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    Dear Forumfellows!
    Please, could you give me a sign about where i can find official UK Indie charts. I mean the old 1980-2000 charts, not the recent ones.
    I know there's a book called "Indie Hits: The Complete UK Independent Charts 1980-1989". Its description says it includes lists of artists with the most number one singles, the longest album chart runs, labels with the most number one records, and much more. However it doesn't give a clue whether it includes weekly TOP30 Indie Charts themselves.

    Well, here' s the first official UK Indie Singles Chart. The only stuff i've managed to dig up so far.

    THE FIRST OFFICIAL UK INDIE CHART
    19th JANUARY 1980
    1 WHERE'S CAPTAIN KIRK? - SPIZZENERGI
    2 DAYTRIP TO BANGOR - FIDDLERS DRAM
    3 MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS - DELTA FIVE
    4 WHITE MICE - MODETTES
    5 CALIFORNIA UBER ALLES - DEAD KENNEDYS
    6 TRANSMISSION - JOY DIVISION
    7 EARCOM THREE (EP) - VARIOUS
    8 WE ARE ALL PROSTITUTES - THE POP GROUP
    9 KAMIKAZE - BOYS
    10 SILENT COMMAND - CABERET VOLTAIRE
    11 TAAGA (EP) - DANGEROUS GIRLS
    12 BILL GRUNDY (EP) - TV PERSONALITIES
    13 HE'S FRANK - MONOCHROME SET
    14 SHEEP FARMING IN BARNET - TOYAH
    15 YOU'VE NEVER HEARD... - FRESHMEN
    16 I'M IN LOVE WITH MARGARET THATCHER - NOT SENSIBLES
    17 FOUR A-SIDES - SCRITTI POLITTI
    18 YOU CAN BE YOU - HONEY BANE
    19 SID DID IT - NAZIES AGAINST FACISM
    20 PEEL SESSIONS - SCRITTI POLITTI
    21 REALITY ASYLUM - CRASS
    22 OPENING UP - CIRCLES
    23 SOLDIER SOLDIER- SPIZZENERGI
    24 POPCORN BABY - ESSENTIAL LOGIC
    25 CONFESSIONS - FLOWERS
    26 KISS THE MIRROR - WALL
    27 UK '79 - CRISIS
    28 FIRST AND LAST - ART ATTAX
    29 ADDICTS 4 TRACK (EP) - ADDICTS
    30 GABRIELLE - THE NIPS

    The number 1 Indie Album that week was Dirk Wears White Sox by "Adam & the Ants".
    I'm looking for "TOP POPS/MUSIC NOW" and "MERSEYBEAT / MUSIC ECHO" Charts to complete my 60's singles charts collection.

  • #2
    wow, hello to fellow Saint-Petersburg citizen

    privet

    wish I could find these indie charts as well... but I think I was told it's not exactly possible...
    for some reason... I'm here

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    • #3
      Hello there, fellow-townsman!
      Really not possible? Why?
      In 1980 Record Week have been published it. Later licenced to Sounds.
      I'm looking for "TOP POPS/MUSIC NOW" and "MERSEYBEAT / MUSIC ECHO" Charts to complete my 60's singles charts collection.

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      • #4
        that book that covers the Indie charts from 1980 to 1989 is available in more or less its entirety at

        http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indiehits/index.htm

        It's a Guinness style book, so its peak positions, weeks on chart etc (see the A-Z listings part on the main home page above) but does not contain weekly charts.

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        • #5
          Hi, Robbie!
          Thanks for the link. I've heard of this book.
          I'm looking for the weekly charts. A Guinness style book won't help me. :(

          Does anybode know which music papers published an official indie chart? I've got some numbers of "Smash Hits" from 1982. They were publishing Indie TOP30 Singles Charts too. I remember MM and NME were doing that as well.
          I'm looking for "TOP POPS/MUSIC NOW" and "MERSEYBEAT / MUSIC ECHO" Charts to complete my 60's singles charts collection.

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          • #6
            The history of the indie charts and who carried them is at that link I gave. Specifically:

            http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indieh ... yintro.htm

            Based on that article and my own knowledge:

            The indie chart from January 19, 1980 in your first post was compiled by the trade paper Record Business. It was carried (as an extended top 50) by Sounds from February 2, 1980 and in Record Mirror as a top 20 or 30 from December 6, 1980. When Record Business folded in January 1983 the chart began to be published in Music Week (which as that article says had been compiling its own indie chart for a while) until the latter began to compile and publish its own indie chart in 1985. Sounds then switched to this new chart while Record Mirror continued with the MRIB chart and eventually Melody Maker also eventually carried them. I think Record Mirror carried the MRIB indie chart to the end.

            Music Week has continued with its own indie chart since 1985 to the present.

            NME compiled its own indie chart which was at one time not only "indie" in both terms of independently produced and distributed records but also contained only records of the "indie" genre, which the MRIB / Music Week indie charts did not. I don't know the full history of the NME indie charts though.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Robbie
              The history of the indie charts and who carried them is at that link I gave. Specifically:

              http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indieh ... yintro.htm

              Based on that article and my own knowledge:

              The indie chart from January 19, 1980 in your first post was compiled by the trade paper Record Business. It was carried (as an extended top 50) by Sounds from February 2, 1980 and in Record Mirror as a top 20 or 30 from December 6, 1980. When Record Business folded in January 1983 the chart began to be published in Music Week (which as that article says had been compiling its own indie chart for a while) until the latter began to compile and publish its own indie chart in 1985. Sounds then switched to this new chart while Record Mirror continued with the MRIB chart and eventually Melody Maker also eventually carried them. I think Record Mirror carried the MRIB indie chart to the end.

