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  • The Eurocharts.

    Great to see the Eurochart hot 100 singles/albums posted here.

    But didn't these charts begin in March 1984? (Or earlier)

    Would be great to see the pre-1986 charts as well.

  • #2
    The Euro Charts started in May 1976. But, Francis - one of the Members of UKMIX
    - has been calculating Euro Charts from 1967 onwards.
    Last edited by zeus555; Tue July 14, 2020, 12:58.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zeus555
      To see the 'Official' Euro Chart, (Europarade),No.1's, from May 1976, to the end of 1984, use this Link:,

      (It shows the first 125 Euro Chart No.1's)

      http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_vie ... 25&start=0


      And virtually all of the 917 weekly charts that were aired on TROS-radio, SR-1, Metro Radio and other radio stations can be read in full in these six threads which cavefan, francisplaiy and I posted here a few years ago:



      1976 to 1979 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52561

      1980 to 1982 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52562

      1983 to 1985 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52563

      1986 to 1988 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52564

      1989 to 1991 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52565

      1992 to 1994 - http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52566



      More recently, we have applied the same principles that the compilers were using back then to produce almost a thousand more weekly Europarades covering nearly the last nineteen years since those radio broadcasts ended:



      1994 to 1998 - http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60376

      1999 to 2003 - http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=65344

      2004 to 2008 - http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61099

      2009 onwards - http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=64107



      francisplaiy compiled the charts for 1994 until mid-2000, and I have done the rest from that point onwards, with a new one still being added every Friday lunchtime!

      Counting down this week - the UKMixParade Top 200 of 2019

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      • #4
        You can see all of the Pan-European No.1 Singles here
        - from 1959 to 1965, & then from May 1976 onwards.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:L ... _in_Europe


        (There were no Euro Charts from W/E 6th November 1965 to W/E 22nd May 1976)

        From the 1984 Lists onwards, you can also see the Pan-European No.1 Albums.

        (By Pan-European, I mean the Euro Charts).

        And you can see the 'Facts & Feats' Statistics, from the Euro Charts, (Singles), here:,

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Hot_100_Singles

        The 'Facts & Feats' Data starts on W/E 29th May 1976.

        As you can see, ABBA are 2nd only to Madonna, with No.1 Hits - 13, to Madonna's 17.
        But, if the Euro Chart went back further, then ABBA would also have had No.1's with 'Waterloo', 'SOS', 'Mamma Mia', & 'Fernando' - giving ABBA 17 No.1's - the same as Madonna. (And The Beatles would have had more No.1's than ABBA & Madonna).

        ABBA had 15 Euro Chart No.1's in Francis's Charts.

        Zeus555

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        • #5
          I meant the official Eurocharts published by Music & Media.

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          • #6
            Radomir - The Wikipedia Euro Charts are what you
            call the 'Official' ones, by Music & Media. Just read
            what it says.

            Compiled from March 1984 to December 2010:,

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Hot_100_Singles

            Zeus555

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            • #7
              HI the links doesn't work anymore. I'm looking for weekly Eurocharts from the 80's and The 90's

              best Wishes

              Niels

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Niels View Post
                HI the links doesn't work anymore. I'm looking for weekly Eurocharts from the 80's and The 90's
                All Music & Media magazines from 1984 to 2003 are available here on pdf: https://www.americanradiohistory.com...-and-Media.htm

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                • #9
                  WOW Thanks A lot

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                  • #10
                    Did Music & Media published a decade-end chart of the best selling singles between 1980 - 1989 in Europe?
                    I searched through but couldn't find one.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zeus555 View Post
                      Radomir - The Wikipedia Euro Charts are what you
                      call the 'Official' ones, by Music & Media. Just read
                      what it says.
                      I hope you can help me, I'm a bit confused!
                      On the weekly charts that Music & Media published some of the songs that appear at No'1 in Wikipedia - never made it to No'1
                      on the published charts.
                      For example:
                      Sandra only peaked at No'13 on Music & Media chart, but in Wikipedia it's listed at No'1 for 3 weeks,
                      Also: what was the 'official' chart: if the Eurochart is the official one, what was the Europarade?


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ohanna View Post

                        I hope you can help me, I'm a bit confused!
                        On the weekly charts that Music & Media published some of the songs that appear at No'1 in Wikipedia - never made it to No'1
                        on the published charts.
                        For example:
                        Sandra only peaked at No'13 on Music & Media chart, but in Wikipedia it's listed at No'1 for 3 weeks,
                        Also: what was the 'official' chart: if the Eurochart is the official one, what was the Europarade?

