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  • RayRay
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    Originally posted by DOSSOME View Post
    I'm still yet to meet someone who bought 25
    Are there really people out there that don't have it?

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  • mariahmatherspacker
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    Originally posted by aRat View Post
    Ariana >>>> Maria
    But how can a Kia be better than an Aston Martin?

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  • aRat
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    Ariana >>>> Maria

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  • jio
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    After some time that she avoided doing it, Ariana sounds once again exactly like Mariah on "Rule The World"...

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  • DOSSOME
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    Originally posted by BeeBoy View Post
    She will do great yes. Her numbers will definitely be nowhere near what she did with the last two albums though I guess. It also depends on the singles but I already know people will call it a flop. Sales are dead. It will already be a great result if she tops 2m hard sales and that's usually her strong point. I'm going for a wild guess of 4m/5m US SpS total and I can already see the essays about how that's disappointing
    I'm still yet to meet someone who bought 25

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  • theMathematician
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    It probably depends on the country you're looking at: In central Europe, 'Drunk In Love' or 'Hold Up' are not very well known outside of her fanbase, while the chance is high that the average person on the street has heard of 'Crazy In Love', 'Single Ladies' or 'Listen' before.

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  • MrLeonix
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    Yeah ... "people focussing on 3-4 Beyoncé songs" is not really accurate

    20 songs with over 100million on Spotify
    27 music videos (as a lead artist) with over 100million views on Youtube
    3 albums with over 1Billion streams

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  • Colbie
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    ^ i was 13, am 23 now!

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  • DOSSOME
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    Originally posted by Colbie View Post
    Ahh Fearless! Childhood memories, used to spin that record alot 10 years ago!
    You were a child in 2009?

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  • BeeBoy
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post
    Will Adele slay with her next album? What do you guys think?
    She will do great yes. Her numbers will definitely be nowhere near what she did with the last two albums though I guess. It also depends on the singles but I already know people will call it a flop. Sales are dead. It will already be a great result if she tops 2m hard sales and that's usually her strong point. I'm going for a wild guess of 4m/5m US SpS total and I can already see the essays about how that's disappointing
    Last edited by BeeBoy; Tue March 19, 2019, 11:31. Reason: Typing with the phone is painful

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  • BeeBoy
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    Originally posted by Rihab View Post
    Could be due to the fact that Bey managed to remain relevant despite scoring relatively few big hits over the years. This leads to most of her streams getting 'concentrated' on like 3-4 career highlights (Crazy In Love, Single Ladies, Halo, Irreplaceable), while for the other 'main' pop girls streams are much more evenly distributed between 10, 20 or more hits.

    I wouldn't be surprised if some random ass country like Brazil or Korea was solely responsible for it getting more streams than those two.
    That's a fun thing to say, since she just exactly crossed her 20th (23 with DC) song with Baby Boy with over 100m streams on Spotify alone. Only 3 other women did that. Same for 3 albums over 1 billion streams.
    You can also look into the YouTube or Spotify streams to see where streams come from. The latter being pretty much non existing in Korea for example. It's doesn't even have its own country chart

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  • spiritboy
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    Will Adele slay with her next album? What do you guys think?

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  • DnBLover
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    Originally posted by Rihab View Post
    Halo is indeed doing extraordinarily well for a song that was basically just a medium-sized Top 10 hit in most countries when it was originally released. Could be due to the fact that Bey managed to remain relevant despite scoring relatively few big hits over the years. This leads to most of her streams getting 'concentrated' on like 3-4 career highlights (Crazy In Love, Single Ladies, Halo, Irreplaceable), while for the other 'main' pop girls streams are much more evenly distributed between 10, 20 or more hits.

    This doesn't necessarily mean that Halo is more of a classic than Hips Don't Lie, Umbrella, Gimme More, Hung Up, Bad Romance or Empire State Of Mind though. I don't even think it's more of a classic than Crazy In Love or Single Ladies globally.

    I wouldn't be surprised if some random ass country like Brazil or Korea was solely responsible for it getting more streams than those two.
    I haven't looked up these stats to see if they are true, but as far as I remember Halo was a big hot even in the US. It charted for a very long time and took many weeks to reach top 5 or something. I also remember that it was huge in Brazil, so I guess that has to have something to do with it being so big in streaming still. But not solely responsible. You can check how Halo is doing by country I believe.

    But Run The World is the ultimate flop song that became a hit afterwards. I guess it's a bit of a gimmick song, but it worked.

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  • Rihab
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    Halo is indeed doing extraordinarily well for a song that was basically just a medium-sized Top 10 hit in most countries when it was originally released. Could be due to the fact that Bey managed to remain relevant despite scoring relatively few big hits over the years. This leads to most of her streams getting 'concentrated' on like 3-4 career highlights (Crazy In Love, Single Ladies, Halo, Irreplaceable), while for the other 'main' pop girls streams are much more evenly distributed between 10, 20 or more hits.

