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  • jeangrey
    Manager
    • 26 Jan 2006
    • 3302

    Italian charts archive

    Fimi.it has archives from Jan 2000. Is there a website with previous charts?

    I assume that charts at Fimi.it are official Italian charts. So what are charts like Musica & Dischi or Hit Parade Italia?

    And the last question: there's still no website with certifications, right?
    Celine Dion - Ashes from Deadpool 2 (Music Video)
  • me
    Roadie
    • 04 Jul 2004
    • 975

    #2
    Re: Italian charts archive

    Originally posted by jeangrey
    Fimi.it has archives from Jan 2000. Is there a website with previous charts?

    I assume that charts at Fimi.it are official Italian charts. So what are charts like Musica & Dischi or Hit Parade Italia?

    And the last question: there's still no website with certifications, right?
    No, there is no website with previous FIMI charts.
    The are two music company associations in Italy: FIMI and AFI.
    FIMI is the association of all the majors and few minor companies. FIMI-Nielsen are their charts. They claim it is the official chart.
    AFI is the association of all the other companies, included all the indies. They say Musica&Dischi charts are the official charts

    By the way FIMI started in 1995. Musica&Dischi (it's a magazine) started in 1960.
    Now we have two charts. I think both are good. Before 1995 we had many different charts. HitParadeItalia tries to have only one chart from the beginning until now, mixing all the available charts.

    There is no website with certifications. The certifications in Italy are an option.
    italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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    • jeangrey
      Manager
      • 26 Jan 2006
      • 3302

      #3
      Re: Italian charts archive

      Originally posted by me
      Originally posted by jeangrey
      Fimi.it has archives from Jan 2000. Is there a website with previous charts?

      I assume that charts at Fimi.it are official Italian charts. So what are charts like Musica & Dischi or Hit Parade Italia?

      And the last question: there's still no website with certifications, right?
      No, there is no website with previous FIMI charts.
      The are two music company associations in Italy: FIMI and AFI.
      FIMI is the association of all the majors and few minor companies. FIMI-Nielsen are their charts. They claim it is the official chart.
      AFI is the association of all the other companies, included all the indies. They say Musica&Dischi charts are the official charts

      By the way FIMI started in 1995. Musica&Dischi (it's a magazine) started in 1960.
      Now we have two charts. I think both are good. Before 1995 we had many different charts. HitParadeItalia tries to have only one chart from the beginning until now, mixing all the available charts.

      There is no website with certifications. The certifications in Italy are an option.
      Thank you ME, I had no idea it's so complicated in Italy.

      By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
      Celine Dion - Ashes from Deadpool 2 (Music Video)

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      • me
        Roadie
        • 04 Jul 2004
        • 975

        #4
        Re: Italian charts archive

        Originally posted by jeangrey
        By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
        I am organizing my database in these weeks. I have all the charts, but some are on paper, so I need to put them on the pc. So I can help you, but not immediately.
        italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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        • jeangrey
          Manager
          • 26 Jan 2006
          • 3302

          #5
          Re: Italian charts archive

          Originally posted by me
          Originally posted by jeangrey
          By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
          I am organizing my database in these weeks. I have all the charts, but some are on paper, so I need to put them on the pc. So I can help you, but not immediately.
          Great,
          I'll be waiting

          Many thanks,
          J.
          Celine Dion - Ashes from Deadpool 2 (Music Video)

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          • zago
            Superstar
            • 20 Jan 2005
            • 5586

            #6
            and before 1995, Tv sorrisi & Canzoni what Chart take?? Musica & Dischi??
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            • me
              Roadie
              • 04 Jul 2004
              • 975

              #7
              Originally posted by zago
              and before 1995, Tv sorrisi & Canzoni what Chart take?? Musica & Dischi??
              Sorrisi & Canzoni started in 1963 with his own chart (only singles). Then they added the album chart in 1971.
              They ended the singles chart in 1997 and started to use the FIMI single chart.
              They ended the album chart in 1995 and started to use the FIMI chart in a special way.
              Because FIMI compiles two different album charts:
              1) one chart for Albums only and one chart for Compilations only (Various Artists) available everywhere (and in the FIMI site).
              2) a special chart, only for Sorrisi&Canzoni, with both Artists and Compilations mixed together. And this one is avilable only
              in the magazine and now also online in the Sorris&Canzoni site.
              italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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              • Lewis17
                Manager
                • 15 Apr 2006
                • 4730

                #8
                Re: Italian charts archive

                Originally posted by me
                Originally posted by jeangrey
                By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
                I am organizing my database in these weeks. I have all the charts, but some are on paper, so I need to put them on the pc. So I can help you, but not immediately.
                Hi me

                How is your data-base coming along?

