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    Suicide Squad is an upcoming American superhero film based on the DC Comics antihero team of the same name. It is intended to be the third installment in the DC Extended Universe. The film is written and directed by David Ayer and stars an ensemble cast featuring Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Joel Kinnaman, Viola Davis, Jai Courtney, Jay Hernandez, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Ike Barinholtz, and Scott Eastwood.

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  • #2
    As much as I love Batman, I'm anticipating this more than BvS
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    • #3
      I am super stoked for this, my most highly anticipated movie of the year.

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      • #4
        I'm excited to see this, looks really good..

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        • #5
          I believe this is "The Box Office Smash" ( & Longevity) DC Universe needs, its looks really good and I'm so excited for it to come out.

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          • #6
            The trailers for this have been great, so surprised at the negative reviews on Rotten Tomatoes still who cares what film critics think it's what you think in the end
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            • #7
              Yeah the consensus seemed to be that the movie was a hectic mess, despite strong performances from Will Smith, Margot Robbie and Viola Davis.
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              • #8
                Saw it today and I don't know why it getting some bad reviews.
                It is a MUCH stronger and MORE ENTERTAINING film than "Batman Vs Superman" and a hell of a lot more fun.
                Standouts were definitely Robbie, Leto (I don't care what anyone say his Joker actually felt and looked unstable and dangerous) and of course Viola Davis.
                I felt they gave Will Smith a little too much focus for a pretty lack lustre character but I doubt he would've signed on for a bit part and Delevingne and Courtney could've shone a little brighter given the time but with such a big cast there had to be some sacrifices.
                They're braver than Marvel have been and weren't scared to have a body count.
                Obviously they're setting things up for the new "Bat-Fleck" solo movie and "Justice League" and as much as I enjoyed it I don't think there needs to be a sequel because these villains can easily migrate into the individual hero movies coming up.
                If anyone is going to score a solo movie it'll be Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn so it's no surprise that it's already in development because, like it or not, she appeals to a very wide and varied audience and is definitely "the star" of this film.
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                • #9
                  ‘Suicide Squad’ Busts Out With $8.1M Day One Overseas – International Box Office

                  Unleashed overseas in seven markets on Wednesday, Warner Bros’ adaptation of DC Comics’ Suicide Squad assembled $8.1M, largely from debuts in Korea and France. The starts bested Marvel comps Guardians Of The Galaxy and Deadpool in those plays, as well as Warner/DC’s own Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice from earlier this year. By the end of the weekend, the David Ayer-directed antihero Squad will be wreaking havoc in 57 international hubs, representing 70% of the offshore footprint.

                  The Squad led Korean box office with $2.9M on 732 screens. Opening on a non-traditional Wednesday (Thursday is the typical release date there), this is the 2nd best opening day ever for a Warner Bros film and the biggest August debut of all time for a U.S. movie. The launch more than tripled Guardians Of The Galaxy, per WB and is 58% above BVS and 54% over Deadpool. The robust Korean market is in the throes of a big run for homegrown fare which includes the 3rd frame of zombie smash Train To Busan and the 2nd week of Korean War drama Operation Chromite. Suicide Squad dominated those films as well as new entry The Last Princess which also bowed on Wednesday. Suicide Squad further gives stars Will Smith and Margot Robbie their best openings ever in Korea.

                  In France, the gang came in at $2.7M, on 667 screens including sneaks. That’s 80% ahead of Guardians Of The Galaxy which was also an August bow in 2014. It was 7% above Deadpool‘s February launch and 57% bigger than BVS.

                  In Sweden, also on a non-traditional Wednesday, the kick-off was $564K on 147 screens, for a 53% share of the Top 5 films. That’s the biggest August opening day of all time, the biggest Will Smith opening day ever and exceeds GOTG by 50%, BVS by 33% and DP by 2%.

                  Overall, these are very strong openings for the film which is facing some pretty tough reviews but so far appears to be critic-proof. BVS fought off something of a similar situation in March and went on to a $254M debut in 66 markets. Given the marquee/lore names of those two caped guys, BVS is not a wholly equitable comp for lesser-known property Suicide Squad. Closer are GOTG and Deadpool. Ahead of the rollout, industry sources placed the Squad‘s offshore opening between GOTG, which bowed to $67.4M in 42 international markets on essentially the same weekend in 2014, and Deadpool, which bowed to $132.1M in 61 this past February. Finding a precise range has been tough what with the differences in the release patterns and ratings — and that Deadpool was such a particular phenomenon. Sources have had Suicide Squad anywhere from $85M-$120M this weekend, although more cautious predictions top out at $110M.

