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  • #61
    Awesome! Thanks HolidayGuy

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    • #62
      ^No problem.

      For acts on the "most" lists, I include these numbers, with an asterisk next to the number.
      http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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      • #63
        Four firsts for this week's charts; updated in the running post.
        http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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        • #64
          The list is updated with the 10/29 info- in the end, Melissa Etheridge's album missed the top 10.
          http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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          • #65
            Wow, Melissa usually never misses the top 10.

            Looks like nothing new for #1 this week's as Green Day takes Sales and SPS

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            • #66
              Another week in which No. 1s are the same on Album Sales and the multi-metric chart.

              Three acts, whose new albums do not rank in the multi-metric top 10, score their first top 10-selling albums this week. The post on this page is updated.
              http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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              • #67
                The same album holds down the top spot on Album Sales and the multi-metric chart this week, but there are three titles ranking top 10 in sales that aren't on the multi-metric chart. 2016 post updated above.
                http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                • #68
                  Looks like it's going to be that way next week as well.

                  Kenny Chesney has a commanding lead on both Sales and SPS numbers.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by stevyy
                    yes, people can claim all they want how albums are obsolete these days and everything is about streaming. They did the same in the 2000's claiming that singles sales are obsolete and only download sales would matter.

                    The media agrees. Nobody is celebrating a huge seller, all they want is streamed singles. BB is claiming sales for Rihanna are approaching 300 million, TEA, SPS and what not. The matter of fact is, that everybody has access to something that is free, but before the internet only paying customers had access to something which was available for a price.

                    The market today is the globe, the market before 1998 was retail.

                    The best selling acts should indeed be measured by sales. Then we need to differentiate between digital and physical and then between consumption and purchased.

                    Combining all aspects gives a wrong picture. Rihanna has not sold 260m records, maybe in consumption value... However, consumption for older acts cannot be measured due to the fact that nobody cared to measure it in the past.

                    The fact that sales are dead has nothing to do with the people, but with the industry itself outlawing sales, making them become indifferent to measure popularity while they are the #1 source for popularity. Because in my book, sales reflect the willingness of people to giving time and person resouces to music, streaming only requires time.

                    Only because we are living in a digital world, doesnt mean that we should forget about the times b4 that.
                    I don't think any of this is about forgetting the times that came before now. And I don't think choosing to "own" something should be seen as superior to "renting" or "streaming" something. Ultimately they are all legal ways to listen to the music we like. I do feel like there's an underlying reason some of us take strong issue with SEA/TEA inclusion and some of us don't. It's even been said out loud - being fans of veteran acts who peaked in a completely different time and space leaves some of us feeling like it's unfair. These same acts have a very difficult time on the Hot 100, so the BB200 was the one place where fans could get their veteran artist to #1 for a week. I get it. On the flip, if SEA and TEA didn't exist right now, do any of us honestly think that a new Madonna album with zero hit singles is more popular than Drake's album with multiple hits? Even if it happened to have a few more hard sales? Personally, I think the lack of streaming/track sales options would push Drake to #1 on sales, but that's obviously subjective.

                    While I agree that it is unfair - impossible, even - to compare the success of an album from 1976 to one from 1996 to one from 2016.... that's never been the point of weekly charts. They've always been a snapshot of one week's time, under it's own current set of chart rules - very of-the-moment. One set of rules for one week. Period. As chart fans, we love to make lists and stack and compare things next to one another over the weeks/months/years/decades, but that wasn't even "fair" back when album sales were strictly album sales. It's just a survey which can be (and has been) manipulated in many different ways. There's NEVER been a completely level playing field and nothing is apples to apples, even if one given week. Discounts, promotion/marketing budget, product availability, concert ticket bundles, etc... all of these things play a role in manipulating the playing field in any given week. I feel like for some of us, we feel like the act of purchasing an album is somehow superior to streaming it. And this is where I think it gets hairy, and when we all instinctually want to cling to our own "when I was a kid" mentalities and not let go.

