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  • 2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
    25 Imagine Dragons - Thunder
    51 Imagine Dragons - Believer
    54 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
    61 Ariana Grande - Into You
    76 Ariana Grande - Side To Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
    87 Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman
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    • 1 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
      35 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
      58 Ariana Grande - Into You
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      • 1 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
        15 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
        39 Baz Luhrmann - Everbody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen) [Edit]
        54 Ariana Grande - Into You
        69 Ariana Grande - Side To Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
        75 Ariana Grande - Break Free (feat. Zedd)
        80 Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman
        94 Ariana Grande - Everyday (feat. Future)
        98 Ariana Grande - One Last Time

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        4 Ariana Grande - My Everything (Deluxe)
        8 Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (Deluxe)
        101 Ariana Grande - Yours Truly
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        • Are iTunes Charts based solely on download sales or do they also include pre-order sales?

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          • There aren't many pre-order singles around now but albums must be based on pre-orders initially - as you will see later on. It would be very hard for someone to go straight to number one after just an hour of release without pre-orders being included.
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            • I meant 5 or 6 weeks before the actual release date.
              I suspect pre-order sales are added on at 1 minute after midnight Thirsday.

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              • Originally posted by brian05
                I meant 5 or 6 weeks before the actual release date.
                I suspect pre-order sales are added on at 1 minute after midnight Thursday.
                iTunes charts have links to the track or album to be purchased. You can download the iTunes software, you don't have to have an account with them, to see if the thing is on pre-order. The live charts are presumably 1 hour "bursts" of the sales information of the previous hour. So it would be possible for anything to enter at number one if it sold the most in the hour before the chart. Certainly all charts are updated on the hour. So there are 24 sales segments every day.
                When they used to do X-Factor records you could go into iTunes and click the records and see they were on pre-order. However the iTunes live charts did list these pre-order clicks. They were on before midnight too.
                Since most of the pre-orders were connected with the policy of allowing radio airplay before releasing, that practice seems to have stopped now. And records are on sale for many weeks before they are "officially" released.
                You can see this by looking at the charts on the Origami site, which still lists the release dates.
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                • Originally posted by brian05
                  I meant 5 or 6 weeks before the actual release date.

                  Yes, i think so.

                  It takes a fair few hours for any new single to make its way to number one - even X Factor singles didn't go straight in in the first hour. That's what makes me think albums can only do it with pre-orders included. I know digital album sales are lower than digital song sales but it still seems unlikely.

                  Pre-orders were included within both charts in the past so they had no trouble mixing the data of the two then. I think they just wanted to clean up the albums listings by removing pre-orders from the actual listed chart until they were released. As i said, singles are mainly released "on air, on sale" immediately now and any pre-orders you see there tend to be errors. In the "old" days singles with huge pre-orders regularly went straight to the top upon release.
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                  • 1 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                    10 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                    54 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls
                    88 Ariana Grande - One Last Time

                    Basically, all Graham has to post tomorrow is the new releases.
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                    • ALBUM CHART

                      NEW ALBUMS

                      6 The Charlatans - Different Days
                      12 The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Deluxe Edition)
                      18 The Amazons - The Amazons
                      19 The Amazons - The Amazons (Deluxe)
                      47 Elkie Brooks - Pearls - The Very Best Of
                      53 Worship Central - Mercy Road
                      63 Alestorm - No Grave but the Sea (Deluxe Edition)
                      71 Josh Baldwin - The War Is Over (Bethel Music member)
                      88 Olami Still - Guide Me Out (MA)
                      98 The Unthanks - Diversions, Vol. 4: The Songs and Poems of Molly Drake
                      106 Lil Yachty - Teenage Emotions
                      117 In Hearts Wake - Ark
                      118 EivÝr - SlÝr (English Version)


                      SINGLES

                      54 TheCityIsOurs - Hollow Hope - EP (Can't Forgive)
                      62 Mabel - Bedroom - EP
                      65 Novo Amor - Bathing Beach - EP (Carry You)

