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  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
    Both Celine and Madonna have number one albums in the US this year and still have huge touring power. Those two are not really that dusty.
    They can't touch a Radio or Streaming chart these days though but I agree they have solid fanbases and a lot of touring power, they might not be hot for charts anymore but they do remain profitable artists in the music business.
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    • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
      Both Celine and Madonna have number one albums in the US this year and still have huge touring power. Those two are not really that dusty.
      Yeah thanks to obsessed gheys like the stans here on UKmix. The GP is through with them srry.
      BEAUTY IS A MUST, TALENT IS A PLUS
      98 - OUT

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      • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
        At least Xtine had the collabos going for ha
        Had.

        No one is bookin ha these days.
        BEAUTY IS A MUST, TALENT IS A PLUS
        98 - OUT

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        • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
          They can't touch a Radio or Streaming chart these days though but I agree they have solid fanbases and a lot of touring power, they might not be hot for charts anymore but they do remain profitable artists in the music business.
          Radio isn't a measure of anything anymore, and streaming only makes you rich and successful if you're doing Drake numbers.

          If money is the measure of success, there ain't NO ONE better than Celine and Madge.

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          • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
            Radio isn't a measure of anything anymore, and streaming only makes you rich and successful if you're doing Drake numbers.

            If money is the measure of success, there ain't NO ONE better than Celine and Madge.

            BEAUTY IS A MUST, TALENT IS A PLUS
            98 - OUT

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            • Originally posted by aRat View Post
              Yeah thanks to obsessed gheys like the stans here on UKmix. The GP is through with them srry.
              Daily Global Digital Ranking: Artists:

              01 - #002 - Billie Eilish
              02 - #010 - Camila Cabello
              03 - #011 - Taylor Swift
              04 - #012 - Dua Lipa
              05 - #013 - Selena Gomez
              06 - #020 - Ariana Grande
              07 - #021 - Lady Gaga
              08 - #026 - Lizzo
              09 - #035 - Adele
              10 - #039 - ROSALÍA
              11 - #048 - Céline Dion
              12 - #055 - KAROL G
              13 - #056 - Idina Menzel
              14 - #067 - IU
              15 - #069 - Angèle
              16 - #072 - Marília Mendonça
              17 - #078 - Mariah Carey
              18 - #082 - Lana Del Rey
              19 - #084 - Halsey
              20 - #088 - Aya Nakamura
              Last edited by stevyy; Fri November 22, 2019, 23:17.
              My Chart

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              • Originally posted by aRat View Post
                Had.

                No one is bookin ha these days.
                Lady Marmalade 20th anniversary coming soon tho. Look out for a reunion tour.
                Originally posted by abi on GOAT
                You know what? UKMIX really did wonders on this song for me.

                I really went from not caring for this song at all to having this as my most played Mariah song of all time because of the constant mentions of this song from some of y'all here.

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                • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
                  Lady Marmalade 20th anniversary coming soon tho. Look out for a reunion tour.
                  hew and wet is this? Patty Labelle is doing another tour? amazing.
                  My Chart

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                  • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                    They can't touch a Radio or Streaming chart these days though but I agree they have solid fanbases and a lot of touring power, they might not be hot for charts anymore but they do remain profitable artists in the music business.
                    Surely a Beyonce fan does not have an issue with this in 2019??
                    Being profitable and visible is all that matters to older artists.

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                    • Originally posted by aRat View Post
                      Yeah thanks to obsessed gheys like the stans here on UKmix. The GP is through with them srry.
                      GP? Celine is going to open in the US with 125k, have you looked and seen lately how many active users UK mix has. Don't be deluded. Both women still have strong fanbases, aside from the few people who frequent sites such as this.
                      I mean you stan Dua, do you actually think Miss Lipa will be anywhere near a recording booth by 2045. Chile.

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                      • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                        Surely a Beyonce fan does not have an issue with this in 2019??
                        Being profitable and visible is all that matters to older artists.
                        Beyoncé has great streaming numbers though.
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                        • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                          Beyoncé has great streaming numbers though.
                          Not with The Gift or Spirit.