                    We are in the middle of a fairly drastic change in the way music is consumed and therefore how its success is measured and compared in any given week. Ultimately, in my opinion, retail music sales are going to be a thing of the past at some point in the not too distant future. The internet and the "digital music file" have made it to easy to consume and share music - so easy that it's literally free, even if technically illegal in many cases, and so widespread that it's impossible to put an end to piracy and unlicensed sharing. And aside from all this, it appears that more and more people are choosing to stream music (paid subscription or free) than to shell out money to own it. This is ultimately HELPING the industry in many ways, namely by adding SOME revenue to what is otherwise a free for all.

                    Is adding track sales and streams to retail sales figures "right"? I don't know. Nobody does. But when there's such a huge fundamental shift in the way music is being consumed, action is required to track it so that it represents the HERE AND NOW - not worrying about how it contrasts with the past and the conflicts it causes for historians.

                    I get the sentiment and reasoning behind this thread, I really do. And, like the charts themselves, these feelings some of us have are very "of the moment" and not invalid ... but at some point this point of view will be so far removed from the reality of what is happening, it won't matter. It all kinda whiffs of trying to hold onto the past - prolonging the chart glory of artists that aren't benefitting from a new, youth-driven business model. The crazy thing is, it's ALWAYS been a youth-driven (not exclusively, but the largest segment) business model and artists' mainstream success has always come and gone - or at least peaked and faded. It's just the way it goes. Out with the old, in with the new. Some people finally have given up on their cassette tapes and have moved on to CDs, some never stopped consuming their favorite music by way of vinyl. It can take decades before some people are willing to change with the times.

                    Is it annoying to see fans of today's streaming artists compare them to the successes of massive global superstars of the 80s and 90s? YES. Totally annoying. But, in fairness, artists who dominated in the 80s and 90s had what those before them did not... the music video along with a major music video outlet. This added a whole new way to promote an artist and their work, which has stuck around and grown into a legitimate form of music consumption. These same artists also benefitted from increased radio station counts and larger audiences. I say all this because certain things may not seem "fair" or "right" now, but in time things will be so different, there will be no reason to try and fight it. Things were as they were. They are as they are. Everything is a product of its own time.

                    I'll end with this - say the BB200 was still album-sales only. And say sales continued to decline as they have been. Say streaming continued to grow like it has been. In order for the concept of a music album to survive, it needs to generate revenue - it needs to be a worthwhile investment for the label, artist and consumer. The industry - collectively - has to either try and convert itself with the new "streaming" generation, or run the risk of losing everything. At what point are some of us willing to concede that times have changed/are changing and album sales aren't the same as they used to be, with or without track sales and streaming included? The album as we knew it as it relates to the charts is a dying breed. For me, it's fun to discuss the charts each week and the differences in the times and the achievements of the artists in different eras - but apparently that's not enough. It seems for some to be more about hanging on to this notion of trying to keep the cross-generational playing field "fair" - when it never really was to begin with.

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                    • #70
                      The fairest thing is to compare positions, and chart feats, on Top Album Sales, to those pre-December 2014. The inclusion of TEA and streaming, essentially, has made it apples-to-oranges comparisons of ranks and feats on the multi-metric chart vs. what the BB 200 used to be.

                      In any event, were back to dual No. 1s this week, as Kenny Chesney scores his eighth No. 1-selling album. Once we ave the official top 10 sales rankings, I will update the running list on this page.
                      http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                      • #71
                        Aside from Kenny Chesney scoring his eighth No. 1-selling album this week, three acts reach the top 10 for the first time, including a band that has been recording since the 1980s.
                        http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                        • #72
                          Question, why don't they convert number of of singles sold into one album sold?
                          Celine Marie Claudette Tanguay Dion-Angelil, #BestSellingArtistofthe90s #TheGreatestCanadian #SaviorofLasVegas #QueenofThemeSongs

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                          • #73
                            ^On the multi-metric chart, 10 singles sold= 1 album.

