The Random Thought Thread

[Wayne]

Topic is done for.

[InFamous]

It’s not about agreeing or disagreeing. You only have 1400 posts in 3 years of membership. You weren’t a member of this forum when people who actually had differing opinions were able to engage in debate and discussion in a respectful and non trolling or stanning manner. So stop with this “poor me” “I’m being singled out cause my opinion isn’t being agreed with”. It’s about your intention and that has been proven to be simply to troll. It’s characters like you that have resulted in this forum becoming quieter.

You have proven yourself time after time, to be a troll who will bait Mariah fans until you get a reaction. You are ready to insert yourself in any discussion that will diminish Mariah’s success and achievements and you have posted numerous incorrect, inaccurate and simply untrue statements about her for months in various parts of this this forum. And all the victim playing and semantics you want to try, won’t change the fact that you are a troll. You cannot keep Mariah out of your mouth and it’s creepy how obsessed you are at wanting to spread your narrative about her and her career.

Just move on. You don’t like her. Stop mentioning her. But you won’t cause that’s not what your agenda is.

You are so full of it because activity on the forum decreased long before I was here. There was a dedicated Mariah mix section that closed due to lack of activity which I never once posted in. I guess that was somehow my fault too. Last week I simply responded to someone who said that IWTKWLI was not a good single choice by saying that it was fine for the UK because it hit top 20 and you ran in and turned it into a big argument for no reason. So quit playing innocent and
Sit down with your false accusations that UK mix is quieter because of me. The sheer delusion.

[Eamon]

I’m done with replying on this topic now. It’s up to the mods to decide.

[WEBofDESIRE]

When does this thread return to normal usage? The current ish gets old real quick.

[Eamon]

So no one is allowed to think write or engage in discussion on anything that you don't agree with or approve of. You really need to look up the definition of the word forum and stop trying to police this place like some sort of a fascist dictator.

It’s not about agreeing or disagreeing. You only have 1400 posts in 3 years of membership. You weren’t a member of this forum when people who actually had differing opinions were able to engage in debate and discussion in a respectful and non trolling or stanning manner. So stop with this “poor me” “I’m being singled out cause my opinion isn’t being agreed with”. It’s about your intention and that has been proven to be simply to troll. It’s characters like you that have resulted in this forum becoming quieter.

You have proven yourself time after time, to be a troll who will bait Mariah fans until you get a reaction. You are ready to insert yourself in any discussion that will diminish Mariah’s success and achievements and you have posted numerous incorrect, inaccurate and simply untrue statements about her for months in various parts of this this forum. And all the victim playing and semantics you want to try, won’t change the fact that you are a troll. You cannot keep Mariah out of your mouth and it’s creepy how obsessed you are at wanting to spread your narrative about her and her career.

Just move on. You don’t like her. Stop mentioning her. But you won’t cause that’s not what your agenda is.

[Tansike]

I'm really into running now. I can't believe it. Chubby 10 year old me would (and could) never.

Good for you! I really need to start running again as well... but it always needs so much willpower

Anyways, glad you're back & please stay despite the mess that is going on here

[InFamous]

Now that the trolls have come under scrutiny here, I see they’ve now migrated to another topic to start spreading their narrative. Seriously [MENTION=11323]Wayne[/MENTION], the issue isn’t the Random Thoughts Thread. It’s the trolls that’s that have been allowed to have free reign on Ukmix for long enough. Do the decent thing and get rid of them please.

So no one is allowed to think write or engage in discussion on anything that you don't agree with or approve of. You really need to look up the definition of the word forum and stop trying to police this place like some sort of a fascist dictator.

[Colbie]

Why do some people on here feel the need for trolling/baiting in the first place?

This.

[InFamous]

A list was posted. Everyone commented on it & that's that. Just because everyone isn't saying what you want to hear doesn't mean he's trolling.

Exactly. Stevvy actually enjoyed that type of discussion and thrives on it. The usual suspects overreacting and claiming some sort of big conspiracy is too much.

[InFamous]

The beauty of a thread like that, is you just ignore it if you're not in the mood for it. It's also a place where obvious troll posts can be hidden away by mods.

@InFamass, if you want to talk fan bases, it's obvious that one group gets trolled more than all the others. I assume because that group has the strongest contingent of active users.

The option for all users to block a few users, should probably be added.

Sure. People should definitely have the ability to block who they don't want to see/ read.

Cute edit on my username by the way. Interestingly you are a premium user so you have the ability to ignore people

[WEBofDESIRE]

This is what I was thinking. In my opinion allowing a specific type of behaviour displayed on boards like that would cheapen UKmix, which is otherwise one of the more grown up/intelligent music boards out there.
Allowing a (new) thread where trolling, baiting and shading is is the norm is a terrible idea. If you want to have ratchet stan war moments, take it back to ATRL or somewhere else.

The beauty of a thread like that, is you just ignore it if you're not in the mood for it. It's also a place where obvious troll posts can be hidden away by mods.

@InFamass, if you want to talk fan bases, it's obvious that one group gets trolled more than all the others. I assume because that group has the strongest contingent of active users.

The option for all users to block a few users, should probably be added.

[Aaronsmithjune1]

Now that the trolls have come under scrutiny here, I see they’ve now migrated to another topic to start spreading their narrative. Seriously [MENTION=11323]Wayne[/MENTION], the issue isn’t the Random Thoughts Thread. It’s the trolls that’s that have been allowed to have free reign on Ukmix for long enough. Do the decent thing and get rid of them please.