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                          • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                            Not with The Gift or Spirit.
                            It's a very specific themed project though, it's a Lion King project and a musical release that would only appeal to a very limited audience, it's not a major Beyoncé release on the same vein of "Beyoncé" or "Lemonade".

                            And either way "The Gift" still outstreamed, outperformed and had better radio performance than Madonna's and Celine's latest releases.
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                            • In reality, musicians that are truly successful are getting their music heard by the masses. The Rolling Stones have always done huge numbers on tour, few would say that they were having a meaningful impact in the 80s or 90s. Hits are what matters the most as far as having real impact is concerned, and the dusty divas had plenty in their day but are finished with that faze now. Artists that do well in streaming and the radio have their music heard by a lot more people (millions and millions) not a few hundred thousand (even a million best case scenario) die hards that buy everything and go to every tour. Streaming is the relevant gauge today, it's how people listen to music.

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                              • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                                It's a very specific themed project though, it's a Lion King project and a musical release that would only appeal to a very limited audience, it's not a major Beyoncé release on the same vein of "Beyoncé" or "Lemonade".

                                And either way "The Gift" still outstreamed, outperformed and had better radio performance than Madonna's and Celine's latest releases.
                                Didnt The Gift open with like 14k ? It didn't outperform anything.

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                                • Originally posted by WEBofDESIRE View Post
                                  In reality, musicians that are truly successful are getting their music heard by the masses. The Rolling Stones have always done huge numbers on tour, few would say that they were having a meaningful impact in the 80s or 90s. Hits are what matters the most as far as having real impact is concerned, and the dusty divas had plenty in their day but are finished with that faze now. Artists that do well in streaming and the radio have their music heard by a lot more people (millions and millions) not a few hundred thousand (even a million best case scenario) die hards that buy everything and go to every tour. Streaming is the relevant gauge today, it's how people listen to music.
                                  I agree and disagree. I may hear something due to streaming but it does not mean i care about it or even know who is singing it.

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                                  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                    Didnt The Gift open with like 14k ? It didn't outperform anything.
                                    Yeah but currently it has more SPS units registered than those albums, has more streams on Spotify and more Grammy nominations too.

                                    What's your problem with Beyoncé though? Even if "The Gift" wasn't a big album it's not like Beyoncé has spent years struggling or anything, just one album can't define her situation, if her next true album underperforms then I'd say that Beyoncé's time on the charts has passed but other than that she had 3 big albums this decade: "4" (which started weak but ended up becoming a streaming and catalogue staple), the big success the selftitled album "Beyoncé" was and "Lemonade" which found commercial success too. Both ST and Lemonade scored a Top 10 single ("Drunk In Love" #2) and ("Formation" #10 despite not having a proper release and being held for months).

                                    She's one of the biggest artists of this decade in every aspect: chart performance, critical acclaim, awards won, touring grossing and social media numbers.

                                    Just because she released "The Gift" doesn't mean she's already on the same Madonna and Celine's boat. It takes more time than that to determine if an artist is truly over on the radio or streaming charts.
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                                    • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                                      She's one of the biggest artists of this decade in every aspect: chart performance, critical acclaim, awards won, touring grossing and social media numbers.

                                      Just because she released "The Gift" doesn't mean she's already on the same Madonna and Celine's boat. It takes more time than that to determine if an artist is truly over on the radio or streaming charts.
                                      True. And if the "dusty" divas are any indication, she'll probably have at least another burst or two before things cool down for good.

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                                      • Originally posted by WEBofDESIRE View Post
                                        In reality, musicians that are truly successful are getting their music heard by the masses. The Rolling Stones have always done huge numbers on tour, few would say that they were having a meaningful impact in the 80s or 90s. Hits are what matters the most as far as having real impact is concerned, and the dusty divas had plenty in their day but are finished with that faze now. Artists that do well in streaming and the radio have their music heard by a lot more people (millions and millions) not a few hundred thousand (even a million best case scenario) die hards that buy everything and go to every tour. Streaming is the relevant gauge today, it's how people listen to music.
                                        Streaming is the relevant gauge for chart music, and nothing more.

                                        No veteran artist does well on streaming with new music (except for exceptions), there are no exceptions to this - there’s a reason for that.

