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  • I'm sorry but how do you magically find 7 million album sales that weren't counted? LMAO.

    That is a massive amount of albums, literally humongous. No label goes for decades magically not noticing 7 million sales weren't counted for a top-selling album they consistently recertify.

    The new certification will remain fishy no matter what 'explanation' (excuse) they try to use. Maybe Interscope can find 20 million copies of ARTPOP they looked over and it can become the biggest female album ever.
    Last edited by iHypeMusic; Thu April 4th, 2019, 06:58.

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    • This is simply a conspiracy theory with no evidence but I think for Eagles their label actually snuck in global sales, and thus the 'newfound' sales of 7 million is just global sales tbh.

      https://chartmasters.org/2017/12/csp...y-analysis/24/
      America
      US – 30,250,000
      Canada – 3,100,000
      Argentina – N/A
      Brazil – N/A
      Mexico – N/A
      Asia – 475,000
      Japan – 300,000
      Oceania
      Australia – 600,000
      New Zealand – 175,000
      Europe – 2,370,000
      UK – 1,200,000
      France – N/A
      Germany – N/A
      Italy – 200,000
      Spain – N/A
      Sweden – 75,000
      Netherland – 150,000
      Switzerland – N/A
      Austria – N/A
      Finland – N/A
      World – 37,450,000
      ChartMasters carefully estimated its sales outside US as 7 million.

      Sony’s questions arose due to its own calculations, based on Nielsen Music data, that Their Greatest Hits had sold just 1.3 million units since 2006, with streams and track sales bringing the total to 2.3 million album equivalent units -- 6.7 million units short of the RIAA’s figure.
      The reason I think this is because labels passed off global numbers as US numbers to RIAA in the past before actually. In 2013 when they first introduced streaming to single certs it was clear the labels somehow passed off global streams as US streams.

      Justin Bieber's Baby was certified 12x Platinum, when it only sold 3.9 million at the time. Since the ratio then was 100 streams = 1 sale, that means it was certified for over 800 million streams.

      It is simply impossible the song had 800 million streams in US by May 2013. Spotify was new and it didn't even have 100 million there, and Apple Music did not exist. Any other streaming services were miniscule in popularity.

      On YouTube it had 857 million global views at the time.
      Bieber's "Baby," which has 3.9 million track sales and over 857 million views on Vevo, is now 12-times platinum.
      Meaning they counted those 857 million global views for RIAA.

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      • hopefully Michael "gets over" Eagles very soon again
        LAST.FM

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        • RIAA.com:

          https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

          VARIOUS ARTISTS
          Title: HAMILTON (ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST RECORDING)
          Certification Date: April 4, 2019
          Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          6xP

          A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE
          Title: HOODIE SZN
          Certification Date: April 4, 2019
          Label: HIGH BRIDGE / ATLANTIC RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold

          SOUNDTRACK
          Title: AUSTIN POWERS
          Certification Date: April 4, 2019
          Label: HOLLYWOOD RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold

          CARDI B
          Title: INVASION OF PRIVACY
          Certification Date: April 3, 2019
          Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS / KSR
          Format: ALBUM
          3xP

          ARIANA GRANDE
          Title: SWEETENER
          Certification Date: April 3, 2019
          Label: REPUBLIC RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold, 1xP

          QUEEN
          Title: BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
          Certification Date: March 27, 2019
          Label: HOLLYWOOD RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold

          21 SAVAGE
          Title: I AM > I WAS
          Certification Date: March 27, 2019
          Label: SLAUGHTER GANG, LLC / EPIC RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold

          KANE BROWN
          Title: EXPERIMENT
          Certification Date: March 18, 2019
          Label: RCA NASHVILLE
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold

          ARIANA GRANDE
          Title: THANK U, NEXT
          Certification Date: March 15, 2019
          Label: REPUBLIC RECORDS
          Format: ALBUM
          Gold, 1xP

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          • RIAA.com:

