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  • Originally posted by BoroButch

    Week Ending 6 December 1969


    Week Ending 27 December 1969

    1(1)Two Little Boys(by Rolf Harris) 6 wks
    2(2)Ruby Don't Take Your Love To Town(by Kenny Rogers And The First Edition) 10 wks
    3(3)Sugar Sugar(by The Archies) 13 wks
    3(3)Yester-Me, Yester-You, Yesterday(by Stevie Wonder) 7 wks
    5(5)Melting Pot(by Blue Mink) 6 wks
    6(6)Suspicious Mind(by Elvis Presley) 5 wks
    7(7)Winter World Of Love(by Engelbert Humperdinck) 7 wks
    8(8)(Call Me) Number One(by The Tremeloes) 9 wks
    9(9)Onion Song(by Marvin Gaye And Tammi Terrell) 7 wks
    10(10)All I Have To Do Is Dream(by Bobbie Gentry And Glen Campbell) 4 wks
    11(11)Something(by The Beatles) 8 wks
    12(12)Tracy(by Cuff Links) 5 wks
    13(13)Leavin' (Durham Town)(by Roger Whittaker) 7 wks
    14(14)Love Is All(by Malcolm Roberts) 6 wks
    15(15)Liquidator(by Harry J And The All Stars) 12 wks
    16(16)Oh Well(by Fleetwood Mac) 13 wks
    17(17)Wonderful World, Beautiful People(by Jimmy Cliff) 11 wks
    18(18)Sweet Dream(by Jethro Tull) 9 wks
    19(19)Green River(by Creedence Clearwater Revival) 7 wks
    20(20)Without Love(by Tom Jones) 4 wks
    21(21)Nobody's Child(by Karen Young) 15 wks
    22(22)Return Of Django(by The Upsetters) 14 wks
    23(23)Play Good Old Rock N' Roll(by The Dave Clark Five) 4 wks
    24(24)Loneliness(by Des O'Connor) 6 wks
    25(25)Highway Song(by Nancy Sinatra) 5 wks
    26(26)Love's Been Good To Me(by Frank Sinatra) 12 wks
    27(27)What Does It Take(by Junior Walker And The All Stars) 11 wks
    28(28)Biljo(by Clodagh Rodgers) 7 wks
    29(29)But You Love Me Daddy(by Jim Reeves) 2 wks
    30(30)I Miss You Baby(by Marv Johnson) 10 wks
    31(31)If I Thought You'd Change Your Mind(by Cilla Black) 2 wks
    32(32)Cold Turkey(by Plastic Ono Band) 9 wks
    33(33)Someday We'll Be Together(by Diana Ross And The Supremes) 2 wks
    34(34)With The Eyes Of A Child(by Cliff Richard) 4 wks
    35(35)Proud Mary(by Checkmates Ltd) 8 wks
    36(36)Skinhead Moon Stomp(by Symarip) 6 wks
    37(37)I'll Never Fall In Love Again(by Bobbie Gentry) 17 wks
    38(38)Here Comes The Star(by Herman's Hermits) 8 wks
    39(39)I'm A Man(by Chicago) 2 wks
    39(39)Comin' Home(by Delaney And Bonnie And Friends) 3 wks
    41(41)Seventh Son(by Georgie Fame) 2 wks
    42(42)Hitchin' A Ride(by Vanity Fare) 2 wks
    43(43)Whole Lotta Love(by Led Zeppelin) 2 wks
    44(44)One Million Years(by Robin Gibb) 2 wks
    44(44)I'm Gonna Make You Mine(by Lou Christie) 15 wks
    46(46)Take Some Time Out For Love(by The Isley Brothers) 2 wks
    46(46)Teresa(by Joe Dolan) 8 wks
    48(48)Superstar(by Murray Head) 2 wks
    49(49)Eli's Comin'(by 3 Dog Night) 2 wks
    49(49)That's The Way Love Is(by Marvin Gaye) 3 wks
    Those last charts of MM (1968 and 1969) show a top 50, however MM only listed top 30's at least from September 6 to the end of 1969.
    What is the reason for this

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    • Originally posted by gerrit
      Those last charts of MM (1968 and 1969) show a top 50, however MM only listed top 30's at least from September 6 to the end of 1969.
      What is the reason for this
      Melody Maker believed that there was strong evidence of records being bought in to the chart (that is, they were being hyped in to the chart) and in a front page article in 1968 explained that in order to counter this that from that point on they would only be publishing a top 30 although they would still compile a top 50, presumably so they could keep a check on potential false sales patterns for records below number 30.

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      • Re: Melody Maker 1960's (and 50's) singles charts

        It was April 1967 that MM announced they were cutting published chart back to a top 30 -though they still compiled a top 50 to regulate it. The MM top 50 was published in Trade mag "Music Business Weekly" from Sept 1969 to Feb 1971 after that `Disc` ran MM top 50 to April 1971 when MM only compiled and published a top 30 thereafter.