A list was posted. Everyone commented on it & that's that. Just because everyone isn't saying what you want to hear doesn't mean he's trolling.

[Eamon]

Now that the trolls have come under scrutiny here, I see they’ve now migrated to another topic to start spreading their narrative. Seriously [MENTION=11323]Wayne[/MENTION], the issue isn’t the Random Thoughts Thread. It’s the trolls that’s that have been allowed to have free reign on Ukmix for long enough. Do the decent thing and get rid of them please.

[samra]

I'm really into running now. I can't believe it. Chubby 10 year old me would (and could) never.

I just read the last few pages, woo lawd what's going on in here...

[Hejira]

As far as I can see it's one fan base who is problematic. Celine GDA thread and recent album thread were full of varying opinions, discussions and positive and negative opinions yet no one had any issues. Just today someone asked a question in the MC thread following a list published by Rolling Stone and was literally attacked by 7 people. In the Celine thread an MC fan commented that the album should be called filler not Courage. If anyone dared to say anything like that in the Caution thread there would be outrage, attacks and meltdowns.

And before anyone tells me to move on again please tell the MC fans to move on from me because they are still singling me out here.

Playing the victim is your defense and everyone sees through that.

[mariahmatherspacker]

Sweet mother of Christ it never ends

[samra]

I'm really into running now. I can't believe it. Chubby 10 year old me would (and could) never.

[InFamous]

As far as I can see it's one fan base who is problematic. Celine GDA thread and recent album thread were full of varying opinions, discussions and positive and negative opinions yet no one had any issues. Just today someone asked a question in the MC thread following a list published by Rolling Stone and was literally attacked by 7 people. In the Celine thread an MC fan commented that the album should be called filler not Courage. If anyone dared to say anything like that in the Caution thread there would be outrage, attacks and meltdowns.

And before anyone tells me to move on again please tell the MC fans to move on from me because they are still singling me out here.

[DOSSOME]

Why do some people on here feel the need for trolling/baiting in the first place? After my first ban on here, I had to learn 'Live and let live!'. So let's pretend that Mariah Carey's music is not my cup of tea. Why isn't it possible to mention that once and then move on, instead of discrediting an artist and his/her art on and on and on? It's tiresome for other users and as I had to learn back then, being in the center of constant fights is not a good feeling...

4real tho... Everyone knows I LIVE for Brandy Norwood but I'll be the first to acknowledge "Brandy Performs For the Chairs" is when trolling is done right. Maybe people who want to bait/troll should take notes from there then all will be well

[DOSSOME]

Relaxing the rules has done nothing to increase activity here. There's like only one or two problematic users (one being that Racist GetBack & the other isn't really worth acknowledging) so?

[theMathematician]

Why do some people on here feel the need for trolling/baiting in the first place? After my first ban on here, I had to learn 'Live and let live!'. So let's pretend that Mariah Carey's music is not my cup of tea. Why isn't it possible to mention that once and then move on, instead of discrediting an artist and his/her art on and on and on? It's tiresome for other users and as I had to learn back then, being in the center of constant fights is not a good feeling...

[Hejira]

Questions

Should the Random Thought Thread be permanently closed?
No.

If not, should there be clearer rules about what is posted in here?
Yes. There's a difference between playful banter and aggressive trolling/baiting and the latter should not be allowed.

If the Random Thought Thread was to go, what should it be replaced by?
Replacing it seems useless. Keep the thread but keep an eye out for certain members.

How do we get The Lounge as a whole more active? Does the fact that it's publicly available make a difference?
A lot of random thought get ignored/buried in the same old stan war discussions, as soon as they are out of the way more people get time to 'shine'. It becomes more attractive to post there.

[Hejira]

we get too many of those banned atrl members these days. where are the normal ones?

This is what I was thinking. In my opinion allowing a specific type of behaviour displayed on boards like that would cheapen UKmix, which is otherwise one of the more grown up/intelligent music boards out there.
Allowing a (new) thread where trolling, baiting and shading is is the norm is a terrible idea. If you want to have ratchet stan war moments, take it back to ATRL or somewhere else.

[BehindBreakaway]

[MENTION=11323]Wayne[/MENTION]

Should the Random Thought Thread be permanently closed?
No, I just think changes need to be made for it to become more of a respectful but still fun thread!

If not, should there be clearer rules about what is posted in here?
Yes, continuous baiting should not be allowed and I think it's pretty clear when people push those boundaries. It seems to be a free for all which means genuine comments get lost among the Stan wars.

If the Random Thought Thread was to go, what should it be replaced by?
Pop wars of a Stan war specific thread

How do we get The Lounge as a whole more active? Does the fact that it's publicly available make a difference?
I don't think so. People seem to avoid it specifically because it turns into Stan wars and sometimes its people clearly baiting people.

Should we do something different with the Premium Members Lounge? E.g. should that be a forum open to established members only but provide a truly safe place for people to interact honestly and openly.

I feel like something needs to happen whether it's a seperate advice forum or if it's incorporated into another sub forum. It's a place where people can give and ask advice on a wide manner of things. Sometimes this could be the only place they feel comfortable talking to people as you do tend to be more confident online as opposed to real life. I know I would find it useful. I also feel like a lot of members would be happy to talk and give advice. In general I think people want to help whatever way they can.

[Aaronsmithjune1]

Was pretty obvious you were joking around when you made comments like Stream xo for good skin or whatever lol

Obviously someone tried it