            PLIES
            Title: THE REAL TESTAMENT
            Certification Date: April 8, 2019
            Label: SLIP N SLIDE / ATLANTIC
            Format: ALBUM
            1xP

            CHRISTINA PERRI
            Title: HEAD OR HEART
            Certification Date: April 8, 2019
            Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
            Format: ALBUM
            Gold

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            • Originally posted by iHypeMusic View Post
              This is simply a conspiracy theory with no evidence but I think for Eagles their label actually snuck in global sales, and thus the 'newfound' sales of 7 million is just global sales tbh.

              https://chartmasters.org/2017/12/csp...y-analysis/24/

              ChartMasters carefully estimated its sales outside US as 7 million.



              The reason I think this is because labels passed off global numbers as US numbers to RIAA in the past before actually. In 2013 when they first introduced streaming to single certs it was clear the labels somehow passed off global streams as US streams.

              Justin Bieber's Baby was certified 12x Platinum, when it only sold 3.9 million at the time. Since the ratio then was 100 streams = 1 sale, that means it was certified for over 800 million streams.

              It is simply impossible the song had 800 million streams in US by May 2013. Spotify was new and it didn't even have 100 million there, and Apple Music did not exist. Any other streaming services were miniscule in popularity.

              On YouTube it had 857 million global views at the time.


              Meaning they counted those 857 million global views for RIAA.

              The Bad Romance 11x Platinum certification (by May 2015) is also fishy for the same reason since it sold 5.4 million by August of 2013 and it was certified 10x Platinum in May of 2013.

              How in earth Bad Romance & Uptown Funk have the same certification when UF sold over 7 million and it has way more streams?

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              • so Beyonce's Homecoming(live) is over 100m but onyl in digital(so far), is this counted for multi disc(2cd) certification?

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                • it depends on what her record label files it as for certification some albums that are eligible to be certified as double disc sets are counted as one for certification Carrie Underwood's Greatest Hits decade #1 for example had it been correctly counted as 2 it would be 9 x platinum as it's shipped 4.5 million units and a double disc over 100 mins long each disc is counted for certification purposes so 250,000 is Gold 500,000 platinum 5 million Diamond etc for example Garth Brook's double live album has sold around 11 million copies so should be certified 22 x platinum
                  "the love of a mothers life is her child/children"

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                  • Originally posted by marcsgirl85 View Post
                    it depends on what her record label files it as for certification some albums that are eligible to be certified as double disc sets are counted as one for certification Carrie Underwood's Greatest Hits decade #1 for example had it been correctly counted as 2 it would be 9 x platinum as it's shipped 4.5 million units and a double disc over 100 mins long each disc is counted for certification purposes so 250,000 is Gold 500,000 platinum 5 million Diamond etc for example Garth Brook's double live album has sold around 11 million copies so should be certified 22 x platinum
                    Eligibility for a 2CD to be counted as a double cert unit starts at 100 min per set, a 2CD/LP set with under 100min play time is not eligible, Carrie's set missed the limit by 2 seconds Garth's set clocked in at 100.08 min so it's eligible for a double cert

                    If the album is a 2 LP set or more from the 70s or older, even if it's under 100min play time, it can also be eligible for a double cert.

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                    • Originally posted by Shayonce View Post
                      so Beyonce's Homecoming(live) is over 100m but onyl in digital(so far), is this counted for multi disc(2cd) certification?
                      Correct, it's over 100 min so it's eligible

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                      • RIAA.com:

                        ERIC CHURCH
                        Title: THE OUTSIDERS
                        Certification Date: April 29, 2019
                        Label: EMI RECORDS NASHVILLE
                        Format: ALBUM
                        2xP

                        ERIC CHURCH
                        Title: SINNERS LIKE ME
                        Certification Date: April 29, 2019
                        Label: CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE
                        Format: ALBUM
                        1xP