                                        The one constant measure of success over the last few decades, never diminished - are people willing to pay money to see you you live?

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                                        • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                                          Yeah but currently it has more SPS units registered than those albums, has more streams on Spotify and more Grammy nominations too.

                                          What's your problem with Beyoncé though? Even if "The Gift" wasn't a big album it's not like Beyoncé has spent years struggling or anything, just one album can't define her situation, if her next true album underperforms then I'd say that Beyoncé's time on the charts has passed but other than that she had 3 big albums this decade: "4" (which started weak but ended up becoming a streaming and catalogue staple), the big success the selftitled album "Beyoncé" was and "Lemonade" which found commercial success too. Both ST and Lemonade scored a Top 10 single ("Drunk In Love" #2) and ("Formation" #10 despite not having a proper release and being held for months).

                                          She's one of the biggest artists of this decade in every aspect: chart performance, critical acclaim, awards won, touring grossing and social media numbers.

                                          Just because she released "The Gift" doesn't mean she's already on the same Madonna and Celine's boat. It takes more time than that to determine if an artist is truly over on the radio or streaming charts.
                                          Relax I have no issue with Bey.

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                                          • Wow Miss Braxton really served RnB excellence with this album from start to finish.



                                            Last edited by InFamous; Sat November 23, 2019, 01:39.

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                                              Last edited by InFamous; Sat November 23, 2019, 01:39.

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                                              • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                                                Streaming is the relevant gauge for chart music, and nothing more.

                                                No veteran artist does well on streaming with new music (except for exceptions), there are no exceptions to this - there’s a reason for that.

                                                The one constant measure of success over the last few decades, never diminished - are people willing to pay money to see you you live?
                                                I was talking about real impact. Having a loyal base that sticks with you is nice and can provide good numbers, but MOST people have forgotten all about you. "Hits", chart success, however you want to say it, is the real barometer of success. Take Celine, when she was at her peak, millions and millions heard her. Now her new music is more of a tree falling in the forest situation, most will never hear it at all. She can earn $$$ sure, but what impact is she having with her new music?

                                                I just don't buy into the idea that Celine and Madonna are major power players in the current music scene. It's great that they've built a reputation as touring artists, but that doesn't make them any more relevant with the GP. If they have a new song hit the top 40 or top 10, that would be a much better indication that the population at large was interested in the music.

                                                Don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with making new music just for the fans and as an excuse to tour. That's great for the fans but it != relevance.

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                                                • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                                                  Streaming is the relevant gauge for chart music, and nothing more.

                                                  No veteran artist does well on streaming with new music (except for exceptions), there are no exceptions to this - there’s a reason for that.

                                                  The one constant measure of success over the last few decades, never diminished - are people willing to pay money to see you you live?
                                                  Originally posted by WEBofDESIRE View Post
                                                  I was talking about real impact. Having a loyal base that sticks with you is nice and can provide good numbers, but MOST people have forgotten all about you. "Hits", chart success, however you want to say it, is the real barometer of success. Take Celine, when she was at her peak, millions and millions heard her. Now her new music is more of a tree falling in the forest situation, most will never hear it at all. She can earn $$$ sure, but what impact is she having with her new music?

                                                  I just don't buy into the idea that Celine and Madonna are major power players in music. It's great that they've built a reputation as touring artists, but that doesn't make them any more relevant with the GP.
                                                  Anyone who attempts to come for Celine Dion's relevance in 2019 needs to go to the 19th minute of this video and watch for a couple mins, and then stop deluding themselves into thinking that she is not a current power player in music.

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                                                  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                                    Anyone who attempts to come for Celine Dion's relevance in 2019 needs to go to the 19th minute of this video and watch for a couple mins, and then stop deluding themselves into thinking that she is not a current power player in music.

                                                    I hate to break it to you, but in a world of billions, that small audience (in the overall scheme of things) doesn't indicate a whole lot. It shows that the fans that buy tickets are entertained and will likely be back in the future. Good for her.

                                                    Meanwhile there are young artists that are being streamed billions of times, shaping the current music scene and the artists of the future.

                                                    I'm not knocking Celine at all, she is a great performer.

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