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  • me
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    Top-50 started in May 1999. Both Singles and Albums

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  • Anotherdom
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    Did Musica e dischi produce a weekly top fifty chart before the 2000s or was it just a top twenty-five? (this has probably already been answered on ukmix, but I can't find where)

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  • me
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    Originally posted by raindrops View Post

    hi, do you know were i can find archives from italian album charts since the 80s?
    As you know there aren't archives online of the album italian charts. What you can find online and free is:
    1-Weekly charts (Singles only) in hitparadeitalia.it starting from the sixties
    2-Weekly charts (Singles and Albums) starting form 1995 in www.fimi.it
    3-Weekly charts (Singles and Albums) from RAI in this blog http://chart-collector.blogspot.com/...ade-italy.html
    Regarding Musica & Dischi the full charts (Borsa Disco) were available at a very expensive price here (260 and 400 euros), but now this website is no more active: https://www.musicaedischi.it/pubblicazioni.php
    Now we are ready to sell all the weekly charts at a discounted price. See here: https://rivisteanni60.altervista.org/musica-dischi/

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  • Passing_Stranger
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    I once spent crazily long time extracting the RAI charts from the scans of the original magazines. So full lists for 1979-1990 can be found on my blog:

    http://chart-collector.blogspot.com/...ade-italy.html
    http://chart-collector.blogspot.com/...ade-italy.html

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  • Frankie
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    raindrops there's no such place on the internet as far as i know, the only way is to get books as Passing_Stranger rightly suggested. But the ones i know don't have weekly charts but are mostly databases with the albums listed by the name of the artists (with peak positions and number of weeks charting) or year-end charts, like these ones

    https://www.amazon.it/s?i=stripbooks...line_sr_book_1
    https://www.lulu.com/it/search?adult_audience_rating=00&contributor=Guido+Racca&page=1&pageSize=10

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  • Passing_Stranger
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    Originally posted by raindrops View Post
    hi, do you know were i can find archives from italian album charts since the 80s?
    In books published by Guido Racca. Though they're by artists mostly, not the actual charts.

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  • raindrops
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    Originally posted by Frankie View Post
    It looks like FIMI has finally digitilized all their weekly charts since the very first one in March 1995 abd they are available in their website

    https://www.fimi.it/top-of-the-music.../chartsarchive

    Albums since 1995 and singles since 1997. I did not see this coming, but great to see!
    hi, do you know were i can find archives from italian album charts since the 80s?

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  • me
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    Originally posted by frankie_85 View Post

    @me could you please check the last positions of what is now week 14 of 2006 if the chart corrisponds with the data you have? 'cause i have a few positions different from what FIMI posted (like for example those 3 Michael Jackson songs)
    My chart, starting from pos. 30, is different. I don't have Michael Jackson songs at all in this chart

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  • Frankie
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    Originally posted by SimoneMJJ View Post
    Are you sure that never happened with other rappers? However, yes. I think that a chart based on streaming and digital sales only reflects the taste of the youngest generations, ignoring the others that prefer other ways to listen music. With the decline of physical sales, the adult consumers prefer listen the music singles on radio.
    So, i think that a chart based on a mix of sales, streaming and radio better reflects what is really popular and listened in Italy.
    It has never happened, Sfera Ebbasta (which ironically is duetting with Blanco on these past weeks number one single) came very close doing it in January 2018 when he had the whole top12 except for position #5 occupied by Ed Sheeran.

    I also agree that some change needs to be made, personally i lost a lot of interest in following the charts over the last couple of years...

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  • Frankie
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    Originally posted by me View Post

    Yes, Fimi decided to create only one singles archive. With the "Singles-Mix" until mid 2006 and Digital from the beginning. So the data from Physical singles are missing from one year and a half.
    A chart based on sales, streaming and radio is the HPI chart
    @me could you please check the last positions of what is now week 14 of 2006 if the chart corrisponds with the data you have? 'cause i have a few positions different from what FIMI posted (like for example those 3 Michael Jackson songs)

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  • Frankie
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    I did notice that in the archive there was only a "Singoli" section unlike before when there was i think "Mix and singles" and "Digital", but i took for granted they considered the official single chart the physical mix until the last week of 2007 and then digital downloads from the first week of 2008 but instead they chose the opposite way and "erased" a year and a half of what themselves at the time presented as the official chart...interesting.

    So now what should we consider the real single chart for the period April 2006-December 2007? I assume we have to go with the digital one like in the archive now....
    The 2007 physical singles charts were embarassing, however this is a bit messy in perfect FIMI style...was it really THAT difficult at the time to merge the data of pysical and digital singles and create ONE chart from the beginning?

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  • me
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    Originally posted by SimoneMJJ View Post

    Yes, but it looks that they merged the physical singles chart and digital singles chart in 2006-07 period. They were two separate charts. Physical singles chart was active from February 1997 until December 2007, Digital singles chart is currently active and started from April 2006.

