8	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					9	9	7	1545.4	3596	8
6	9	Only You - The Hilltoppers					12	8	8	1398.6	3374	10
9	10	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					10	10	9	1381.0	3378	9
11	11	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					11	11	11	1238.3	3160	11
13	12	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					13	12	13	1117.8	2877	12
24	13	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					8		12	1085.2	2635	13
22	14	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					14	18	17	941.8	2374	14
14	15	See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets					16	13	18	932.9	2349	15
28	16	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					17	17	15	926.4	2332	16
19	17	Willie Can - Alma Cogan					22	15	19	795.3	1833	17
17	18	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - The Dick Hyman Trio					25		14	637.8	1410	20
NEW	19	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					19		20	620.3	1440	19
18	20	No Other Love - Edmund Hockridge					24		16	608.5	1355	21
20	21	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					15	18		580.5	1469	18
NEW	22	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					18	18		519.7	1274	22
12	23	Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King					22	14		501.4	1146	23
15	24	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					20	18		488.3	1144	24
16	25	Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin					27	18		396.3	689	25
25	26	The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson					21			297.9	650	26
23	27	Ain't Misbehavin' - Johnnie Ray					26			230.8	325	28
21	28	Zambesi - Lou Busch					28			209.6	195	29
29	29	I'm A Fool Slim Whitman						15		205.9	528	27
RE	30	Robin Hood / Davy Crockett - Dick James					29			200.5	130	30
		Juke Box Baby - Perry Como					30

[MrTibbs]

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 150 DEALER RETURNS					65	30	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 26th May 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	1	1	4650.0	4650	1
3	2	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					2	2	2	3273.6	4495	2
6	3	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					4	3	3	2523.8	4275	3
2	4	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					3	6	5	2271.0	4130	4
4	5	My September Love - David Whitfield					5	4	4	2207.7	4120	5
5	6	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					6	5	7	1814.8	3845	6
10	7	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					7	7	6	1735.4	3780	7
13	8	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					9	14	8	1386.3	3320	8
8	9	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					10	10	9	1355.5	3315	9
14	10	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					8	13	11	1321.8	3235	10
9	11	Only You - The Hilltoppers					11	9	10	1293.2	3220	11
7	12	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					13	8	12	1194.0	3000	12
11	13	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					12	11	13	1134.9	2915	13
12	14	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					17	15	14	949.1	2410	14
22	15	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					14	20	15	947.7	2395	15
24	16	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					21	12	16	874.0	2120	16
NEW	17	Hot Diggity - Perry Como					15	19	19	864.0	2120	16
15	18	See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets					22	17	19	758.4	1725	18
25	19	Memories Are Made Of This - Dean Martin					25	16	18	737.4	1620	19
16	20	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					19		17	669.1	1620	19
NEW	21	Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley					16	18		543.0	1365	21
21	22	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					17			366.2	910	22
19	23	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					20			313.3	715	23
NEW	24	The Saints Rock'n'Roll - Bill Haley and His Comets					23			267.7	520	24
27	25	Ain't Misbehavin' - Johnnie Ray					24			254.1	455	25
26	26	The Great Pretender - Jimmy Parkinson					26			230.8	325	26
NEW	27	Out Of Town - Max Bygraves					27			221.2	260	27
NEW	28	Ivory Tower - The Three Kayes					28			209.6	195	28
RE	29	Juke Box Baby - Perry Como					29			200.5	130	29
23	30	Memories Are Made Of This - Dave King					30			191.4	65	30

[kingofskiffle]

I have to say I do quite like these. I know I've said it before, but the layout with the three components is very good. And the smoothing effect of the points on the multiples is excellent. I really am enjoying these

[braindeadpj]

Agree completely. Well done Mr Tibbs for executing this excellent chart!

[MrTibbs]

You really are welcome guys. It's gratifying to get such positive feedback and 'likes' and makes the work involved worthwhile. I can't wait to get to what is really my own era though from late1963 onwards when my musical interest was set alight and my taste in music like The Beatles, Stones, etc etc horrified my parents much to my delight.

