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  • #31
    Originally posted by hugo
    Originally posted by IrishLamb
    who are the two on the far right?
    Exactly.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by toni_pest
      Originally posted by hugo
      Originally posted by IrishLamb
      who are the two on the far right?
      Exactly.
      Lol, that!!! Last night I was: Who the hell are they?

      Well, I'm trying the app and is great. I just can't with the lo-fi, is amazing but $20/month (25,99€ in Spain) is just too much. Luckily there is another monthly fee around $10 (13€ in Spain) with 320kbps songs, still above iTunes who runs through 256kbps.

      I will sign If they keep their promises and new releases always are available on TIDAL as on iTunes.
      BLΛƆKPIИK is the revolution

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JeyBeMust
        still above iTunes who runs through 256kbps.
        There isn't a significant difference between 256kbps aac (the one itunes uses) and 360kbps mp3. And I'm assuming they will still sell their music on itunes, but TIDAL will have some sort of exclusive material.

        I'm surprised the price is different in Spain, finally something is cheaper in Portugal lol.
        "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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        • #34
          This is so self-indulgent. They should've just locked the door and never let any of them out again.
          1 pnau |2 Gabrielle Aplin |3 Dotter|4 Sofi Tukker |5 Afrojack

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          • #35
            TIDAL debuts with exclusive releases from The White Stripes, Daft Punk, and Arcade Fire

            TIDAL, the artist-owned high-fidelity streaming service, debuted today with a bang. Following this afternoon’s declaration signing — which saw the company’s principal owners including Jay Z, Arcade Fire’s Win Butler and Régine Chassagne, Kanye West, Jack White, and Daft Punk together on one stage — TIDAL has now unveiled a bevy of exclusive releases for its initial subscribers.

            Among them, The White Stripes’ first-ever television appearance, Daft Punk’s 2006 film Electroma, playlists curated by Arcade Fire, Jay Z, Beyoncé, and Coldplay, a preview of Todd Rundgren’s new collaboration with Lindstrøm and Emil Nikolaisen, and more. Listen here.
            "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hugo
              Originally posted by JeyBeMust
              still above iTunes who runs through 256kbps.
              There isn't a significant difference between 256kbps aac (the one itunes uses) and 360kbps mp3. And I'm assuming they will still sell their music on itunes, but TIDAL will have some sort of exclusive material.

              I'm surprised the price is different in Spain, finally something is cheaper in Portugal lol.
              Yeah... Thanks to our amazing and corrupt Government, taxes are through the roof... :-?
              BLΛƆKPIИK is the revolution

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              • #37
                Shares of the streaming music company Jay Z bought spiked 938% on Tuesday

                The streaming company Jay Z bought spiked 938% on Tuesday.

                Aspiro owns Tidal, the music streaming service Jay Z launched with other celebrities earlier this week.

                Earlier in March, Jay Z bought a majority of Aspiro for $54 million.

                From Reuters:

                In what appeared to reflect investors clamouring too late for a piece of Aspiro's music streaming service Tidal, the shares were up 938 percent at 11 Swedish crowns just before trading was halted ...

                The event is likely to have spurred interest in Aspiro's stock, lifting it to a level where buyers looked set to face losses of some 90 percent given the looming squeeze-out of the rump left after Jay-Z's $54 million acquisition of the company. Those remaining shares will be bought at 1.05 crowns each.

                The surge forced the Nasdaq OMX Stockholm exchange to halt trading on the stock.

                In a statement, the exchange said it "encourages all market participants to take measures to ensure that orders are reflecting the correct market value."

                A Nasdaq spokesman told Reuters that, "There are reasons to suppose that some have not noticed the communication around the bid."

                http://www.businessinsider.com/aspiro-s ... ent-2015-4
                "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                • #38
                  I am not here for this. They are all acting like it's a big deal, but it's really not. You're rich enough, stop inventing things that already exist just so you can earn some more cash.


                  #lilyallendaqueen
                  Pleasure over matter.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RaFanatic
                    I am not here for this. They are all acting like it's a big deal, but it's really not. You're rich enough, stop inventing things that already exist just so you can earn some more cash.


                    #lilyallendaqueen

                    Yes!