    So, i think that a chart based on a mix of sales, streaming and radio better reflects what is really popular and listened in Italy.
    Yes, Fimi decided to create only one singles archive. With the "Singles-Mix" until mid 2006 and Digital from the beginning. So the data from Physical singles are missing from one year and a half.
    A chart based on sales, streaming and radio is the HPI chart

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  • SimoneMJJ
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    Originally posted by frankie_85 View Post
    It looks like FIMI has finally digitilized all their weekly charts since the very first one in March 1995 abd they are available in their website

    https://www.fimi.it/top-of-the-music.../chartsarchive

    Albums since 1995 and singles since 1997. I did not see this coming, but great to see!
    Yes, but it looks that they merged the physical singles chart and digital singles chart in 2006-07 period. They were two separate charts. Physical singles chart was active from February 1997 until December 2007, Digital singles chart is currently active and started from April 2006.

    Originally posted by me View Post
    For the first time this week there are ten songs of the same artist in the first ten positions of the italian Singles Chart. This is what happens with the charts based on the streaming...Is it time to reform the charts?
    Are you sure that never happened with other rappers? However, yes. I think that a chart based on streaming and digital sales only reflects the taste of the youngest generations, ignoring the others that prefer other ways to listen music. With the decline of physical sales, the adult consumers prefer listen the music singles on radio.
    So, i think that a chart based on a mix of sales, streaming and radio better reflects what is really popular and listened in Italy.

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  • me
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    For the first time this week there are ten songs of the same artist in the first ten positions of the italian Singles Chart. This is what happens with the charts based on the streaming...Is it time to reform the charts?

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  • babyboy
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    Cool!

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  • Frankie
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    It looks like FIMI has finally digitilized all their weekly charts since the very first one in March 1995 abd they are available in their website

    https://www.fimi.it/top-of-the-music.../chartsarchive

    Albums since 1995 and singles since 1997. I did not see this coming, but great to see!

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  • me
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    Originally posted by Cassidd View Post

    Hi Me,
    Do you know when your website http://www.italycharts.com/ will go live?
    Im particularly interested in the Chart positions of Stephen Stills.
    Thanks!

    Due to various problems I don't know when it will be live, you have to wait some more time... sorry

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  • Cassidd
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    Originally posted by me View Post
    The charts of Hitparadeitalia are an average between all the charts available in Italy. It means 3-4 or also 10 different charts in the late sixties.
    The first link (...schede...) is written by an external contributor and the position in the chart isn't the position in hitparadeitalia chart. Probably is the position in "hitparade" from RAI.
    Hi Me,
    Do you know when your website http://www.italycharts.com/ will go live?
    Im particularly interested in the Chart positions of Stephen Stills.
    Thanks!

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  • Cassidd
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    Can anyone provide me with the Stephen Stills solo albums/singles chart positions?

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  • me
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    Originally posted by 1000MHz View Post
    Does anyone know why Hit Parade Italia contradicts itself? For example, the single "E dimmi che non vuoi morire" by Patty Pravo apparently reached no. 2, but elsewhere on the site, weekly charts indicate that it only got to no. 4. Please compare:
    http://www.hitparadeitalia.it/schede...uoi_morire.htm
    http://www.hitparadeitalia.it/hp_weeks/97/hp970301.htm

    There are many, many more examples of songs and albums like that. This lack of consistency is frustrating, especially for wikipedians. If anyone knows where HPI sources the data from, I'd be very grateful, as it appears to be neither from FIMI nor from Musica e Dischi.
    The charts of Hitparadeitalia are an average between all the charts available in Italy. It means 3-4 or also 10 different charts in the late sixties.
    The first link (...schede...) is written by an external contributor and the position in the chart isn't the position in hitparadeitalia chart. Probably is the position in "hitparade" from RAI.

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  • borderwolf
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    Thanks!

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  • 1000MHz
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    Very interesting article about Italian music charts in "Billboard" (1993).
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...AAMBAJ&pg=PA44

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  • Passing_Stranger
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    Originally posted by 1000MHz View Post
    Does anyone know why Hit Parade Italia contradicts itself?
    I wouldn't use that site for chart numbers. It's not clear where they get their chart positions, and they're all over the place. Sometimes they match the main charts (M&D, S&C, RAI), sometimes they give chart positions to songs that didn't chart on those three at all. As for their Top 20s, the sources are not even explained clearly. I'd use it as a source for songs they may have charted on one or several Italian charts - but nothing else.

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  • 1000MHz
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    Does anyone know why Hit Parade Italia contradicts itself? For example, the single "E dimmi che non vuoi morire" by Patty Pravo apparently reached no. 2, but elsewhere on the site, weekly charts indicate that it only got to no. 4. Please compare:
    http://www.hitparadeitalia.it/schede...uoi_morire.htm
    http://www.hitparadeitalia.it/hp_weeks/97/hp970301.htm

    There are many, many more examples of songs and albums like that. This lack of consistency is frustrating, especially for wikipedians. If anyone knows where HPI sources the data from, I'd be very grateful, as it appears to be neither from FIMI nor from Musica e Dischi.

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  • CatoFur
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    Hi Morganeuropa

    More of those French charts still to come. Thanks for the information on tbe early Italian charts. I have the M&D book (A Guinness / Whitburn type of book) and I see that books for the TV (S&C) and RAI lists, but how / where can one find the earlier M&D listings (pre-1960) or those for Il Musichiere? I would like to build a picture of the late fifties / early sixties for Italy but I don't really like the HPI charts for two reasons: (1) it is not a "real" chart that existed at the time and (2) it does not give dates, only years.

    Grazie

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