[MrTibbs]

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	31	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 2nd June 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	1	1	4680.0	4680	1
2	2	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					4	2	2	2894.3	4394	2
7	3	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					2	4	4	2734.2	4342	4
3	4	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					3	3	3	2689.1	4368	3
10	5	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					5	8	5	1962.4	3963	5
5	6	My September Love - David Whitfield					7	6	5	1863.3	3895	6
4	7	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					6	7	7	1751.5	3809	7
6	8	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					8	5	10	1561.3	3561	8
8	9	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					9	11	8	1431.3	3430	9
9	10	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					12	9	9	1314.6	3237	10
24	11	The Saints Rock'n'Roll - Bill Haley and His Comets					10	12	11	1250.4	3154	11
11	12	Only You - The Hilltoppers					11	13	12	1169.5	2998	12
20	13	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					14	17	13	1023.0	2619	14
17	14	Hot Diggity - Perry Como					13	15	15	1022.2	2626	13
13	15	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					15	18	14	965.7	2463	15
14	16	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					17	14	16	925.1	2337	16
12	17	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					21	9	19	887.8	2052	18
15	18	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					16	19	17	879.8	2187	17
21	19	Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley					19	20	18	798.7	1901	19
16	20	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					22	16	19	772.5	1770	20
22	21	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					18			344.7	845	21
23	22	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					20			313.3	715	22
18	23	See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley and The Comets					23			267.7	520	23
NEW	24	Delilah Jones - The McGuire Sisters					24			254.1	455	24
29	25	Juke Box Baby - Perry Como					25			242.0	390	25
NEW	26	Moonglow And Theme From Picnic - Morris Stoloff					26			230.8	325	26
27	27	Out Of Town - Max Bygraves					27			221.2	260	27
NEW	28	The Happy Whistler - Cyril Stapleton					28			209.6	195	28
RE	29	No Other Love - Edmund Hockridge					29			200.5	130	29
28	30	Ivory Tower - The Three Kayes					30			191.4	65	30

[MrTibbs]

Lonnie and Elvis are now both Top 5, and they haven't peaked yet. The Elvis bandwagon is only starting to roll, he also holds #19 and that's nothing to what is yet to come by the year end. Lonnie too is no flash in the pan. He has still to reach his peak by 1957. Rock'n'Roll in all its various guises is now beginning to take hold but the old brigade won't be giving up without a fight. The battle lines are drawn.

[MrTibbs]

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	30	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 9th June 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					1	1	3	3884.3	4530	2
4	2	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					2	2	1	3806.4	4555	1
3	3	Lost John / Stewball - Lonnie Donegan *					3	3	2	2904.8	4400	3
2	4	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					5	3	4	2276.0	4150	4
5	5	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					4	6	5	2123.0	4065	5
11	6	The Saints Rock'n'Roll - Bill Haley and His Comets					7	8	6	1708.2	3750	6
6	7	My September Love - David Whitfield					8	5	7	1686.3	3715	7
14	8	Hot Diggity - Perry Como					6	9	13	1464.9	3365	8
8	9	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					9	7	11	1389.6	3350	9
7	10	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					11	10	9	1313.8	3250	10
9	11	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					13	11	8	1282.0	3150	11
13	12	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					12	12	12	1145.3	2945	12
19	13	Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley					10	18	14	1106.0	2775	13
10	14	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					17	18	10	1034.0	2560	14
26	15	Moonglow And Theme From Picnic - Morris Stoloff					15	14	16	957.8	2450	15
12	16	Only You - The Hilltoppers					14	13	20	927.8	2305	17
18	17	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					16	17	15	927.2	2355	16
27	18	Out Of Town - Max Bygraves					28	20	18	672.4	1305	19
21	19	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					22		19	589.4	1305	19
15	20	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					21		20	587.1	1310	18
20	21	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					19	15		518.3	1260	21
16	22	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King					25	15		429.2	870	22
22	23	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					18			344.7	845	23
NEW	24	Hot Diggity - The Stargazers							17	338.0	840	24
30	25	Ivory Tower - The Three Kayes					20			313.3	715	25
NEW	26	Take It Satch (EP) - Louis Armstrong							20	289.2	660	26
17	27	It's Almost Tomorrow - The Dream Weavers					23			267.7	520	27
RE	28	Ain't Misbehavin' - Johnnie Ray					24			254.1	455	28
28	29	The Happy Whistler - Cyril Stapleton					26			230.8	325	29
NEW	30	The Wayward Wind - Jimmy Young					27			221.2	260	30
		Delilah Jones - The McGuire Sisters					29			200.5	130	31
		Who Are We - Vera Lynn					30			191.4	65	32
		Lost John - Lonnie Donegan *						4
		Stewball - Lonnie Donegan *						20