                    Ps has Lily spoke out against it?
                    1 pnau |2 Gabrielle Aplin |3 Dotter|4 Sofi Tukker |5 Afrojack

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                    • #40
                      I wish beyonce didn't sign up for this ugh... She needs to focus more on her sales not streaming
                      Life is anything but dull,at any corner there is something or someone waiting...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SholasBoy
                        Originally posted by RaFanatic
                        I am not here for this. They are all acting like it's a big deal, but it's really not. You're rich enough, stop inventing things that already exist just so you can earn some more cash.


                        #lilyallendaqueen

                        Yes!

                        Ps has Lily spoke out against it?
                        Yuup, check her twitter. She said some smart things
                        Pleasure over matter.

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                        • #42
                          This is turning out to be a big joke online. The hashtag was an epic fail since the service (and the purpose of it alone) was criticized more than it was actually promoted, the other artists who joined are getting bashed by their fans, the YouTube video has been getting more dislikes, (they even closed the comments section of one video discussing lossless audio) and the Facebook administrator of the official TIDAL page is having a hard time pacifying the negative reception by replying to the users one by one. :-? :-?

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                          • #43
                            Jay Z says he no longer has a record deal, opts to release music through TIDAL

                            Jay Z continued to try to explain exactly how TIDAL is different from any other streaming service by participating in a Q&A at NYU/Tisch School’s Clive Davis Instititue of Record Music on Wednesday. The hip-hop mogul fielded student-supplied questions from NYU professor Errol Kolosine alongside TIDAL exec Vania Schlogel.

                            Perhaps the most interesting revelation in the discussion came in a few short sentences from Jay. When asked if TIDAL would exclude major labels in its drive to service artists, he said that wasn’t a realistic possibility considering how artists’ contracts work. “But if you don’t have a contract as an independent artist, then you can do whatever you want and we would love to work with you.”

                            Kolosine followed up by inquiring if that meant an artist could theoretically use TIDAL in lieu of a record contract. Jay responded, “I’m on TIDAL. I don’t have a record deal. So, yes.” What he appeared to be saying, then, is that even though he owns Roc Nation, he doesn’t have a contract himself. This could beg the question of whether any future Jay Z albums may be released exclusively on the streaming service.

                            But that doesn’t mean TIDAL is a label in its own right. “Don’t disrespect us, man,” Jay replied when asked if this was the case. “We have bigger ambitions than that.”

                            Those ambitions include potentially changing the pay structure for other streaming services. “The royalty rates will be higher than other services,” Schlogel said. “In addition to that, there won’t be that free tier that’s been depressing the recorded music industry, and frankly been a part of what’s been driving the downfall of the recorded music industry.” Jay added, “So we don’t really view [Spotify] as competitors. As the tide rises, all the boats rise.” Schlogel later mentioned that student discount prices are in the works, as well.

                            As for how smaller, independent artists will be able to showcase their work on the platform, Schlogel admitted it’s a work in progress. “We’re still a very young, nascent company and we have a lot of initiatives that we’re working on, especially when it comes to indie talent, emerging talent, giving people visibility, giving people a forum to put their music up and giving them control of their distribution and their creative content.”

                            Jay noted that their big push is currently the Discovery Program, where TIDAL’s owners will showcase talent they’re into or have stumbled upon. “Imagine if Win [Butler] from Arcade Fire puts up an artist that he discovered in Haiti — and he had this idea, actually, I don’t want to step on his idea — and through the curation process gets something really good and introduces it to the world. And then the world is inspired by that sound. It gets a little ethereal from there, but just the possibilities of what TIDAL can do are really exciting, on a creative front.”

                            The pair also discussed whether TIDAL’s exclusive content would ever be available for download (“The analytics that we’re seeing tell us that streaming is the next thing, and downloads are going down,” Jay noted), bringing the value back to music, and what was in that vague document everyone signed at the initial press conference. Find the full transcript at FADER.