                            This week, Garth brooks and Trisha Yearwood score new top 10-selling albums, as does Joe. Running list is updated (with a note about Brooks).
                            http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                            • #74
                              Okay the list has been updated, with Garth scoring a phantom #1 seller. That has been indicated with an *.

                              He almost took the SPS column as well, but the box isn't available for streaming services (I assume).

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                              • #75
                                Billboard 200 should just be a revenue chart and remain relevant forever without any changes in the future.
                                Right now it's only partly relevant, but it would be completely irrelevant without streaming.

                                Very well explained:
                                Originally posted by iHypeMusic
                                By the time I'm 40s+, I assume the #12 selling album won't even be selling 3K (it already struggles to sell 10K, when you'd need 50K+ to be #12 in 2000) so trust me, I won't be angry over 3K sales not being significantly counted in the chart. As I said, in 2016 major labels are making more from Streaming than physical & digital sales.



                                Streaming in future decades will end up making almost all of labels money, be the main way of consuming music by the entire country, and you guys will still be complaining how it shouldn't count to determine popularity lol. It's ridiculous.

                                Shifts and evolution come in the music industry, and this is one and the industry has already adjusted. Denying the evolution of the music industry just because 'an age group that isn't yours is being more represented' isn't even a legitimate reason, especially since Streaming is new... thus meaning, in the future the older generations will eventually start using it heavily too therefore it isn't 'one age group being represented unfairly'. How much of the older generation do you think was using iTunes in 2005/2006 when it was relatively new? Now in 2016, everybody at one point period has had iTunes and it's used throughout all age groups.
                                Gone.

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                                • #76
                                  No No. 1/top 10 exclusives this week in Album Sales, but I removed the Garth Brooks/Trisha Yearwood listing from 12/3/16, as that climbed to the top 10 on the multi-metric chart this week.
                                  http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                  • #77
                                    I'm baffled reading all the stuff from last pages. Why compare 80s to the 10s? it's a popularity chart. Just deal with it. When there are over 100 million streams of an album yet people want that 30,000 selling CD to top the chart is absurd in this day and age. I would like to see Metallica's new set to go Diamond as basically some people here underestimate the "teens". I'm not defending Billboard but it's just a matter of common sense. Germany's charts based on Profits is probably a great thing but that would create conflicts in a market where there are discounts ever week and many factors aside but that's a great chart but saying that an album that is being streamed by millions should not be reflected in the charts is absurd. I have accepted that since last year. Do people here really think people from the 70s and 80s not be smart enough to pay 9$ a month and get whatever music they wanted? what makes them think they would have acted differently. Some people should be thanking streaming since it's at least getting money from people who would never pay a cent anyways, whether through their phone bills or a discounted subscription (school student discounts ) etc.

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                                    • #78
                                      After a few weeks with no album sales/multi-metric discrepancies in terms of chart feats, we have a couple of notable feats this week- post updated on prior page.
                                      http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                      • #79
                                        I removed Garth Brooks' entry from 12/31/16 on the prior page, as his boxset climbed to the top 10 on the Jan. 7 multi-metric chart.
                                        http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                        • #80
                                          Time to start the 2017 list.

                                          Albums Peaking at No. 1/Top 10 Exclusively on Top Album Sales
                                          (not doing so on the multi-metric chart)

                                          2017
                                          1/21/17
                                          The Moana soundtrack hits No. 1.

                                          1/28/17
                                          The La La Land soundtrack hits No. 1
                                          Halestorm scores its second top 10-selling album with ReAniMate 3.0: The CoVeRs eP (No. 5)

                                          2/4/17
                                          The xx scores its first No. 1-selling album with I See You
                                          Danny Gokey scores his second top 10-selling album with Rise (No. 10)

                                          2/11/17
                                          John Mayer scores his fourth No. 1-selling title with The Search for Everything: Wave One (EP)
                                          Starset scores its first top 10-selling album with Vessels (No. 3)
                                          The Grammy Nominees series scores a top 10-selling title with 2017 Grammy Nominees (No. 5)
                                          The Kidz Bop Kids series scores a top 10-selling title with Kidz Bop Kidz 34 (No. 6)