                        MAC MILLER
                        Title: WATCHING MOVIES WITH THE SOUND OFF
                        Certification Date: April 26, 2019
                        Label: ROSTRUM
                        Format: ALBUM
                        Gold

                        MAC MILLER
                        Title: SWIMMING
                        Certification Date: April 23, 2019
                        Label: WARNER BROS RECORDS
                        Format: ALBUM
                        Gold

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                        • RIAA.com:

                          GOO GOO DOLLS
                          Title: LET LOVE IN
                          Certification Date: May 10, 2019
                          Label: WARNER BROS. RECORDS
                          Format: ALBUM
                          Gold

                          PANIC! AT THE DISCO
                          Title: PRAY FOR THE WICKED
                          Certification Date: May 10, 2019
                          Label: FUELED BY RAMEN
                          Format: ALBUM
                          Platinum

                          BEYONCE
                          Title: LEMONADE
                          Certification Date: May 8, 2019
                          Label: COLUMBIA
                          Format: ALBUM
                          2xP

                          TEE GRIZZLEY
                          Title: MY MOMENT
                          Certification Date: May 8, 2019
                          Label: 300 ENTERTAINMENT
                          Format: ALBUM
                          Gold

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                          • RIAA.com:

                            https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

                            BEYONCE
                            Title: LEMONADE
                            Certification Date: June 12, 2019
                            Label: COLUMBIA
                            Format: ALBUM
                            3xP

                            F.L.Y. (FAST LIFE YUNGSTAZ)
                            Title: SWAG SURFIN'
                            Certification Date: June 10, 2019
                            Label: DEF JAM
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Gold

                            TYGA
                            Title: LEGENDARY
                            Certification Date: June 7, 2019
                            Label: LAST KINGS MUSIC / EMPIRE
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Gold

                            MEEK MILL
                            Title: CHAMPIONSHIPS
                            Certification Date: June 5, 2019
                            Label: MMG / ATLANTIC RECORDS
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Platinum

                            ASHER ROTH
                            Title: ASLEEP IN THE BREAD AISLE
                            Certification Date: June 3, 2019
                            Label: MOTOWN RECORDS
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Gold

                            JOSH TURNER
                            Title: ICON
                            Certification Date: June 3, 2019
                            Label: MCA NASHVILLE
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Gold

                            LAUREN DAIGLE
                            Title: LOOK UP CHILD
                            Certification Date: May 29, 2019
                            Label: CENTRICITY MUSIC
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Gold

                            HARRY STYLES
                            Title: HARRY STYLES
                            Certification Date: May 23, 2019
                            Label: COLUMBIA
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Platinum

                            LIL DICKY
                            Title: PROFESSIONAL RAPPER
                            Certification Date: May 23, 2019
                            Label: COMMISSION MUSIC
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Platinum

                            J. COLE
                            Title: 2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE
                            Certification Date: May 23, 2019
                            Label: ROC NATION / COLUMBIA
                            Format: ALBUM
                            3xP

                            ZAYN
                            Title: MIND OF MINE
                            Certification Date: May 20, 2019
                            Label: RCA
                            Format: ALBUM
                            Platinum

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                            • What?

                              RIAA.com:

                              DJ KHALED
                              Title: FATHER OF ASAHD
                              Certification Date: June 17, 2019
                              Label: EPIC
                              Format: ALBUM
                              Gold

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                              • Originally posted by thebigham View Post
                                What?

                                RIAA.com:

                                DJ KHALED
                                Title: FATHER OF ASAHD
                                Certification Date: June 17, 2019
                                Label: EPIC
                                Format: ALBUM
                                Gold
                                Isn't that because the album has big singles that were released last year - 1 platinum and 1 gold, that's 150k units on top of the ~250k he will have after 4 weeks out.? If I'm not getting this wrong of course

                                In the previous update Tyga immediately went gold - that album features the single 'Taste', which was released in May of last year, but went 4x platinum = it gets tallied up for a huge boost. I guess when Lil Nas X drops his EP soon, we will see an even more impressive example of this?