                            http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/04/j ... ugh-tidal/
                            I'm glad they made that clear.
                            "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                            • #44
                              This is terrible, he is actually trying to force his fans who have supported him for years, into having to subscribe to this service. Complete exploitation.
                              1 pnau |2 Gabrielle Aplin |3 Dotter|4 Sofi Tukker |5 Afrojack

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SholasBoy
                                This is terrible, he is actually trying to force his fans who have supported him for years, into having to subscribe to this service. Complete exploitation.
                                There's nothing in the article that suggests his releases will be exclusive to TIDAL, misleading title.

                                I see more cases of people wanting it to fail than expecting it to fail.

                                And instead of always throwing shade, I wish Lily would clean up her act and actually release something worth listening to.
                                "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                • #46
                                  It's definitely not a simple case of people wanting it to fail. Jay-Z and company are acting like they are completely robbed from receiving any money from their music judging from his marketing campaign of TIDAL when they are actually the biggest and most overpaid people in the industry. He invites all the A-list artists in his clique and does a giant and pretentious press conference talking about how they will "change the world" and that "history will be made" only to find out that they are all crying out for more royalties.

                                  It's just crazy how their rebuttal statement against the criticism is that "one needs money to make music" which is false. Real musicians can simply enjoy creating music by writing songs and playing actual musical instruments, their whole idea of saying that money plays a huge factor in sustaining the industry is crap. Just look at Beck, he has been in the industry for more than two decades and has continued to make music all his life (never did he come close to earning a fraction of Jay-Z's wealth) but you never hear him whine about drastic changes in music consumption because not every artist is like Madonna or Jay-Z who make music mainly for more sales, revenue and other commercial purposes. If they actually cared for the artists who don't get enough profit, they should have just launched a platform that can promote unsigned and unheard artists, or something to that effect.

                                  Also, if they were pushing for indie acts to profit so much from this, they should have showed that facet since day one, but since the Carters and company are so big in trying to overwhelm everyone by surprising the public with the intense star power and media hype backing them up, they thought that bringing the most powerful and most Grammy-awarded artists would make it a successful campaign, but it easily exposes that it's another ploy for Jay-Z to reign supreme as this industry juggernaut who will profit even more with this business venture. I think he underestimated the fact that people think before purchasing, he probably thought that everyone will just buy in the hype because everyone's faves are all in it.

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                                  • #47
                                    Originally posted by GetBack
                                    It's definitely not a simple case of people wanting it to fail. Jay-Z and company are acting like they are completely robbed from receiving any money from their music judging from his marketing campaign of TIDAL when they are actually the biggest and most overpaid people in the industry. He invites all the A-list artists in his clique and does a giant and pretentious press conference talking about how they will "change the world" and that "history will be made" only to find out that they are all crying out for more royalties.

                                    It's just crazy how their rebuttal statement against the criticism is that "one needs money to make music" which is false. Real musicians can simply enjoy creating music by writing songs and playing actual musical instruments, their whole idea of saying that money plays a huge factor in sustaining the industry is crap. Just look at Beck, he has been in the industry for more than two decades and has continued to make music all his life (never did he come close to earning a fraction of Jay-Z's wealth) but you never hear him whine about drastic changes in music consumption because not every artist is like Madonna or Jay-Z who make music mainly for more sales, revenue and other commercial purposes. If they actually cared for the artists who don't get enough profit, they should have just launched a platform that can promote unsigned and unheard artists, or something to that effect.

                                    Also, if they were pushing for indie acts to profit so much from this, they should have showed that facet since day one, but since the Carters and company are so big in trying to overwhelm everyone by surprising the public with the intense star power and media hype backing them up, they thought that bringing the most powerful and most Grammy-awarded artists would make it a successful campaign, but it easily exposes that it's another ploy for Jay-Z to reign supreme as this industry juggernaut who will profit even more with this business venture. I think he underestimated the fact that people think before purchasing, he probably thought that everyone will just buy in the hype because everyone's faves are all in it.
                                    I agree with everything you said in your post. I decided to try their hifi subscription trial. It's a nice service, but it will cost 35 euros a month in my country, which is overpriced in my book, and I find it very hard to hear, what I receive for the extra price. Even the standard subscription is 30% more expensive than Spotify here. It might be an attractive service for real audiophiles, but for me this is a less attractive product compared to other services. I also think that it's a bad look for the big music stars behind it, because their points about this service being so revolutionary and great for music artists compared to other services lack truth.