                  On both GOTG and DP — and excluding China in the former’s case — the UK was the top offshore market. The London premiere of Suicide Squad, which was held this week as the major international launch. The key UK market kicks off with midnights tonight. Starting their runs earlier today were notably Australia, Russia and Brazil along with another 30 markets. Domestic previews start tonight in about 3,700 locations.

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                  • #10
                    What a whole load of rubbish this is. Total pig shit.

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                    • #11
                      How Warner Bros. Opened ‘Suicide Squad’ To $140M+ – Late Friday B.O. Update

                      3RD UPDATE, Friday, 11:14PM: Refresh for chart Early evening estimates have Warner Bros.’ Suicide Squad at $140M-plus for the weekend after a Friday that’s between $63.5M-$65M. But, when it comes to the audience and critics’ response to the film, it’s deja-vu all over again. Like Batman v. Superman, which earned a 27% Rotten Tomatoes score and B CinemaScore, Suicide Squad is getting panned by critics (26%) and has registered an above average response from CinemaScore crowds who gave it a B+ tonight. We’ll assess the long-term ramification of this in a bit, but Warner Bros. marketing department needs to be applauded here for delivering the third-best domestic opening of 2016 to date, the second best of the summer (after Captain America: Civil War‘s $179.1M) and the best opening of Will Smith’s career. Suicide Squad continues to validate Warner Bros.’ ability to capitalize on its brands.

                      At the beginning of the summer, rival distribution heads didn’t know whether to make heads or tails about Suicide Squad‘s prospects. After watching Warner Bros. get beat up by crowds and critics despite its $872.7M global business, distributors didn’t know if the DC villain film would work. Warner Bros. executives weren’t cocky either about Suicide Squad’s potential. However, they put their heads down, tubthumbed the hell out of this movie, and saved it from being collateral damage in the wake of BvS.

                      The first thing that Warner Bros. did right in regards to jumpstarting the buzz on Suicide Squad was releasing the Comic-Con sizzle reel for the movie a year ago, rather than making it a precious commodity for Comic-Con attendees. Fanboys were stoked by it. That’s why they pirated it and spread it around the web. Warner Bros. listened and dropped their high quality version online promptly.

                      But when BvS was flogged for being too dark and serious at the end of March, news hit that Suicide Squad was returning for reshoots (some say that cost the studio an extra $22M). Ayer insisted in interviews and on Twitter that Warner Bros. was just granting him creative license to add more elements.

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                      • #12
                        The Critics Must Be Crazy: 'Suicide Squad' Is Wicked Fun

                        Reading reviews of Suicide Squad, you’d think it’s the worst thing since…well…the last big Warner Bros./DC Comics movie: Batman Vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice.

                        Both these films—which are part of the budding DC Cinematic Universe—are currently rocking a disastrous 27% on Rotten Tomatoes. Ouch. My colleague Mark Hughes predicted it would land in the 65-70% range.

                        “I talked to several fans to gauge their reactions and watched how other viewers acted,” he writes of his screening of the film, “and it seemed the consensus was that the film is very good and entertaining. Critics, however, were a bit more mixed. Many seemed to like it as much as the fans did, but there were several others who clearly disliked the movie and were vocal about it.”

                        When Batman Vs. Superman came out in March, I went to it fully expecting it to be the dreary slog so many reviewers claimed it was. An incoherent mess from start to finish.

                        Thankfully, it turned out that— as is so often the case these days with comic book movies, fantasy movies, and other “nerd” properties—the critical consensus was wrong. Batman Vs. Superman was far from a perfect movie, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as critics and aggregators made it out to be. A solid, if flawed, take on the Batman vs. Superman fable.

                        Now, months later, it comes as no surprise that lo and behold, the same is true for Suicide Squad.

                        David Ayer’s story of a crew of villainous heroes—basically the Dirty Bunch of the DC Universe—is a lot of fun. So let’s take a look at what the critics are saying and why, dear readers, they must be crazy. Or at least why I suspect that a lot of people who review movies like this have a bias against them, and only praise comic book films when it’s safe to do so—i.e. The Dark Knight, or Deadpool, or The Avengers.

                        “Suicide Squad amounts to an all-out attack on the whole idea of entertainment,” writes Joe Morgenstern of the Wall Street Journal. “In a word, “Suicide Squad” is trash,” he writes. “In two words, it’s ugly trash.”