[Splodj]

Although Rock & Roll was now charting in Britain there were no appearances yet of Chuck Berry or Little Richard who by now had released a few classics of the genre.

[MrTibbs]

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	30	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 16th June 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
2	1	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					1	1	1	4650.0	4650	1
3	2	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					2	4	2	3088.8	4435	2
1	3	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					4	2	3	2640.3	4305	3
5	4	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					3	4	6	2280.4	4130	4
4	5	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					7	3	4	2115.6	4020	5
6	6	The Saints Rock'n'Roll - Bill Haley and His Comets					6	7	5	1888.8	3905	6
8	7	Hot Diggity - Perry Como					5	8	7	1804.4	3820	7
7	8	My September Love - David Whitfield					8	6	8	1589.8	3625	8
13	9	Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley					9	11	9	1381.1	3350	9
11	10	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					11	10	9	1313.8	3250	10
17	11	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					10	15	13	1157.8	2925	11
9	12	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					12	9	15	1129.6	2855	12
15	13	Moonglow And Theme From Picnic - Morris Stoloff					13	15	12	1085.0	2790	13
NEW	14	Hot Diggity / The Gal With The Yaller Shoes - Michael Holliday *					19	20	8	1068.2	2490	14
12	15	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					14	13	18	956.8	2425	15
10	16	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					15	20	14	945.9	2390	16
14	17	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					21	17	11	937.2	2270	17
19	18	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					17		18	684.4	1690	18
16	19	Only You - The Hilltoppers					16	12		605.6	1545	19
18	20	Out Of Town - Max Bygraves					18	14		542.6	1355	20
23	21	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					20			313.3	715	21
29	22	The Happy Whistler - Cyril Stapleton					22			283.7	585	22
20	23	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					23			267.7	520	23
25	24	Ivory Tower - The Three Kayes					24			254.1	455	24
21	25	Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan					25			242.0	390	25
NEW	26	Carousel Waltz - Ray Martin					28			209.6	195	30
26	27	Take It Satch (EP) - Louis Armstrong					29			200.5	130	31
RE	28	No Other Love - Edmund Hockridge					30			191.4	65	32
22	29	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King						18		159.1	390	25
24	30	Hot Diggity - The Stargazers						19		152.8	360	27
		Songs For Swingin' Lovers (LP) - Frank Sinatra					26			230.8	325	28
		Carousel' Sountrack (LP)					27			221.2	260	29
		Hot Diggity - Michael Holliday *							16
		Gal In The Yaller Shoes - Michael Holliday *							20
		* Joint Sides So Points Combined
		** Record Mirror Omitted a #17 This Week.