                I'm looking for pre-2000 chart action for Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and 3T, especially from the FIMI charts between 1995-99. I hope you can help me when your data-base is finished

                Which charts do you consider to be the official Italian charts, before 1995? Is there an online archive anywhere for these charts, singles and albums?

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                • me
                  Roadie
                  • 04 Jul 2004
                  • 975

                  #9
                  Re: Italian charts archive

                  Originally posted by Lewis17
                  Originally posted by me
                  Originally posted by jeangrey
                  By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
                  I am organizing my database in these weeks. I have all the charts, but some are on paper, so I need to put them on the pc. So I can help you, but not immediately.
                  Hi me

                  How is your data-base coming along?

                  I'm looking for pre-2000 chart action for Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and 3T, especially from the FIMI charts between 1995-99. I hope you can help me when your data-base is finished

                  Which charts do you consider to be the official Italian charts, before 1995? Is there an online archive anywhere for these charts, singles and albums?
                  There is no official charts in Italy before 1995 (and also after 1995) so I can use the chart you prefer. In my database I have (I will have) all the different charts and also my own chart created mixing all the available charts (with different weight).
                  The only archives online (before 2000) are the archive of hitparadeitalia (free) or the archive of Musica&Dischi (but you have to pay).
                  This afternoon I'll check what I have now regarding the Jacksons
                  italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                  • me
                    Roadie
                    • 04 Jul 2004
                    • 975

                    #10
                    Re: Italian charts archive

                    Originally posted by jeangrey

                    Thank you ME, I had no idea it's so complicated in Italy.

                    By the way, I'm looking for Celine Dion chart histories in Italy. Is there a chance that you could help me a little? (I got only infos from FIMI since 2000)
                    You can find all the entries I have regarding Celine Dion in FIMI and M&D charts in my website (now, singles only)
                    italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                    • me
                      Roadie
                      • 04 Jul 2004
                      • 975

                      #11
                      Re: Italian charts archive

                      Originally posted by Lewis17

                      Hi me

                      I'm looking for pre-2000 chart action for Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and 3T, especially from the FIMI charts between 1995-99. I hope you can help me when your data-base is finished
                      Now you can find all the entries I have in my website regarding the Jacksons (now: Singles only). They are the full chart runs.
                      I have entries coming from 4 different charts:
                      FIMI: from 1997 until 2006
                      M&D: from 1960 until 2006
                      RAI: from 1963 until 1994
                      Sorrisi&Canzoni: from 1967 until 1997
                      As you can see they are completely different
                      italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                      • nelson
                        Legend
                        • 06 May 2004
                        • 18580

                        #12
                        Hi, Me, can you post the weekly charts archives for FIMI? Since I've never seen the full list. but just the top 10 in the Billboard's "HIts of the world".

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                        • TheBiatches
                          Personal Assistant
                          • 24 Feb 2006
                          • 1074

                          #13
                          Hey ME! I've visited your website and i've seen you have a Spice Girls section but there are only the peaks and they're not from FIMI.

                          Do you think you could post the full chartruns from FIMI for all the Spice Girls and Solo singles from 1996 until 1999?