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        • Good to see you back Alan. Your info from the third quarter of the last century is always welcome.

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          • Re: Melody Maker 1960's (and 50's) singles charts

            Thank you Kjell. I have been quiet recently as my Mom died in May and I have really missed her.

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            • Originally posted by asm
              Thank you Kjell. I have been quiet recently as my Mom died in May and I have really missed her.
              Sorry to read about your mum asm, I had wondered why you hadn't posted recently.

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              • My condolence Alan. I know you did your best to take care of her.

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                • Originally posted by asm
                  Thank you Kjell. I have been quiet recently as my Mom died in May and I have really missed her.
                  Sorry to hear about that Alan. My condolence to you at this time.
                  http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                  Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                  • Re: Melody Maker 1960's (and 50's) singles charts

                    Thank you!

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                    • Originally posted by BoroButch View Post

                      Week Ending 25 March 1967

                      39 ( NE) 00 - Not Printed This Week (by 00 - Not Printed This Week) 1 wk
                      I'm really curious about this... I saw a reference to this in another thread, claiming that the position in question was omitted due to hyping. I've read before that the lower positions in the Melody Maker chart suffered from this a lot, leading to the chart being cut down to a top 30 a week after this chart was published. However, I find it quite baffling that they didn't promote the records in the bottom 11 positions to replace the removed single.

                      In the thread in question, it was guessed that the removed single would have been "Love Makes Sweet Music" by Soft Machine. However, looking at the magazines on World Radio History, this doesn't seem to be the case. While the song itself wasn't listed on the original chart, they did include it in the list of publishers – the song at #39 was published by "Contemporary". None of the songs in the previous magazine list this publisher, meaning that it would have been a new entry ("Schroeder/Anim" was listed for LMSM).

                      Based on a quick look at Discogs, I can find the following 1967 UK singles published by Contemporary Music:

                      "Hi-Ho Silver Lining" (recordings by The Attack and Jeff Beck)
                      "On Love" (Skip Bifferty)
                      "Last Minute" (The Nashville Teens, B-side – A-side published by Schroeder)
                      "Someone That I Used to Know" (Brenda May, B-side – A-side published by Bourne Music)

                      Based on 45cat, the latter three were only released in August 1967 or later (and two of them aren't even the intended A-sides). So could "Hi-Ho Silver Lining" have been the single in question? Based on another recent post, it seems to fit...

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                      • Don Arden was determined to get Jeff Beck into the charts. Beck record did NOT start selling (by the public buying it) till week ending 29 April 1967. By which time it was in all of the singles charts and in all the top 30's and some top twenties the week before that. Proving that if you wished you could break into the top 20 on some charts without the public buying a single copy. The Attack version was the one that was selling to the public and came out before Jeff Beck.
                        But nobody argued with Don Arden, he was Sharon Osbourne's dad and you wouldn't argue with her would you!
                        Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                        • Originally posted by Graham76man View Post
                          Don Arden was determined to get Jeff Beck into the charts. Beck record did NOT start selling (by the public buying it) till week ending 29 April 1967. By which time it was in all of the singles charts and in all the top 30's and some top twenties the week before that. Proving that if you wished you could break into the top 20 on some charts without the public buying a single copy. The Attack version was the one that was selling to the public and came out before Jeff Beck.
                          But nobody argued with Don Arden, he was Sharon Osbourne's dad and you wouldn't argue with her would you!
                          It's incredible that the charts could be manipulated to that extent – I've heard of other singles reaching the charts with low sales, but charting with no copies sold must have been pretty rare. Though it has happened in other countries too, even the US (one example being D.A.'s "Ready 'n' Steady" bubbling under without any kind of commercial release, as a result of which it took decades for anyone to track it down). I noticed that "Hi-Ho Silver Lining" also debuted on two other charts in the same week – #36 in Disc and #45 in Record Retailer. Unlike Melody Maker, they don't seem to have realized what was going on.

                          David Bowie with the Lower Third had another famous Melody Maker "hit" charting mostly due to hyping – "Can't Help Thinking About Me" is very rare (and expensive!) these days. There were probably many more in the lower positions. "Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead" by Wayne Gibson and the Dynamic Sounds appears to be quite rare, for example – the single version doesn't even seem to be available for listening online (just a supposedly earlier "alternate version").

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                          • Actually they were being bought, just not by Joe Public, they were bought by the record company people knowing the record shops who took part in the charts and buying up several hundred copies in them. You could also get the staff who produced the list of 50 records for the chart people to add stuff that wasn't selling by offering bribes etc.
                            Some people in the business had scruples, and wouldn't push records past 20, but others like Joe Meek for instance, admitted to buying up records.
                            You could buy a list of all the chart shops taking part very easily.
                            I did read of one record charting that hadn't even been issued that week. But I can't remember which.
                            By the 70's hyping was common and one record rep told me that the even hyped the Hollies - A Long Cool Woman into the charts!
                            Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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