    This doesn't necessarily mean that Halo is more of a classic than Hips Don't Lie, Umbrella, Gimme More, Hung Up, Bad Romance or Empire State Of Mind though. I don't even think it's more of a classic than Crazy In Love or Single Ladies globally.

    I wouldn't be surprised if some random ass country like Brazil or Korea was solely responsible for it getting more streams than those two.

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  • MrLeonix
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    "Halo" was a hit without a doubt, it received a lot of rotation on Radio, music channels and sold lots of digital copies back in 2009, it pretty much smashed and I remember it that way. But I admit that I never imagined that the song would become so big and such catalogue staple and modern classic 10 years later.

    It was a cool surprise to see how it ended turning out.

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  • TheRealest
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    Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
    Halo is King’s most overrated song. Even in 2009, I didn’t care for it all that much. One thing’s for sure: Halo is definitely the go to King song for wypipo because the hood doesn’t use it at all.
    Right

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  • MrLeonix
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    Originally posted by SummerPeur View Post
    Can I just say - I know it's not in the league of the albums mentioned (as it sold just less then <1million copies WW), but I think special recognition for the late 00's needs to go to Kylie's Aphrodite.

    - Return to form for her (another reinvention)
    - Massive lead single (ATL) (Top10 in 15 countries and Top50 in 23 countries)
    - Almost 1million sales WW with no US support (yes it charted for 3 weeks there)
    - Multiple Certifications for both singles and album across Australia and Europe
    - Positive review from critics
    - Several Accolades (Aria's, Brits, Virigin Media, IDMA)
    - Huge WW Tour (Grossing 60million+)
    - Critical Acclaim for her tour
    "Aphrodite" was such an uninteresting era for me. The Tour was stunning tho (super campy but great), one of the best pop shows ever done IMO.

    But the era itself was boring and lacked momentum. "Fever", "Body Language" and "X" were much better as eras.

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  • Goldmoney
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    Halo is King’s most overrated song. Even in 2009, I didn’t care for it all that much. One thing’s for sure: Halo is definitely the go to King song for wypipo because the hood doesn’t use it at all.

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  • Wayne
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    Aphrodite was a brilliant pop record and I'd listen to that album over any of the albums mentioned above - I think it's marginally better than X which was also outstanding. Kylie put out two phenomenal albums there.

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  • Erotica
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    Glad you mention Aphrodite

    Lemonade was such a disappointment.

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  • Bellus
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    Can I just say - I know it's not in the league of the albums mentioned (as it sold just less then <1million copies WW), but I think special recognition for the late 00's needs to go to Kylie's Aphrodite.

    - Return to form for her (another reinvention)
    - Massive lead single (ATL) (Top10 in 15 countries and Top50 in 23 countries)
    - Almost 1million sales WW with no US support (yes it charted for 3 weeks there)
    - Multiple Certifications for both singles and album across Australia and Europe
    - Positive review from critics
    - Several Accolades (Aria's, Brits, Virigin Media, IDMA)
    - Huge WW Tour (Grossing 60million+)
    - Critical Acclaim for her tour

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  • Colbie
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    Ahh Fearless! Childhood memories, used to spin that record alot 10 years ago!

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
    @aRat: 'Fearless' has sold a good share of its total in the US, that is true, but after all, it was 2009's 4th best-selling album worldwide - ahead of many albums that had a greater selling focus in Europe.
    The album sold 2.6 million copies worldwide in 2009 according to the IFPI (2.11 million copies in the US) - 18th biggest album.

    The album sold 5 million copies worldwide in 2009 according to the IFPI (3.2 million copies in the US) - 4th biggest album.

    Overall, across the two years, the album sold 5.31 million copies in the US out of a total 7.6 million copies worldwide (or around 70% of its total) - that's more than a "good share" IMO, she was still very much improving her international profile at that point but her numbers would be much more humble without her US success.

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  • theMathematician
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    [MENTION=65100]aRat[/MENTION]: 'Fearless' has sold a good share of its total in the US, that is true, but after all, it was 2009's 4th best-selling album worldwide - ahead of many albums that had a greater selling focus in Europe.
    [MENTION=35073]MrLeonix[/MENTION]: I wasn't comparing 'I Dreamed A Dream' to those other 3 albums in terms of impact. As I wrote, 'I Dreamed A Dream' was a short-term success, but still, that one was among the top 4 sellers of female-led albums back in 2009. You had written 'late 00s' before, so I'm not sure whether the other albums you mentioned in your last post qualify. '

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  • aRat
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    In terms of Sales + Chart Success + Classics + Impact on a global scale:

    The forGaGatten Monster
    Good Girl Gone Bad
    I... Am Sasha Fart
    Back To Black
    Loose

    In no particular order.

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