                        Morgenstern describes the movie much in the same way its predecessor was described, as “leaden” and “repetitive.” Indeed, he calls the film ”an expansion of the intractably bleak aesthetic that informed “Batman v Superman,” a vision of humanity dominated by heavy weaponry.”

                        That’s true, of course. That last part, anyways. Suicide Squad is an expansion of the last film. In it, we see the world brought dangerously close to destruction by a powerful entity called the Enchantress. But it isn’t otherworldly bad guys who frighten us the most here, or even the Suicide Squad itself, or Jared Leto’s utterly insane Joker.

                        Rather, it’s the indomitable Amanda Waller, head of A.R.G.U.S. and “mean lady” according to Will Smith’s Deadshot. In a lot of ways—some not really extrapolated in the film—Waller is a much more frightening creature than any of the rest. And it’s her bleak, Machiavellian savagery that we come to fear by the end of the film. She is “a vision of humanity dominated by heavy weaponry” in the flesh. There’s an important scene with her and Bruce Wayne following the credits. Don’t leave your seats too soon.

                        In any case, Morgenstern’s take is much like the rest. Suicide Squad is too bleak, too dark, too aimless, not funny enough.

                        Critic Amy Nicholson of MTV writes that the “closest Suicide Squad comes to the masterworks of Christopher Nolan is that, like Memento, it suffers from instant amnesia” as though this new string of DC films should simply ape Nolan’s work.

                        Others call it a colorful mess; a cluttered movie with no real plot; sexist, vulgar, pointless, etc. etc. etc.

                        Scanning Rotten Tomatoes, the singular “fresh” review I can spot is from NPR’s Chris Klimek. The blurb for this supposedly positive review? “It wants so desperately to be subversive and irreverent in the manner of Fight Club or, more likely, Deadpool. And yet the most shocking thing about it is how risk-averse it turns out to be.”

                        Alrighty then.

                        The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

                        I went into the film with trepidation once again, as I did with Warcraft and Batman Vs. Superman, both films panned by critics. As I did, long ago, with John Carter. And like all three of those movies, I soon found myself having a perfectly lovely time.

                        Suicide Squad is good for many reasons—and misses the mark a few times, too. (No, Ayer’s directing is not as spot-on as Deadshot’s aim.) We’ll start with the good and move on to the bad.

                        The Good

                        What I enjoyed most about Suicide Squad was its central conceit: The cast of villains. Margot Robbie in particular is simply a joy to watch—not simply as eye-candy, though that’s something the film plays up almost to a fault, but because she’s a constant bundle of crazy energy and wicked glee. Her Harley Quinn is as crazy as they come, and watching her interact with just about any other character is terrific fun. She’s especially good across from Smith and Leto.

                        Deadshot and Quinn form an almost sibling-like relationship throughout the film. Deadshot becomes almost a protective older brother to the wild Quinn. Indeed, Smith’s Deadshot forms the crux of the film’s humanity, the cornerstone of all its softer, more emotional moments (or most of them, anyways.)

                        But it’s Robbie and Leto who have the most fun. Indeed, as good as Leto is as the Joker—a somewhat impossible role after Heath Ledger’s incredible performance in The Dark Knight—it’s seeing the Joker in love that makes Suicide Squad so special. Far from the nonsensical schemes of the Joker in The Dark Knight, here the clown’s motivations are clear. He’s out to rescue the love of his life.

                        When he finds her at one point, he tells Harley Quinn that they should go back to his place. “I’ve got some grape soda on ice and a bear rug waiting!” (I paraphrase.) Quinn refers to him endearingly as “puddin.”

                        The rest of the bad guys get smaller portions of screen time, but each is solid enough to care about—outside of the waste of a character that was Slipknot (Adam Beach, the one Native American in the picture, who is killed off much too soon to matter.)

                        There’s Diablo (Jay Hernandez) a meta-human born with a demon inside him. He can spew huge gusts of flame from his hands, and has powers beyond that as well. He also has a really tragic backstory that gets even the most villainous bad guys teary-eyed.

                        Jai Courtney’s Boomerang is pitch-perfect as well. The movie would have been pretty funny without him—Harley Quinn carries much of the film’s comedy—but Boomerang adds a great deal. Not so much as a super villain—sorry, being a badass with a boomerang just doesn’t do it for me—but as comic relief, he’s great. The pink fluffy unicorn was a nice touch.

                        Joel Kinnaman as the gruff, lovestruck team leader Rick Flagg is also great, though I couldn’t shake his role in The Killing from my head whenever he was on screen. (The first season of that show is just powerful good TV, but truly devastating as well.)