                                          2/18/17
                                          Brantley Gilbert scores his first No. 1-selling album with The Devil Dont Sleep
                                          Bell Biv Devoe scores its second top-10 selling album with Three Stripes (No. 7)
                                          Brian & Jenn Johnson scores its first top-10 selling album with After All These Years (No. 8)
                                          Grateful Dead scores its third top 10-selling album with Dave's Picks, Volume 21: Boston Garden, Boston, MA 4/2/73 (No. 10)

                                          2/25/17
                                          Kari Jobe scores her second top 10-selling album with The Garden (No. 7)

                                          3/4/17
                                          Joy Villa scores her first top 10-selling title with I Make the Static (EP) (No. 6)

                                          3/18/17
                                          John Mayer scores his ninth top 10-selling title with The Search For Everything: Wave Two (EP) (No. 7)

                                          4/1/17
                                          Josh Turner scores his fifth top 10-selling album with Deep South (No. 7)
                                          The Shins scores its third top 10-selling album with Heartworms (No. 8)

                                          4/8/17
                                          Elevation Worship scores its second top 10-selling album with There is a Cloud (No. 6)
                                          Spoon scores its fourth top 10-selling album with Hot Thoughts (No. 9)

                                          4/15/17
                                          RaeLynn scores her first top 10-selling album with Wildhorse (No. 9)

                                          4/22/17
                                          Mastodon scores its first No. 1-selling album with Emperor of Sand
                                          Demon Hunter scores its first top 10-selling album with Outlive (No. 8)

                                          4/29/17
                                          Bethel Music scores its fourth top 10-selling album with Starlight (No. 9)

                                          5/13/17
                                          Barry Manilow scores his top 16th 10-selling album with This Is My Town: Songs Of New York (No. 4)
                                          Brad Paisley scores his 10th top 10-selling album with Love And War (No. 5)
                                          Sheryl Crow scores her 10th top 10-selling album with Be Myself (No. 8)

                                          5/20/17
                                          Gorillaz scores its first No. 1-selling album with Humanz
                                          John Mellencamp scores his 11th top 10-selling album with Sad Clowns & Hillbillies (No. 5)
                                          Lea Michele scores her second top 10-selling album with Places (No. 10)

                                          5/27/17
                                          Chris Stapleton scores his second No. 1-selling album with From A Room: Volume 1
                                          The Now franchise scores another top 10-selling album with Now 62 (No. 5)
                                          Diana Krall scores her seventh top 10-selling album with Turn Up the Quiet (No. 7)
                                          Grateful Dead scores its fourth top 10-selling album with Barton Hall, Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY, May 8, 1977 (No. 10)

                                          6/3/17
                                          Seether scores its fifth top 10-selling album with Poison the Parish (No. 8)
                                          New Kids on the Block scores its seventh top 10-selling title with Thankful (EP) (No. 9)
                                          The Bob's Burgers Music Album soundtrack hits the top 10 (No. 10)

                                          6/10/17
                                          Rascal Flatts scores its 10th top 10-selling album with Back to Us (No. 5)
                                          Papa Roach scores its fourth top 10-selling album with Crooked Teeth (No. 9)

                                          6/17/17
                                          Shakira scores her sixth top 10-selling album with El Dorado (No. 6)

                                          6/24/17
                                          Roger Waters scores his first top 10-selling (solo) album with Is This the Life We Really Want? (No. 4)
                                          Alt J scores his second top 10-selling album with Relaxer (No. 6)
                                          The Steven Universe, Vol. 1 soundtrack hits No. 10

                                          7/1/17
                                          Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie each score their first top 10-selling solo album with Lindsey Buckingham / Christine McVie (No. 6)
                                          Rancid lands its first top 10-selling album with Trouble Maker (No. 8)
                                          The Now franchise scores another top 10-selling title with NOW That's What I Call Country Volume 10 - Various Artists (No. 9)
                                          Hillsong UNITED scores its third top 10-selling album with Wonder (No. 10)