[MrTibbs]

		THE DEFINITIVE MUSIC PAPERS CHART					Dealer Returns
CHART	CHART	BRITAIN'S BEST SELLING RECORDS					NME	MM	RM	Gallup	Inverse	Inverse
LAST	THIS	CHART BASED ON OVER 130 DEALER RETURNS					65	33	60	Points	Points	Chart
WEEK	WEEK	Chart For Week Ending Saturday 23rd June 1956								Scored	Scored	Position
1	1	I'll Be Home - Pat Boone					1	1	1	4740.0	4740	1
4	2	Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley					2	3	4	2839.3	4429	2
2	3	Lost John - Lonnie Donegan					3	6	2	2778.8	4385	3
3	4	No Other Love - Ronnie Hilton					5	2	5	2353.3	4207	4
6	5	The Saints Rock'n'Roll - Bill Haley and His Comets					6	4	3	2298.3	4196	5
7	6	Hot Diggity - Perry Como					4	5	6	2120.8	4113	6
14	7	Hot Diggity / The Gal With The Yaller Shoes - Michael Holliday *					6	6	5	1956.5	4010	7
5	8	A Tear Fell - Teresa Brewer					8	7	7	1644.6	3727	8
8	9	My September Love - David Whitfield					8	9	8	1536.8	3601	9
13	10	Moonglow And Theme From Picnic - Morris Stoloff					7	15	9	1456.8	3408	10
9	11	Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley					10	8	10	1385.7	3384	11
11	12	Blue Suede Shoes - Carl Perkins					12	10	15	1134.4	2888	12
10	13	The Happy Whistler - Don Robertson					14	11	13	1107.0	2845	13
15	14	Too Young To Go Steady - Nat King Cole					11		12	952.8	2440	14
18	15	Mountain Greenery - Mel Torme					17		19	671.8	1630	16
17	16	Theme From 'Man With The Golden Arm' - Billy May					27		16	575.6	1160	18
NEW	17	Experiments With Mice - Johnny Dankworth					29		17	538.5	970	20
20	18	Out Of Town - Max Bygraves					18	17		530.6	1307	17
12	19	Rock And Roll Waltz - Kay Starr					22	14		501.4	1146	19
19	20	Only You - The Hilltoppers					26	12		474.7	952	21
30	21	Hot Diggity - The Stargazers					28	17		395.5	657	25
24	22	Ivory Tower - The Three Kayes					30	16		386.3	560	27
16	23	Poor People Of Paris - Winifred Atwell					18			344.7	845	22
21	24	Port-Au-Prince - Winifred Atwell					20			313.3	715	24
23	25	Theme From 'The Threepenny Opera' - Louis Armstrong					21			297.9	650	26
22	26	The Happy Whistler - Cyril Stapleton					23			267.7	520	28
NEW	27	Serenade - Slim Whitman					24			254.1	455	29
NEW	28	Rich Man Poor Man - Jimmy Young					25			242.0	390	30
NEW	29	The Wayward Wind - Tex Ritter					30			191.4	65	32
29	30	You Can't Be True To Two - Dave King						20		159.1	363	31
		Hot Diggity - Michael Holliday *					15	13	11
		The Gal With The Yaller Shoes - Michael Holliday *					13	19	17
		* Joint Sides So Points Combined
		Songs For Swingin' Lovers (LP) - Frank Sinatra					16		13	803.4	2055	15
		Carousel - Original Soundtrack (LP)							19	305.7	720	23

[MrTibbs]

Wow ! Thanks guys, the Definitive Combined Music Papers Chart has already clocked up 20 likes on the introductory post on page 1 and we are only at 1956. I really am grateful to see that at least 20 of you are enjoying and following the thread which makes all the work compiling and posting worthwhile.

I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on the Gallup Points system as opposed to the Inverse Points system and if you think Gallup Points are a further improvement in smoothing and fine tuning the chart.

[Splodj]

I think in these early years the Gallup sales curve is particularly useful in providing a more reliable method for combining sides. This is exemplified in the current chart where all 3 have separated MIchael Holliday with different and conflicting positions which the DMPC has made sense of, and put it in the Top 10 where it should have been. We have also seen how useful this has been to settle the separating/combining different treatment of a record between the charts.

When separation becomes reduced to an NME-only issue I expect the big advantage of the Gallup curve will be to shine a clearer light on those weeks where there was a disputed positional situation between the charts. There has been a lot of harmony in the top echelons recently, but we know that can easily change!