                        In any case, a terrific cast, lots of humor, and some great action make this film a ton of fun from start to finish. A couple cameos by DC’s more famous heroes just add to the fun, and help tie the movie into the larger DC universe.

                        The Bad

                        Now onto the bad. While I don’t agree at all that the film either had “no plot” or was a total incoherent mess, it definitely suffered from some sloppy editing, especially in the first half, that made the film’s trajectory feel jumbled for a bit.

                        Basically, one of Waller’s pets gets free and starts wreaking havoc, and she sends the rest of her Suicide Squad to go in and clean up the mess. The problem here is in the transition from background—the story of each of the members of the Squad and how they were captured—into the current conflict which they’re set to mop up. (And yes, it is ironic that Waller’s team of misfits is sent on a mission to clean up her own mess. Waller is the worst.)

                        The problem lies in just a few small scenes, but boy does it throw you for a loop. Pretty much everything from the time the Enchantress (Cara Delevingne) rescues her brother and sets her world domination plot into action, to when the Suicide Squad is assembled, is choppy and hard to follow. The movie inexplicably chooses to return to these events later to explain what went wrong—but there’s no reason for this at all. Audiences already filled in the blanks of what went wrong. We had plenty of information to do just that, but not enough visualization to see it happen clearly. The movie either needed to show us less in the beginning so that it could reveal more in the end, or do away with any “Here’s what actually happened” nonsense and just show it unfold chronologically.

                        Far and away, this bit of jumbled storytelling and crappy editing was the worst part of the film, at least in raw terms of film-making itself. If Ayer and his editors had fixed this one thing, the entire movie would have flowed very naturally.

                        Of course, as I pondered this, I realized that a few other things could have been done better as well. Rather than a series of flashbacks told by Amanda Waller to her government buddies, we could have opened the entire film with the discovery of the Enchantress by archaeologist June Moone. I would have made her already in a long-term relationship with Flagg. Then, when she’s possessed, Flagg could have turned to Waller for help. Opening with this material would have not only been more dramatic, it would have helped signal to audiences how crucial this storyline was to the rest of the film, improving the flow from backstory to present conflict.

                        The Ugly

                        A lot of people are calling the film trashy or ugly because of its use of various bad words. Various genitalia are used to describe characters in unflattering ways (and critics are responding as though this is something new to R-rated action films) and there’s violence toward women in the film as well—though a great deal more directed at men. And honestly, Batman punching Harley Quinn in the face is hardly some act of domestic abuse. This is a woman who can take down five armed guards at once. She’s caged as if she were Hannibal Lecter himself.

                        So I can’t buy into this film being a terrible piece of misogynistic trash. It’s one of the more diverse comic book movies ever made. Its foul language is in keeping with its foul characters. Anyone complaining that certain words are bandied about either has little experience in the real world—in locker rooms, at bars, at work sites, this type of language is as common as air—or wants their villains as squeaky clean as their heroes.

                        I’ll focus instead on the real ugly in the film: The fantastic make-up. Killer Croc is one ugly dude, though he calls himself “beautiful” in one of the films better moments of comic relief. Diablo’s tattoos are masterfully drawn. And Harley Quinn is the perfect crazy Lolita-clown, a blue-and-red lollipop killer of the highest order.

                        The special effects and CGI are good, as well, but nothing to write home about. Probably my least favorite aspect of this or Batman Vs. Superman are the big CGI bads. I like the more human DC villains, generally speaking. The Harrison Wells and Jokers and Lex Luthors of the world.

                        Conclusion

                        The critics must be crazy. Suicide Squad can be something of a jumbled mess at times, and it’s certainly not as unique or hilarious as something like Deadpool, but it’s got plenty of charm, a great cast of villains, and a fun if somewhat silly plot. I had a good time from beginning to end, and the audience seemed to as well. There was some clapping, some hooting and hollering, and generally a sense of enjoyment throughout the fully packed theater.

                        All told, I think this is a good big screen movie. Plenty of fan service for comic book readers, and plenty for non-readers as well. Not everyone will like it, obviously, but I think you’ll agree that this deserves much more than the 27% it’s getting on Rotten Tomatoes. After all, the audience score there is at 74%, which feels like a much more reasonable assessment of the movie.