                          Pretty please, thanks a lot in advance!
                          http://www.instagram.com/bornsimond

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                          • me
                            Roadie
                            • 04 Jul 2004
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nelson
                            Hi, Me, can you post the weekly charts archives for FIMI? Since I've never seen the full list. but just the top 10 in the Billboard's "HIts of the world".
                            I can give you specific chart runs, if you need, but:
                            1) Not all the charts are now on my PC. Many are again on paper. So I have to make some work to combine what I have on my DB and what is again on paper.
                            2) The full charts after 2000 are on the FIMI website.
                            3) I asked both M&D and FIMI and both told me that I can't distribute their charts because they are copyrighted. M&D sells all the charts. FIMI gives them only to the associates (Music Companies).
                            italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                            • me
                              Roadie
                              • 04 Jul 2004
                              • 975

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheBiatches
                              Hey ME! I've visited your website and i've seen you have a Spice Girls section but there are only the peaks and they're not from FIMI.

                              Do you think you could post the full chartruns from FIMI for all the Spice Girls and Solo singles from 1996 until 1999?

                              Pretty please, thanks a lot in advance!
                              OK, maybe tomorrow
                              italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                              • TheBiatches
                                Personal Assistant
                                • 24 Feb 2006
                                • 1074

                                #16
                                Originally posted by me
                                Originally posted by TheBiatches
                                Hey ME! I've visited your website and i've seen you have a Spice Girls section but there are only the peaks and they're not from FIMI.

                                Do you think you could post the full chartruns from FIMI for all the Spice Girls and Solo singles from 1996 until 1999?

                                Pretty please, thanks a lot in advance!
                                OK, maybe tomorrow
                                Thanks a lot! I've been looking for them for ages but all I could find was the Musica & Dischi charts, but i want FIMI!

                                Thanks again ;)
                                http://www.instagram.com/bornsimond

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                                • Lewis17
                                  Manager
                                  • 15 Apr 2006
                                  • 4730

                                  #17
                                  Re: Italian charts archive

                                  Originally posted by me
                                  Originally posted by Lewis17

                                  Hi me

                                  I'm looking for pre-2000 chart action for Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and 3T, especially from the FIMI charts between 1995-99. I hope you can help me when your data-base is finished
                                  Now you can find all the entries I have in my website regarding the Jacksons (now: Singles only). They are the full chart runs.
                                  I have entries coming from 4 different charts:
                                  FIMI: from 1997 until 2006
                                  M&D: from 1960 until 2006
                                  RAI: from 1963 until 1994
                                  Sorrisi&Canzoni: from 1967 until 1997
                                  As you can see they are completely different
                                  Thank you, me

                                  Did 3T (sons of Tito Jackson) have any hits on any of the Italian charts?

                                  Do you have chart information for Jacksons albums as well? I would love to see it if you have

                                  Thanks again!

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                                  • nelson
                                    Legend
                                    • 06 May 2004
                                    • 18580

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by me
                                    I can give you specific chart runs, if you need, but:
                                    1) Not all the charts are now on my PC. Many are again on paper. So I have to make some work to combine what I have on my DB and what is again on paper.
                                    2) The full charts after 2000 are on the FIMI website.
                                    3) I asked both M&D and FIMI and both told me that I can't distribute their charts because they are copyrighted. M&D sells all the charts. FIMI gives them only to the associates (Music Companies).
                                    Oh, I just wanted the FIMI before 2000 charts and not the combined charts. Unfortunately they're copyrighted...
                                    Maybe just Mariah, Celine, Madonna, Whitney's chart run for S&A?
                                    Do you have any certifications or sales from FIMI?
                                    Thanks.

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                                    • me
                                      Roadie
                                      • 04 Jul 2004
                                      • 975

                                      #19
                                      Re: Italian charts archive

                                      Originally posted by Lewis17
                                      Did 3T (sons of Tito Jackson) have any hits on any of the Italian charts?
                                      The only 3T entry in my website is (Sorrisi&Canzoni Chart):
                                      Artist-Song-Entry Date-Max Pos-Weeks on Chart
                                      3T feat. Michael Jackson-Why 14/09/1996 10-1
                                      italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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                                      • me
                                        Roadie
                                        • 04 Jul 2004
                                        • 975

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nelson
                                        Do you have any certifications or sales from FIMI?
                                        Thanks.
                                        We don't have an official list of certifications in Italy. Everything I have found (official) about sales and certfications (in these last years) is on my website.
                                        italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)

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