[Satchmo76]

Interesting that Songs For Swingin' Lovers (LP) is listed on two charts so is not a fluke in the NME. It would be 15 if allowed on the combined chart.

[MAPL]

Honestly what I like most is the amount of actual data presented in a small area, that's why I read this thread. Not for the combined rankings which I rarely even look at. I do prefer Inverse if I had to pick, it's more scientific data driven and is not susceptible to personal bias of how the charts would look best to any specific person. My big issue with Gallup method is that it assumes sales patterns almost thirty years earlier and during a very volatile period of music - Birth of rock Beatles etc - would mirror those patterns from the baseline decades later. Unless I misunderstand the writeups that said 1983 was the baseline,

As I said though, I'm here for the side by side data presentation and that is awesome. So thank you.

[MrTibbs]

Honestly what I like most is the amount of actual data presented in a small area, that's why I read this thread. Not for the combined rankings which I rarely even look at. I do prefer Inverse if I had to pick, it's more scientific data driven and is not susceptible to personal bias of how the charts would look best to any specific person. My big issue with Gallup method is that it assumes sales patterns almost thirty years earlier and during a very volatile period of music - Birth of rock Beatles etc - would mirror those patterns from the baseline decades later. Unless I misunderstand the writeups that said 1983 was the baseline,

As I said though, I'm here for the side by side data presentation and that is awesome. So thank you.

The side by side chart data is good for reference MAPL and it is much more accurate here than in some recent books that aspire to present the same information, so I'm really happy that you enjoy this aspect of the thread and sincerely thank you for following it.

As for Gallup, I would agree to disagree, if you look closely you will see that the Gallup Points system chart position outcome does not differ greatly from Inverse Points results. This proves it works similarly, BUT by using sales related data we believe it is just as relevant for this time frame and the sixties to come because it fine tunes the chart much more effectively than Inverse Points does, as Inverse Points for example advocates a #1 record sells ten times more than a #10 record, or, thirty times more than a #30 record which clearly isn't the case. The Gallup system is closer to reality which in the absence of the actual sales figures week on week which we will never get now is at least as close to sales related as is possible.

[Splodj]

It might be worth mentioning that the two newspaper sales surveys in the 60s show a profile more akin to Gallup than Inverse. The Sun number 2 sold 74% of the number 1, and the Mail 55%. Individual snapshots can be misleading, but they indicate that the curve - rather than the straight line - sales profile goes back well beyond the 80s.

[kingofskiffle]

Yes, and individual weeks came skew the data - in 1997 Millward Brown issued two sets of market reports as if they included Candle In The Wind 97 it would skew the entire graphs as that record sold more in the last 4 months of the year than some artists manage in a 50 year career!

The way the data was gathered was to take the entire 1983 sales year and take an average of all weeks to gain an average number 1 sales, an average number 2 sales, etc and from that the various ratios where devised. It should also be noted that if we take the same for 1973 (another year where we have some info on sales) the same rough comparison is true - give or take a percentage or two. The sales curve really is an exponential one, as can be seen in this scan - I forget entirely which book it is from but was issued in 1976 I believe - the chart in question shown is 8 May 1976.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/959mxx8obg...t%201.jpg?dl=0

[Splodj]

So the number 1 album sold about the same as the number 4 single. In the Mail tally the number 1 album sold just more than the number 6.

I agree with Robbie's comment that LPs in the NMEs singles chart were just "a few dealers reporting the album and NME then not filtering those entries out", at least in the 60s, and that therefore it is completely correct that albums are not included in DMPC.

[braindeadpj]

While it is true that the Gallup Points system assumes that the sales pattern fro 1983 is the same as for the 50/60s, in general, the sales pattern does resemble this system rather than an inverse points system. For instance, Chartwatch have adjusted their points system for every decade since 1980, but while the actual values may differ, the general ratio for each positions follow a relatively similar pattern as used here. It is likely an exponential curve rather than a straight line as asumed by an inverse system.