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                                    • #48
                                      GetBack I salute you!
                                      1 pnau |2 Gabrielle Aplin |3 Dotter|4 Sofi Tukker |5 Afrojack

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                                      • #49
                                        Tidal clearly isn't some revolutionary idea or service. It's just an overpriced streaming service to line the pocket of millionaires. It's been obvious that streaming is the way forward for many years now but Tidal or Spotify isn't the way forward. The music industry needs it's Netflix. I pay £6.99 a month for Netflix which is a bargain for what you are getting.

                                        Fran Healy makes a few good points.

                                        "Only way to get artists a fair cut from streaming is for record companies to acknowledge streaming as broadcast and not a sale"

                                        "Really would be a perfect moment for ALL artists and fans to come together and ask politely to change definition of streaming"

                                        "Bands should get a better cut from streaming for sure. But why should fans have to pay more for that cut?!!"
                                        Too Much Music
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                                        • #50
                                          Originally posted by oasisbobo
                                          The music industry needs it's Netflix. I pay £6.99 a month for Netflix which is a bargain for what you are getting.
                                          I can see Apple's upcoming service potentially do the trick

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                                          • #51
                                            Originally posted by emilhot
                                            Originally posted by oasisbobo
                                            The music industry needs it's Netflix. I pay £6.99 a month for Netflix which is a bargain for what you are getting.
                                            I can see Apple's upcoming service potentially do the trick
                                            If I was to put my money on someone doing it would have been Apple. They should have been developing something 5+ years ago!
                                            Too Much Music
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                                            Too Much Music @Twitter
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                                            • #52
                                              Tidal To Launch Tidal X Offline Experience Series With Private J. Cole Concert

                                              Tidal has announced the launch of an offline experience series. Tidal X will be linking fans with their favorite artists. For their first event, Tidal X will be rewarding J. Cole fans with two tickets to a private concert. From Saturday, April 11 to April 20 the streaming system will take notice of subscribers who are from NYC and listen to a lot of Cole’s music. Tidal promises that other offerings like the Tidal X series which brings “the music and VIP entertainment experience live to cities across the globe,” will be occurring. Maybe incentives like this one will bring in more listeners for the new company.

                                              http://hiphopsince1987.com/2015/news/ti ... e-concert/


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                                              • #53
                                                Jay Z and Jack White Personally Calling Tidal Subscribers, Exec Says
                                                Jay "works every day" on the streaming service

                                                Here's an incentive to sign up for Tidal, the streaming service recently launched by Jay Z and a bunch of his famous friends: Jay, Jack White, and several other musicians associated with Tidal have been calling subscribers to thank them for their support, according to an executive at the company.

                                                "[Jay Z] called some of his fans and one of them made the funniest comment," Vania Schlogel, Tial's chief investment officer and chief industry liaison, told Business Insider. "He said, 'this is the best customer service call I’ve ever received!'"

                                                According to Schlogel, musicians involved with Tidal are given accounts that allow them to see who is listening to their music, and how often it's being heard. That means that, say, White would be able to see how many times you've had "Seven Nation Army" on loop.

                                                Schlogel also told Business Insider that Jay Z "works every day" on the service. He's "very deeply involved, and the reason being is because this is a life project for him."

                                                http://pitchfork.com/news/59312-jay-z-a ... exec-says/
                                                "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                                • #54
                                                  Tidal’s Discovery service lets independent artists upload music directly

                                                  Jay Z’s streaming service has another ace up its sleeve.

                                                  Last week Tidal announced Rising, a feature that would highlight the music of smaller artists on the service. Now the company has gone one better and detailed Discovery, a forthcoming feature that will allow independent artists and labels to upload their music directly to the streaming service.

                                                  Speaking to Smashd, Tidal executive Vania Schlogel outlined the forthcoming feature, which will allow artists to circumvent third-party distribution services to get their music onto the service more easily. Tidal Discovery will also offer an artist dashboard giving artists access to their music’s listening data, including locations and user details.

                                                  “When it comes to the distribution of music, I want to get a point where there are no blockades for artists in order to be able to easily do that for themselves,” Schlogel told Smashd. “It’s built and we’re slowly rolling this out so that more and more artists can get access. The end game being that we want everyone to be able to self-upload their own music and then track it very intuitively through this artist dashboard.”