                      CLIMBERS

                      49 The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
                      70 I Prevail - Lifelines
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                      • Originally posted by Blondini
                        1 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                        10 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                        54 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls
                        88 Ariana Grande - One Last Time

                        Basically, all Graham has to post tomorrow is the new releases.
                        Little headstart:

                        64 Little Mix feat Stormzy - Power
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                        • A proper Friday Update
                          Top Ten...
                          1 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                          2 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee - Despacito (Remix) [feat. Justin Bieber]
                          3 Liam Payne - Strip That Down (feat. Quavo)
                          4 Jonas Blue - Mama (feat. William Singe)
                          5 DJ Khaled - I'm the One (feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper & Lil Wayne)
                          6 Shawn Mendes - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back
                          7 Charlie Puth - Attention
                          8 Disciples - On My Mind
                          9 Harry Styles - Sign of the Times
                          10 NEW - Rita Ora - Your Song

                          Breakers, new and climbers.....

                          12 NEW - Little Mix - Power (feat. Stormzy)
                          17 Ariana Grande - One Last Time
                          22 Maggie Lindemann - Pretty Girl (Cheat Codes X Cade Remix)
                          25 Katy Perry - Bon Appťtit (feat. Migos)
                          27 NEW - Martin Garrix & Troye Sivan - There For You
                          29 RE-ENTRY - Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger Something to do with the Attack? Not 59p either of the tracks
                          32 NEW - Halsey - Strangers (feat. Lauren Jauregui)
                          41 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls
                          56 NEW - Nick Jonas - Remember I Told You (feat. Anne-Marie & Mike Posner)
                          58 NEW - NEIKED - Call Me (feat. Mimi)
                          60 NEW - Captain Ska - Liar Liar Ge2017
                          61 NEW - Carly Rae Jepsen - Cut to the Feeling
                          66 RE-ENTRY - Baz Luhrmann - Everbody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen) [Edit] followed by Heatstroke at 67
                          70 Kings of Leon - WALLS
                          71 Kid Ink - F With U (feat. Ty Dolla $ign)
                          75 RE-ENTRY - Oasis - Wonderwall
                          76 Ariana Grande - Break Free (feat. Zedd)
                          79 London Grammar - Oh Woman Oh Man
                          83 Enrique Iglesias - SŕBEME LA RADIO (feat. Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox)
                          86 Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman
                          88 RE-ENTRY - Steps - Story of a Heart
                          98 NEW - Pia Mia - I'm a Fan (feat. Jeremih)
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                          • Originally posted by Graham76man
                            29 RE-ENTRY - Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger Something to do with the Attack? Not 59p either of the tracks
                            66 RE-ENTRY - Baz Luhrmann - Everbody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen) [Edit] followed by Heatstroke at 67
                            DLBIA was sung by a crowd in Manchester after Thursday's one minute silence. TV didn't show it because they didn't want to pay royalties but it was on social media.

                            Sunscreen was at 39 earlier in the week - don't know why - it was actually hotter yesterday.
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                            • ALBUM CHART (update since 1am)

                              1 Various Artists - Now That's What I Call Music! 96

                              NEW ALBUMS

                              2 (NEW) Bryson Tiller - True to Self
                              Seemingly rush-released - still has a 23rd June release date on the listing.