                        'Maria Magdalena' was a huge hit everywhere in Europe except for the UK and Ireland, so a number 13 peak is not understandable at all.

                        Some information from Wikipedia on the two charts:

                        Europarade Top 40
                        The first attempt at a Europe-wide chart was the Europarade, which was started in early 1976 by the Dutch TROS radio network. The chart initially consisted of only six countries: the Netherlands, UK, France, Germany, Belgium and Spain. In 1979 Italy and Denmark were added and during 1980, Austria and Switzerland were included. Ireland was added as the eleventh country in October 1983. The compilers collected the top 15 records from each country and then awarded corresponding points, depending which positions between 1 and 15 each record stood at. The "Europarade" was published in Music Week and the Dutch magazine Hitkrant.

                        Euro Hot 100
                        In March 1984, Music & Media magazine in Amsterdam started their own singles chart, "European Top 100 Singles", which they published as a Eurotip sheet for the first two years. The chart was based on national singles sales charts in sixteen European countries: Austria, Belgium (separately for Flanders and Wallonia), Denmark, Finland, France, West Germany, Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. This chart was accumulated by taking the chart positions in each country combined with the national sales percentage of records in that particular country.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Hot_100_Singles
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                        • #13
                          Benny Thank you so much!
                          The Eurochart sounds more accurate since it was based on actual sales.
                          As for Sandra: I assume she only peaked at No'13 cuase 'Maria Magdalena' didn't chart in all European countries simultaneously.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ohanna View Post
                            Benny Thank you so much!
                            The Eurochart sounds more accurate since it was based on actual sales.
                            As for Sandra: I assume she only peaked at No'13 cuase 'Maria Magdalena' didn't chart in all European countries simultaneously.
                            That's true, it first charted in the German-speaking countries and Scandinavia before it became a hit on the rest of the Continent.

                            However, the week of October 5, 1985 for example, the song was at number one in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Sweden, as well as at number 2 in Norway and number 3 in Italy. It should have been at least in the top 10 or even top 5 on the Eurochart during that week.
                            Last edited by Benny; Tue July 7, 2020, 18:29.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Benny View Post

                              That's true, it first charted in the German-speaking countries and Scandinavia before it became a hit on the rest of the Continent.

                              However, the week of October 5, 1985 for example, the song was at number one in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Sweden, as well as at number 2 in Norway and number 3 in Italy. It should have been at least in the top 10 or even top 5 on the Eurochart during that week.
                              That's true, but it really depends on the strength of the 12 songs that were above it, and how well they charted in the UK at the time since
                              the UK was always the biggest European market (followed by Germany and France).
                              Another weird example - by what i've read and checked in Music & Media magazines:
                              Modern Talking also didn't peak at No'1 with any of their singles.
                              Af I remember correctly Brother Louie was their highest charting song, peaking at No'6 (or something like that)
                              which was kinda shocking to discover, considering how big they were in Europe.
                              I guess the lack of success in the UK market really effected the overall position.
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                              • #16
                                Ohanna Yes, it seems that the UK had the highest sales percentage on that chart. I always thought that the difference between the UK and Germany was very small and that the 3 German-speaking countries combined would have had similar sales to the ones in the UK but it seems that that wasn't the case.
                                Last edited by Benny; Tue July 7, 2020, 18:52.
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                                • #17
                                  Please take all the Music & Media charts with a grain of salt.
                                  They used a static linear points system that disadvantaged the United Kingdom and Germany, and favoured France. (Overall market share is not equal to the individual market's saturation point for a number one sale; or number 10 or 20, etc.).
                                  It's nice to see and good for analysis' purposes but has no whatsoever meaning other than being a chronicle of songs that were charting in different countries.
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                                  • Benny
                                    Benny commented
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                                    Interesting, especially regarding France.