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                                • albums have been certified gold upon release since the mid 1970's it's nothing new similar for single platinum for example the Eagles Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 was certified plat about 3 weeks after it's release of course multi platinum was launched in 1984 and diamond in March 1999 which their Greatest Hits was double diamond at that point having sold in excess of 25 million copies by January 1999 at that point it and Thriller were tied for number of certifications and the title of top certified album has flip flopped between the two several times over the years also other albums in RIAA's best selling need updating in certifications Such as Whitney Houston's 1987 album Whitney Mariah Carey's 1990 self titled debut Garth Brooks's 1992 album The Chase which would make his 8th Diamond album extending his lead Guns & Roses Appetite For Destruction needs an update probably enough to join the 20 million club becoming the 13th album to do so in the US and some others aren't far behind such as Boston's self titled 1976 debut which should be at minimum 18 x platinum Metallica's self titled 1991 album should at bare minimum be 17 x platinum some Journey albums such as Greatest Hits and 1981's escape need updates Escape's last cert for example was Nov 14th 1994 at 9 x platinum and Greatest Hits last cert was April 22nd 2008
                                  "the love of a mothers life is her child/children"

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                                  • RIAA.com:

                                    VARIOUS ARTISTS
                                    Title: THE GREATEST SHOWMAN
                                    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    3xP

                                    OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW
                                    Title: O.C.M.S.
                                    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                    Label: NETTWERK
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

                                    JUICE WRLD
                                    Title: DEATH RACE FOR LOVE
                                    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                    Label: GRADE A / INTERSCOPE
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

                                    TRIPPIE REDD
                                    Title: A LOVE LETTER TO YOU
                                    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                    Label: TENTHOUSAND PROJECTS
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

                                    TRIPPIE REDD
                                    Title: LIFE'S A TRIP
                                    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                    Label: TENTHOUSAND PROJECTS
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

                                    WIZ KHALIFA
                                    Title: ROLLING PAPERS 2
                                    Certification Date: June 14, 2019
                                    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

                                    EMPIRE OF THE SUN
                                    Title: WALKING ON A DREAM
                                    Certification Date: June 13, 2019
                                    Label: ASTRALWERKS
                                    Format: ALBUM
                                    Gold

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                                    • RIAA.com:

                                      LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER
                                      Title: A STAR IS BORN SOUNDTRACK
                                      Certification Date: June 25, 2019
                                      Label: INTERSCOPE
                                      Format: ALBUM
                                      2xP

                                      OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW
                                      Title: O.C.M.S.
                                      Certification Date: June 20, 2019
                                      Label: NETTWERK
                                      Format: ALBUM
                                      Gold

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                                      • RIAA.com:

                                        LUKAS GRAHAM
                                        Title: LUKAS GRAHAM
                                        Certification Date: June 28, 2019
                                        Label: WARNER RECORDS
                                        Format: ALBUM
                                        1xP

                                        KACEY MUSGRAVES
                                        Title: GOLDEN HOUR
                                        Certification Date: June 28, 2019
                                        Label: MCA NASHVILLE
                                        Format: ALBUM
                                        Gold

                                        DUA LIPA
                                        Title: DUA LIPA
                                        Certification Date: June 28, 2019
                                        Label: WARNER RECORDS
                                        Format: ALBUM
                                        1xP

                                        A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE
                                        Title: HOODIE SZN
                                        Certification Date: June 26, 2019
                                        Label: HIGH BRIDGE / ATLANTIC RECORDS
                                        Format: ALBUM
                                        1xP

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                                        • RIAA.com:

                                          JOHN MAYER
                                          Title: THE SEARCH FOR EVERYTHING
                                          Certification Date: June 28, 2019
                                          Label: COLUMBIA
                                          Format: ALBUM
                                          Gold

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                                          • Does anyone know how many weeks in the Top 10 Their Greatest Hits (71-75) spent? Is there a chart trajectory available? Thank you.