                              5 (NEW) Emma Blackery - Magnetised (MA)
                              6 The Charlatans - Different Days
                              7 (12) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Deluxe Edition)
                              8 (NEW) Shakira - El Dorado
                              14 (19) The Amazons - The Amazons (Deluxe)
                              21 (18) The Amazons - The Amazons
                              24 (47) Elkie Brooks - Pearls - The Very Best Of
                              27 (53) Worship Central - Mercy Road
                              39 (63) Alestorm - No Grave but the Sea (Deluxe Edition)
                              55 (106) Lil Yachty - Teenage Emotions
                              66 (71) Josh Baldwin - The War Is Over
                              67 (117) In Hearts Wake - Ark
                              88 Olami Still - Guide Me Out (MA)
                              95 (98) The Unthanks - Diversions, Vol. 4: The Songs and Poems of Molly Drake
                              100 (118) EivÝr - SlÝr (English Version)
                              136 (NEW) Geoff Zanelli - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
                              Despite having a different UK subtitle - Salazar's Revenge.

                              143 (NEW) Ben Ottewell - A Man Apart (member of Gomez)
                              144 (NEW) Patent Pending - Other People's Greatest Hits
                              Covers album with a Sgt Pepper style sleeve.

                              155 (NEW) Sound of The Sirens - For All Our Sins

                              SINGLES

                              35 (62) Mabel - Bedroom - EP
                              57 (54) TheCityIsOurs - Hollow Hope - EP (Can't Forgive)
                              65 Novo Amor - Bathing Beach - EP (Carry You)

                              PLUS

                              58 (49) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
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                              • There's also an album by James Vincent McMorrow - True Care which hasn't charted. Maybe he purposely excluded it?
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                                • 6 Rita Ora - Your Song
                                  8 Little Mix - Power (feat. Stormzy)
                                  24 Martin Garrix & Troye Sivan - There For You
                                  29 Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger
                                  30 Halsey - Strangers (feat. Lauren Jauregui)
                                  36 Sigrid - Don't Kill My Vibe
                                  37 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls
                                  47 Nick Jonas - Remember I Told You (feat. Anne-Marie & Mike Posner)
                                  51 Neiked - Call Me (feat. Mimi)
                                  55 Captain Ska - Liar Liar GE2017
                                  Anti Theresa May song - proceeds to food banks and anti austerity fund. Also #3 on Amazon (listed incorrectly as an album).
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN1STgQXW8

                                  60 Carly Rae Jepsen - Cut to the Feeling
                                  77 Shakira - Me Enamorť
                                  88 Pia Mia - I'm a Fan (feat. Jeremih)
                                  97 Grace Carter - Silence
                                  123 Noah Cyrus - I'm Stuck
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                                  • 5 Rita Ora - Your Song (not an Elton cover)
                                    34 Hailee Steinfeld - Most Girls
                                    50 Captain Ska - Liar Liar GE2017 (#1 Amazon "album")
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                                    • Despacito back on top.
                                      Rita at 4 (it's co-written by Ed Sheeran which explains why people are inexplicably liking it)
                                      Little Mix at 6.
                                      Liar Liar now at 23.
                                      Hailee at 28.
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                                      • ALBUM CHART

                                        58 Pumarosa - The Witch (were on Jools Holland)
                                        91 James Vincent McMorrow - True Care
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                                        • Originally posted by Blondini
                                          ALBUM CHART

                                          58
                                          91 James Vincent McMorrow - True Care
                                          I haven;t known he's recorded a new album
                                          KUBA'S CHART

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                                          • Liar Liar at 12 - original version at 66.
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                                            • Originally posted by Blondini
                                              Liar Liar at 12 - original version at 66.
                                              Now at number 2 and 46
                                              Still top on Amazon.
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                                              • Already they're getting radio stations saying they'll refuse to play it (the commercial radio chart Big Top 40 has cited Ofcom rules). You just know Radio 1 will refuse, too. Not to mention the fact that Radio 1 only play the top 25 now anyway so it has to get that far which is doubtful.

                                                2, 38 now. ONLY the 2017 version goes towards food banks and anti austerity fund. But both will be counted together for the main charts.
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                                                • Liar Liar #1

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                                                  • Originally posted by biscuits
                                                    Liar Liar #1

                                                    Original down at 43

                                                    62 Billy Lockett - Burn It Down
                                                    70 Grace Carter - Silence
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