                                          7/15/17
                                          Imagine Dragons scores its second No. 1-selling album with Evolve
                                          Vince Staples scores his first top 10-selling album with Big Fish Theory (No. 7)

                                          7/22/17
                                          Stone Sour scores its first No. 1-selling album with Hydrograd
                                          The Baby Driver soundtrack hits the top 10 (No. 6)

                                          7/29/17
                                          Radiohead scores its seventh top 10-selling album with OK Computer: OKNOTOK 1997 2017 (No. 4)

                                          8/5/17
                                          Coldplay scores its seventh top 10-selling title with Kaleidoscope EP (No. 6)
                                          The Kidz Bop Kids series scores a top 10-selling title with Kidz Bop Kidz 35 (No. 8)

                                          8/12/17
                                          Nine Inch Nails scores its seventh top 10-selling title with Add Violence (EP) (No. 8)
                                          In This Moment scores its second top 10-selling album with Ritual (No. 9)

                                          8/19/17
                                          Grateful Dead scores its fifth top 10-selling album with Dave's Picks, Volume 23: McArthur Court, U. Of Oregon, Eugene, OR - 1/22/78 (No. 4)
                                          Alice Cooper scores his second top 10-selling album (fifth, if counting three credited to the Alice Cooper Band) with [Paranormal[/i] (No. 6)
                                          Manchester Orchestra scores its first top 10-selling album with A Black Mile To The Surface (No. 7)

                                          8/26/17
                                          Brett Eldredge scores his first No. 1-selling album with Brett Eldredge
                                          Kenny Wayne Shepard Band scores its top 10-selling album with Lay it on Down (No. 5)

                                          9/2/17
                                          Lindsay Ell scores her first top 10-selling album with The Project (No. 7)

                                          9/9/17
                                          Grizzly Bear scores its third top 10-selling album with Painted Ruins (No. 5)

                                          9/16/17
                                          Tasha Cobbs Leonard scores her first top 10-selling album with Heart. Passion. Pursuit. (No. 9)
                                          PVRIS scores its first top 10-selling album with All We Know of Heaven, All We Need of Hell (No. 10)

                                          9/23/17
                                          Steve Winwood scores his fourth top 10-selling album with Winwood: Greatest Hits Live (No. 8)

                                          9/30/17
                                          Greg Allman scores his second top 10-selling album with Southern Blood (No. 5)
                                          Neil Young scores his 11th top 10-selling album with Hitchhiker (No. 8)
                                          Tori Amos scores her ninth top 10-selling album with Native Invader (No. 9)
                                          Toby Keith scores his 16th top 10-selling album with The Bus Songs (No. 10)

                                          10/7/17
                                          Prophets of Rage scores its first top 10-selling album with Prophets of Rage (No. 4)
                                          Nothing More scores its first top 10-selling album with The Stories We Tell Ourselves (No. 5)
                                          Superfruit scores its first top 10-selling album with Future Friends (No. 9)

                                          10/14/17
                                          Lecrae scores his fourth top 10-selling album with All Things Work Together (No. 3)
                                          Van Morrison scores his fourth top 10-selling album with Roll With the Punches (No. 5)
                                          Midland scores its first top 10-selling album with On the Rocks (No. 6)
                                          Home Free scores its first top 10-selling album with Timeless (No. 7)
                                          Circa Survive scores its first top 10-selling album with The Amulet (No. 8)
                                          Fergie scores her second top 10-selling album with Double Dutchess (No. 9)

                                          10/21/17
                                          Tamar Braxton scores her third top 10-selling album with Bluebird Of Happiness (No. 5)
                                          Primus scores its third top 10-selling album with The Desaturating Seven (No. 6)
                                          Pearl Jam scores its 11th top 10-selling album with Let's Play Two: Live At Wrigley Field (Soundtrack) (No. 8)
                                          Tank scores his sixth top 10-selling album with Savage (No. 9)
                                          David Gilmour scores his third top 10-selling album with Live At Pompeii (No. 10)