                                • #18
                                  Originally posted by trebor View Post
                                  Please take all the Music & Media charts with a grain of salt.
                                  They used a static linear points system that disadvantaged the United Kingdom and Germany, and favoured France. (Overall market share is not equal to the individual market's saturation point for a number one sale; or number 10 or 20, etc.).
                                  It's nice to see and good for analysis' purposes but has no whatsoever meaning other than being a chronicle of songs that were charting in different countries.
                                  But it's the only source that detemined the success of songs on a European-wide scale,
                                  so we have no choice but to take it as official material.
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                                  • #19
                                    Originally posted by Benny View Post
                                    Ohanna Yes, it seems that the UK had the highest sales percentage on that chart. I always thought that the difference between the UK and Germany was very small and that the 3 German-speaking countries combined would have had similar sales to the ones in the UK but it seems that that wasn't the case.
                                    btw I also read in M&M Magazine that Ace of Base's 'All That She Wants' was the most successful single in Europe
                                    in the span of 1984 - 1994.
                                    Originally I read that info way back in 1995 in Israeli newspaper (that's what led me to search for this info in M&M magazines,
                                    and it sure was mentioned there!)
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                                    • #20
                                      ^
                                      One argument does not automatically disqualify the other.
                                      Of course, you can refer to this chart as it's the only attempt made on a more professional level to sum up all of Europe's charts.
                                      I don't like the term official as it sounds like something to be ultimate, highly accurate and sacrosanct, like set in stone.
                                      But I understand what you want to say
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                                      • #21
                                        Originally posted by Ohanna View Post

                                        btw I also read in M&M Magazine that Ace of Base's 'All That She Wants' was the most successful single in Europe
                                        in the span of 1984 - 1994.
                                        Originally I read that info way back in 1995 in Israeli newspaper (that's what led me to search for this info in M&M magazines,
                                        and it sure was mentioned there!)
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                                        • #22
                                          Originally posted by Benny View Post

                                          Most successful single regarding chart performance or total sales?
                                          Hmm that's a good question, but won't both options will have the same result?
                                          I assume the most successful single in the charts = best selling single, no?

                                          Anyway here's the exact quote from Music & Media magazine, November 20, 1999
                                          Volume 16, Issue 47

                                          Spotlight: Ace of Base Singles of the 90s

                                          "All That She Wants, meanwhile, was declared by Music & Media to be the European number 1 for
                                          the decade 1984 - 1994
                                          ."

                                          I'm still searching for that declaration throughout the 1994-1995 magazines, I hope I'll track it down (their inner search engine doesn't function well).
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                                          • #23
                                            In terms of chart points, Ace Of Bases All That She Wants has been the most
                                            successful song in the 10 -year history of the Eurocharts. Amazingly, the song
                                            never hit the top spot (it peaked at number 2) although it proved its tenacity by
                                            staying 55 consecutive weeks in the chart, the second -longest ever (Inner Circles Sweat managed one week longer).
                                            All That She Wants has been the band's most successful single to date with total worldwide sales
                                            claimed to be over 2 million copies including a platinum certification in the UK (600.000 copies sold)
                                            and a gold award in France (250.000).
                                            Issue: 23/07/1994

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                                            • #24
                                              Originally posted by Ohanna View Post

                                              Hmm that's a good question, but won't both options will have the same result?
                                              I assume the most successful single in the charts = best selling single, no?
                                              Not necessarily. If a song spends for example 6 weeks at number one but only sells an average 50k copies per week then it has a better chart performance than a song that spends only 3 weeks at the top but sells 200k copies per week.

                                              'Candle in the Wind' for example is the biggest selling single ever in Germany but was only the 3rd biggest hit in the year-end charts of 1997 because 2 other songs had a better chart performance.

                                              So 'All That She Wants' was the song with the best chart performance as davidalic pointed out. It wasn't the biggest selling single from 1984-1994. It sold around 750k copies in Germany, 600k in the UK, 250k in France and let's say another 500k in the rest of Europe, so a total of 2 mio. 'Do They Know It's Christmas' sold more copies in the UK alone.
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                                              • #25
                                                Originally posted by Benny View Post

                                                Not necessarily. If a song spends for example 6 weeks at number one but only sells an average 50k copies per week then it has a better chart performance than a song that spends only 3 weeks at the top but sells 200k copies per week.

                                                'Candle in the Wind' for example is the biggest selling single ever in Germany but was only the 3rd biggest hit in the year-end charts of 1997 because 2 other songs had a better chart performance.

                                                So 'All That She Wants' was the song with the best chart performance as davidalic pointed out. It wasn't the biggest selling single from 1984-1994. It sold around 750k copies in Germany, 600k in the UK, 250k in France and let's say another 500k in the rest of Europe, so a total of 2 mio. 'Do They Know It's Christmas' sold more copies in the UK alone.
                                                What you wrote makes perfect sense, thank you Benny !
                                                Then I wonder what was M&M criteria, maybe it stayed inside the European Top-100 more weeks than any other song in those years.
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