                                                  As well as the previously detailed Rising, Discovery is joined by Tidal X, the name that refers to the unique way Tidal connects artists with its fans through perks like private concerts and private phone calls for power listeners. Schlogel also detailed what percentages artists should expect to receive from a Tidal stream, explaining that the service would pay artists 62.5% of the cost across the board compared to the industry standard of paying indie labels 55% and major labels 60%.

                                                  Tidal Discovery is the latest answer to the criticism directed at the company over the past few weeks, which has come from big names including Lily Allen and Mumford & Sons. The feature could also be seen as a competitor to a similar tool announced by YouTube recently.

                                                  Tidal launched to much fanfare last month, when it was revealed that Jay Z had convinced a number of big names to invest in the service, including Daft Punk, Jack White and Madonna. It’s been a rocky first month for the service however, which lost its CEO last week, and saw its app plummet in the App Store rankings. [via Music Week]

                                                  http://www.factmag.com/2015/04/22/tidal ... t-artists/
                                                  "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                                  • #55


                                                    TIDAL ?@TIDALHiFi
                                                    .@OfficialWillow returns with a new exclusive dropping tomorrow on
                                                    http://TIDAL.com
                                                    "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                                    • #56
                                                      "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                                      • #57
                                                        Jay Z Discusses State of Tidal, Responds to Criticism on Twitter

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Stream of consciousness coming in 5, 4, 3, 2… #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Tidal is doing just fine. We have over 770,000 subs. We have been in business less than one month. #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        The iTunes Store wasn't built in a day. It took Spotify 9 years to be successful…

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        We are here for the long haul. Please give us a chance to grow & get better. #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        There are many big companies that are spending millions on a smear campaign. We are not anti-anyone, we are pro-artist & fan. #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        We made Tidal for fans. We have more than just music. We have video, exclusive concerts, tickets for events early, live sports!...

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        ….Tidal is where artists can give their fans more without the middlemen. #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Indie artists who want to work directly w/ us keep 100% of their music. "If you don't want the CEOs all in the videos" haa #tidalfacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Tidal pays 75% royalty rate to ALL artists, writers and producers - not just the founding members on stage.

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Rich getting richer? Equity values... YouTube $390 billion. Apple $760 billion. Spotify $8 billion. Tidal $60 million. #TidalFacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        My cousin just moved to Nigeria to discover new talent. Tidal is a global company.

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        We have Tidal X - it supports artists by giving them a platform to connect with their most loyal fans. Tidal is for all. #Tidalfacts

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        Our actions will speak louder than words. We made Tidal to bring people the best experiences...

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        and to help artists give that to their fans over and over again…

                                                        Mr. Carter ?@S_C_
                                                        We are human (even Daft Punk ha). We aren't perfect - but we are determined. #TidalFacts
                                                        "King isn't overrated, your fave is just undertalented."

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                                                        • #58
                                                          wowza, jay is bothered

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                                                          • #59
                                                            Originally posted by toni_pest
                                                            wowza, jay is bothered
                                                            His feelings are a little hurt.

                                                            I'm interested to see how this will be in the future.
                                                            Originally posted by snoh aalegra


                                                            - Ugh, those feels again

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                                                            • #60
                                                              Grimes says that Jay Z's Tidal streaming service is 'so important for indie music'

                                                              Grimes has offered her support to Jay Z's new streaming service, Tidal, recently taking to Instagram to post a now-deleted comment on the recent criticism the company has faced.

                                                              Grimes wrote on Instagram: "Mad respect for TIDAL!! I literally know musicians who live in cars and storage spaces, etc. And I know some pretty popular musicians who still struggle to make ends meet. Unless artists have a popular live show there aren’t a lot of income streams available. People have characterized TIDAL negatively but I promise it’s 100% artist friendly, and fan friendly since y’all have the option to pay the same rate as other streaming [platforms.] Respect to everyone involved for doing the right thing for struggling artists — this kind of thing is so important, especially for indie music! PS. I AM SIGNED TO 4AD!!"

                                                              http://www.nme.com/news/grimes/84970
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