                                          10/28/17
                                          August Burns Red scores its third top 10-selling album with Phantom Anthem (No. 5)
                                          Liam Gallagher scores his first top 10-selling solo album with As You Were (No. 8)
                                          The Black Dahlia Murder scores its first top 10-selling album with Nightbringers (No. 9)

                                          11/4/17
                                          Robert Plant scores his ninth top 10-selling album as a solo artist (includes collaborative titles which he's billed) with Carry Fire (No. 4)
                                          Wu-Tang scores its fourth top 10-selling album with The Saga Continues (No. 6)
                                          Jessie James Decker scores her first top 10-selling album with Southern Girl City Lights (No. 7)
                                          The Dirty Heads scores its second top 10-selling album with Swim Team (No. 9)

                                          11/11/17
                                          The Turnpike Troubadours scores its first top 10-selling album with A Long Way From Your Heart (No. 5)
                                          Trivium scores its top 10-selling album with The Sin And The Sentence (No. 7)
                                          Lindsey Stirling scores her third top 10-selling album with Warmer In The Winter (No. 9; later hit No. 7)

                                          11/18/17
                                          Ninja Sex Party scores its second top 10-selling album with Under The Covers, Volume II (No. 4)
                                          Hollywood Undead scores its third top 10-selling album with Five (No. 7)
                                          The Piano Guys scores its second top 10-selling album with Christmas Together (No. 8)
                                          Weezer scores its ninth top 10-selling album with Pacific Daydream (No. 9)
                                          Theory Of A Deadman scores its third top 10-selling album with Wake Up Call (No. 10)

                                          11/25/17
                                          The Now franchise scores another top 10-selling title with NOW That's What I Call Music 64- Various Artists (No. 7)
                                          Grace VanderWaal scores her second top 10-selling title with Just the Beginning (No. 10)

                                          12/9/17
                                          Bob Seger scores his third top 10-selling solo album (11th, counting releases with the Silver Bullet Band) with I Knew You When (No. 10)

                                          12/16/17
                                          Gwen Stefani scores her fourth top 10-selling album with You Make It Feel Like Christmas (No. 9)
                                          Last edited by HolidayGuy; Tue July 9th, 2019, 20:30.
                                          http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                          • #81
                                            Okay, the front page has been updated.

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                                            • #82
                                              La La Land has hit the top 10 on the multi-metric chart, thus I removed it from the 1/21 entry. But, it's the No. 1-selling album for the 1/28 charts, thus that feat is listed for 1/28.
                                              http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                              • #83
                                                The xx lands this week's top-selling album, marking, I believe, the 23rd title to be the No. 1-selling album in the country, and not rank No. 1 on the multi-metric chart.
                                                http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                • #84
                                                  Added Danny Gokey to the 2/.4 info. And this week, John Mayer scores his fourth No. 1 title.
                                                  http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                  • #85
                                                    Brantley Gilbert has this week's top-selling album- other tidbits in the 2017 post.
                                                    http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                    • #86
                                                      This week, Contemporary Christian artist Kari Jobe lands in the sales top 10 for a second time in her career.

                                                      I also added the previously overlooked Run the Jewels to the 2017 entries,
                                                      http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                      • #87
                                                        Thanks in part to a certain dress, Joy Villa scores her first top 10 entry this week.
                                                        http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                        • #88
                                                          John Mayer scores a ninth top-10 selling title this week; 2017 post updated.
                                                          http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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                                                          • #89
                                                            Looks like this week, I'll be adding Metallica/Ed Sheeran to the mix.

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                                                            • #90
                                                              At least Metallica hit No. 1 on both the sales and multi-metric charts.

                                                              This week, Josh Turner and The Shins lands Album Sales-exclusive top 10s; 2017 post is updated.
                                                              http://www.poconorecord.com/entertai...-madame-x-tour

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