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  • #61
    Originally posted by Serby View Post
    *inhales deeply* [MENTION=2355]joao[/MENTION]

    Ignorance really is a blessing I guess. Talking about ideology as if we are not living in world made out of harmful ideologies already. The way you don't question the world as it is is scary, you take it as organic and as if it shaped into what is now by itself.
    Since you are living in a world full of harmful ideology, why add another one? Of course, I question the world and its ideologies (and gender ideology is one of the new stupid ideologies IMO), but that doesn´t change the fact that there are still objective facts out there that cannot be changed regardless of our beliefs. You sayng things like "a trans woman IS a biological woman" or "gender has nothing to do with biological sex" is the same as denying as objective facts out of pure belief. It´s not better then creationists who say the world has 6,000 years, for example. And what´s more scary is people who support this type of thought usually want to impose sanctions of those who don´t agree.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DnBLover View Post
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      @CrazyCrazy non-binary is the opposite of transgender in my opinion. Transgender is about changing boxes, non-binary is about jumping out.
      Yeah I know what they mean (kinda), I was just asking if it made any sense to identify as both at the same time as I’ve heard a few people saying they are both, so you confirm it doesn’t make sense.
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      • #63
        Nonbinary people are also trans. You don't need dysphoria and gender alignment surgery to be trans.

        Trans comes from Latin word meaning on the other side of or sth like that, so everyone whose gender doesn't align with the gender assigned at birth is trans. If you are not a cis person (your gender is same as the one assigned based on your sex organs), you're trans.
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        • #64
          Also trans people who undergo surgeries are not changing boxes per se, more like trying to align their bodies to their identity.

          Someone ask why fit into all the "stereotypes" of what a woman is, but you don't realise that what trans people want is to have their identities reaffirmed by the society. The more you pass, the safer you are.

          A trans woman is not a man who struggles with being feminine nor would a society that allows "male sex" bodied people to be any way elevate their struggle. If there was society where gender =/= what you have in your pants, trans people would not need to have surgeries to relief themselves.

          So, if we ever reach a society where who we consider to be a man can be a man, woman or none, all of it would be solved.
          Last edited by Serby; Fri July 12th, 2019, 09:48.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by DnBLover View Post
            This is a very sensitive topic, but I am in favour of people being free to be themselves without having to conform to boxes. But I am not in favour of delusion.

            I also think that all this talk is both confusing to people, makes the movement lose credibility and takes away from very important issues.
            Takes away from what important issues? Also people being confused says about people, not the movement imo.

            And what delusion? No one is denying chromosomes, sex organs and what not, but people are more than just their bodies.
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            • #66
              Check her out, she's really amazing at what she does. Also, many of the question I've seen here have been answered way better than I ever could and this video specifically tackles the TERFs (trans exclusionary radical feminists). A must watch.


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