              Music Week has continued with its own indie chart since 1985 to the present.

              NME compiled its own indie chart which was at one time not only "indie" in both terms of independently produced and distributed records but also contained only records of the "indie" genre, which the MRIB / Music Week indie charts did not. I don't know the full history of the NME indie charts though.
              Thanx for the info, Robbie
              I'm looking for "TOP POPS/MUSIC NOW" and "MERSEYBEAT / MUSIC ECHO" Charts to complete my 60's singles charts collection.

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              • #8
                Hi. The link about the Guinness style book of Indie Hits does not work. Can someon eplease tell me the actual title and author so I can try to trace it from another source?

                Thanks.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by harley12
                  Hi. The link about the Guinness style book of Indie Hits does not work. Can someon eplease tell me the actual title and author so I can try to trace it from another source?

                  Thanks.
                  The link hasn't worked for the past couple of years or so, sadly.

                  The book is "Indie Hits: The Complete UK Independent Charts: The Complete UK Singles and Album Independent Charts, 1980-89" by the late Barry Lazell. Lazell worked for Record Business (I think he was in charge of the chart department at the magazine which eventually became MRIB and went on to compile the Network Chart) and was the compiler of the Independent singles and album charts when they started in January 1980. A few months later he handed on the job of compiling the charts to Alan Jones, then of Record Mirror and now of Music Week.

                  The book is available to buy at amazon for 9.59 which is 5.40 cheaper than the normal price. If you want to buy the book you'll have to be quick as there's only 1 copy left in stock.

                  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indie-Hits-Comp ... 329&sr=1-1

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                  • #10
                    thank you very much. Have now ordered that. Will be interesting to see any of the obscure records I probably haven't heard of!

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                    • #11
                      There is an article in an issue of Melody Maker from 1992 that says that Nirvana's Blew EP (released Dec 1989) went straight to the top of the UK Indie Charts. Melody Maker published the Indie charts that were compiled by MRIB and I don't think that Blew was number 1 on this chart, firstly because it is not listed as such on Wikipedia's list of number 1 Indie hits, which uses a book source containing the MRIB Indie charts.

                      I have checked the following Melody Maker magazines: Dec 2 1989, Dec 14 1989, Jan 6 1990, Jan 13 1990 and Jan 27 1990 and it is not listed in the Indie charts at all. Music Week used to publish its own Indie chart (possibly compiled by Gallup ?) and I have checked issues: 9 Dec 1989, 16 Dec 1989, 23 Dec 1989 and 6 Jan 1990, and there is again no mention of Nirvana's Blew EP on the Indie charts.

                      I still have some issues of Melody Maker and Music Week to check. NME also apparently had its own different Indie chart. If anyone knows of Nirvana's December 1989 Blew EP on the UK Indie chart then please let me know

                      Cheers.
                      Last edited by mjgm84; Sun July 5, 2020, 20:51.

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                      • #12
                        Try the November issues

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BobPatience View Post
                          Try the November issues
                          Wait, how can you be so sure ? and do you mean the November issues of Melody Maker or Music Week ?

                          Cheers,

                          Mike.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mjgm84 View Post

                            Wait, how can you be so sure ? and do you mean the November issues of Melody Maker or Music Week ?

                            Cheers,

                            Mike.
                            Sorry, I should have elaborated.

                            The 1980s Indie Hits compilation by Barry Lazell lists Nirvana's 'BLEW (Tupelo TUPEP 8)' with a peak of 15, WoC of 2 and entry date of 11/11/1989.
                            This should correspond with the MRIB charts. Though it probably charted on the Music Week chart too.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BobPatience View Post

                              Sorry, I should have elaborated.

                              The 1980s Indie Hits compilation by Barry Lazell lists Nirvana's 'BLEW (Tupelo TUPEP 8)' with a peak of 15, WoC of 2 and entry date of 11/11/1989.
                              This should correspond with the MRIB charts. Though it probably charted on the Music Week chart too.
                              Thank you so much for your help. I guess as it was limited to 3000 copies in the UK only it was never going to make much of an impact even on the Indie chart. Cheers. Mike.

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                              • #16
                                BobPatience

                                I just wanted to ask you about two or three other releases, but only one of which is 1980's and so should be in Barry Lazell's book: Nirvana's debut album Bleach was released in June 1989 in the US and I have heard that it made the UK Indie chart. If you could confirm peak and date of peak on the Indie chart that would be great.

                                The next was not 1980's so won't be in the book: Nirvana's single "Sliver" (often mis-spelt Silver) charted on the official UK Singles charts at number 90 on 2 Feb 1991 and number 77 on 5 Dec 1992. It was released on an Independent label and so I was wondering if that made it onto the Indie charts as well ? I guess I will have to check Melody Maker and Music Week for those dates. Cheers.

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                                • #17
                                  mjgm84

                                  From NME (probably compiled by MRIB)
                                  Blew chart run
                                  11th nov 16-8-12-17-29-22-25(23/30th dec) -???- no chart for 6th jan, i don't possess 13th jan issue, don't appear on 20th jan chart
                                  Sliver chart run
                                  2nd feb 5-4-6-15-12-22-30-6 (23rd mar) - ???, don't appear on 6th apr chart

                                  more information
                                  Indie Charts 1980-1989
                                  Last edited by navi; Sun July 26, 2020, 21:30.

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