                                            Originally posted by jimcastor View Post
                                            SoundScan shows Eagles Greatest Hits sold about 5.6 million between 1991 and 2013 July
                                            but during the same pediod its RIAA certifications went up by 17 million.
                                            How is that possible?
                                            Thriller sold about 6.2 million and its certifications went up by 8 million which is realistic
                                            in 19 years he had 1.7 million units from sales that SoundScand doesn't track.
                                            With the Eagles there is a 11.4 million difference


                                            87 ( 89 ) JACKSON*MICHAEL THRILLER 6,266,491 ( 89,804 )
                                            120 ( 122 ) EAGLES GREATEST HITS '71-75 5,598,732 ( 72,842 )

                                            viewtopic.php?p=5541480#p5541480

                                            Eagles Gh's history of RIAA certifications are suspect. It's like someone picked
                                            that album sometimes in the 90s specifically to make it "overtake" Thriller
                                            It's odd that nobody in the media questions how they found 9 million units since 2006
                                            when that albums was missing in action on the year end catalog charts except in
                                            2016 when Glenn Frey died.

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                                            • Hey, you can see their chart trajectory here:

                                              https://www.ukmix.org/showthread.php...399#post258399

                                              Hanboo’s Chart Histories is an excellent source for that. Love coming here just to read through it.

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                                              • https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

                                                MAREN MORRIS
                                                Title: HERO
                                                Certification Date: July 17, 2019
                                                Label: COLUMBIA NASHVILLE
                                                Format: ALBUM
                                                1xP

                                                DABABY
                                                Title: BABY ON BABY
                                                Certification Date: July 16, 2019
                                                Label: SCMG/INTERSCOPE
                                                Format: ALBUM
                                                Gold

                                                TWISTA
                                                Title: ADRENALINE RUSH
                                                Certification Date: July 15, 2019
                                                Label: ATLANTIC
                                                Format: ALBUM
                                                1xP

                                                SOUNDTRACK
                                                Title: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
                                                Certification Date: July 15, 2019
                                                Label: WALT DISNEY RECORDS
                                                Format: ALBUM
                                                Gold

                                                KEVIN GATES
                                                Title: LUCA BRASI 3
                                                Certification Date: July 9, 2019
                                                Label: BREAD WINNERS ASSOCIATION / ATLANTIC RECORDS
                                                Format: ALBUM
                                                Gold

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                                                • RIAA.com:

                                                  YBN NAHMIR, YBN CORDAE & YBN ALMIGHTY JAY
                                                  Title: YBN: THE MIXTAPE
                                                  Certification Date: July 31, 2019
                                                  Label: ART@WAR / ATLANTIC RECORDS
                                                  Format: ALBUM
                                                  Gold

                                                  PLAYBOI CARTI
                                                  Title: DIE LIT
                                                  Certification Date: July 31, 2019
                                                  Label: INTERSCOPE
                                                  Format: ALBUM
                                                  Gold

                                                  DANIEL CAESAR
                                                  Title: FREUDIAN
                                                  Certification Date: July 31, 2019
                                                  Label: GOLDEN CHILD RECORDINGS
                                                  Format: ALBUM
                                                  Gold

                                                  CHRIS STAPLETON
                                                  Title: TRAVELLER
                                                  Certification Date: July 24, 2019
                                                  Label: MERCURY NASHVILLE
                                                  Format: ALBUM
                                                  4xP

                                                  KEITH URBAN
                                                  Title: GRAFFITI U
                                                  Certification Date: July 24, 2019
                                                  Label: CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE
                                                  Format: ALBUM
                                                  Gold

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                                                  • NIALL HORAN
                                                    Title: FLICKER
                                                    Certification Date: August 6, 2019
                                                    Label: CAPITOL
                                                    Format: ALBUM
                                                    1xP

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