                        P.S. I’ve already been accused of being a “DC fanboy.” I can only say this: I review Arrow as well, and I’ve been hammering that show for months now for its ongoing suite of mistakes and bad decisions. I do love Batman and the DC universe, but I’ve given high praise to Marvel properties as well, including both the wonderful Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy (though I hated Age of Ultron.) I don’t really buy into the whole “fanboy” thing when it comes to comics. I like good stories and good characters, regardless of the publisher behind them. I own more Dark Horse comics than either DC or Marvel probably (thanks to Star Wars.) So any cries of DC fanboy in the comments will be utterly ignored, with severe disdain.

                        As always, thanks for reading and let me know what you thought of the movie in the comments.

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                        • #13
                          4TH UPDATE, Saturday,WRITETHRU 8AM: This morning industry weekend estimates for Warner Bros.’ Suicide Squad have risen to $146M-plus after a $65M Friday. Combined with the pic’s three-day foreign run of $64.6M, Suicide Squad‘s current global cume stands at $130M.

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                          • #14
                            I'm surprised how much critics are tearing it apart given it seems to be that almost everyone is preferring this to BvS and were more excited about it (the only person I knew who really stanned for BvS was someone who thinks Marvel movies are for kids). I plan to see it next week sometime even though it'll be the first Will Smith movie I care to see in god knows how many years lol.
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                            • #15
                              Saw this last night and I do not understand the slating that it's getting by critics. No film is perfect but this has the right balance of action and humour. Every character is perfectly cast.. Margot Robbie was the absolute standout for me. I felt this was better than Deadpool personally so I don't understand the bashing it's getting and the figures speak for themselves.
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                              • #16
                                I saw it today. I don't get where the critical negativity is coming from except for the fact that superhero movies are kind of burned out right now, as Deadpool and Civil War have been the only ones really well-received this year, and Deadpool essentially turned the genre on its head.

                                I hated Man Of Steel to the extent I refused to watch BvS and made my partner go on his own to see it, I didn't want another joyless dark, brooding 2 1/2 hour disaster porn flick that lacks any entertainment value or joy that you come to expect from Superman. Yet here, SS actually manages to be fun and entertaining and people are bitching even though it gave them what they bitched previous DCCU films lacked? WTF.

                                Margot Robbie had a total starmaking turn as Harley Quinn, she was amazing. I also loved Jared Leto's Joker and liked that he didn't just try to rehash Heath Ledger and allowed himself to have fun in his performance.
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                                • #17
                                  From the initial promo, it really looked like a mess.

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                                  • #18
                                    average movie but I enjoyed it.

                                    Margot and will Smith's acting were superb felt so natural and real.
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                                    • #19
                                      Well in 10 days it taken $470million which will probably give it a run of about $675-725 by the end. Pretty sure Warner bros are going to be happy with that one.
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                                      • #20
                                        Man Suicide Squad was freaking awesome!!! I wonder if the Justice League is going to be just as good or better!?!

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                                        • #21
                                          Looks like Will Smith will never catch a break!

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                                          • #22
                                            Utter tosh.

                                            It would have been better (significantly) if they had not shown The Joker at all....just left it with JKR on the badge in the cell and never shown his face. He was only there to add a recognisable character and to sell merchandise but at the detriment to the plot.

                                            This had the potential to be great and they just missed the target again. The Harley Quinnback story was poorly explained (why did she fall for him?) but she did have all the best lines. Expect a spin off movie.
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                                            • #23
                                              It was really a mess, I expected a lot from it..

                                              Where to begin, first off the presentation of the squad, it should have been Deadshot and the suicide squad, you see there are many characters that are just used to reach some audiences. Deadshot having the leadership wasn't great at all as he doesn't have a background of doing so and Will Smith is not a good actor. The biggest attraction of it was the couple Harley/Joker but it was kind of lukewarm, no deep discussion, no intense scene, just uncohesive moments they put together to get a movie. And the main villain, her story with her brother is not convincing at all, like her acting. I expected it to be way more character-driven with a deeper philosophy and moral questions and in the end it was a wannabe marvel movie but at least Marvel does these type of films better.

                                              The OST was also loud as hell.
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                                              • #24
                                                I need a movie about Harley Quinn. Definitely the highlight of the movie.
                                                And that model Carla girl... bye.

                                                I really enjoyed the movie but it was definitely a bit overdone

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by LightSeeker
                                                  Saw this last night and I do not understand the slating that it's getting by critics. No film is perfect but this has the right balance of action and humour. Every character is perfectly cast.. Margot Robbie was the absolute standout for me. I felt this was better than Deadpool personally so I don't understand the bashing it's getting and the figures speak for themselves.

                                                  I agree.
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