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  • Final Cash Box C&W and R&B charts

    Been working on this for almost 4 years but now they are done!

    Here's Cash Box Country (1947-1996).xlsx
    https://ufile.io/nnjhjybl

    and Cash Box Country Looking Ahead (1990-1994).xls
    https://ufile.io/29uebgg3

    Putting the final touches on the R&B charts now

  • #2
    Thanks DrTravel, most appreciated!

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    • #3
      Excellent Work DrTravel. Thanks!

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      • #4
        Thank you, DrTravel
        trebor's - 2016 in Country Music
        trebor's - 2015 in Country Music

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        • #5
          Thanks a lot DrTravel. What will you do with your spare time now?

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          • #6
            Here's the final Cashbox National RnB (1953-1996).xlsx

            https://ufile.io/8lxremr1

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            • #7
              Super DrTravel

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              • #8
                Thanks for another respectable achievement DrTravel. I’ll use the info to complete my files on NON-Billboard US country @ RnB hits.

                Would you by any means happen to have the Record World LP chart page 101-200 for the 1977 September 24 issue?

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                • #9
                  Thanks again Dr T, you ROCK !!

                  Some RnB notes for you youngsters out there:

                  --Billboard did not publish RnB singles charts from Nov-3-63 to Jan-23-65. Joel Whitburn says in his Billboard 'Top RnB Singles 1942-1999' book that it is his understanding that there was so much crossover of records between between the RnB and pop singles charts that they were too similar. So for this missing time period, Joel picked out the RnB records that hit the Billboard pop singles chart, and put those in his RnB book, that is for this 1942-99 book, the last one I have. I don't know what he did on later versions of his RnB singles book, maybe the same thing, maybe something different. I guess he could have/should have tried using the CashBox RnB singles charts for this missing time period, that would have made the most sense.

                  --Likewise, Billboard did not publish RnB album charts from Aug-26-72 to Oct-7-72. Joel didn't substitute any data for this 7 week time period.

                  Zappy Gnu Year !!

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                  • #10
                    In the latest R and B book Joel includes the CashBox charts for that period. Incidentally, Billboard weekly charts on their website also use the same cashbox charts for that period without mentioning they are CashBox !
                    http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                    Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kjell View Post
                      Thanks for another respectable achievement DrTravel. I’ll use the info to complete my files on NON-Billboard US country @ RnB hits.

                      Would you by any means happen to have the Record World LP chart page 101-200 for the 1977 September 24 issue?
                      I presume you meant The LP chart for Positions 101-200 which oddly is two different charts. I don't do chart requests because I need to call in favors and I reserve those for my projects. I will do a ONE TIME exception for you:

                      https://ufile.io/gdojci2l

                      https://ufile.io/yrtoxguy

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
                        Thanks again Dr T, you ROCK !!

                        I don't know what he did on later versions of his RnB singles book, maybe the same thing, maybe something different. I guess he could have/should have tried using the CashBox RnB singles charts for this missing time period, that would have made the most sense.

                        Lonnie is correct that Whitburn uses the Cash Box RnB in his latest book - he notated it in his preface although he doesn't differentiate chart data in the song listings. In my Billboard RnB spreadsheets I included the Cash Box charts for this period - I had them before they were available on-line.


                        Note that Cash Box stopped publishing their RnB charts March 12, 1960 thru December 10, 1960. The problem was that the sources they utilized to compile their charts were not necessarily solely R&B orientated outlets. So many records produced by "White" folks that happened to be sold in these stores made the RnB charts. Cash Box caught on to this fact earlier than Billboard, but when they reintroduced their charts made adjustments. One of many things Cash Box did before Billboard.


                        Notice that the current Billboard genre charts (i.e. C&W and Hip-Hop/R&B) are despised by many for almost the same logic. In fact, Whitburn now uses the C&W Airplay chart instead of the main C&W chart. He should do the same for the R&B chart. My C&W and R&B spreadsheets include both charts - the main one and the Airplay charts.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks again DrTravel. I knew you don’t do chart requests so I just hoped for this one-off. I remembered you once wrote that you possibly might be doing LPs, so I guessed you also had the LP charts from the issues you got hold of searching for singles charts. I admire the precision and scope of your work. Have you considered the Music Reporter?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DrTravel View Post
                            Here's the final Cashbox National RnB (1953-1996).xlsx

                            https://ufile.io/8lxremr1
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ozapata2002 View Post

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                              cashbox-national-rnb-1953-1996
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