Pop Talk - General Music Discussion

[MrLeonix]

Adele’s “21” is the biggest pop album (and album in general) of the millenium.

[cheapthrills]

Dua is indeed better than Kitty in every aspect (music, performances, quality, success, talent, voice, acclaim, global appeal, streaming, etc)

Bro .. It’s all over for Kitty since 2014 and she was quite local.

Dua is slaying the globe / internationally in a way Kitty never could with more years of success to come. #GlobalAct

Success, sales, chart achievements, number ones, beauty, talent, songwriting ability, vocal range, hair colour, better breasts, hotter boyfriend. Like the list is endless

I think we've explored Dua vs Katy enough for now.

Comparing breasts? Really?

Sure, place your bets on an album you've never heard. Take that leap of faith

Personally, I love the Black Pumas. I don't think they will win, but I wouldn't be mad.

[InFamous]

Britney flops globally these days let's be real and has been doing so for ten years at this stage. A global flop. Meanwhile Smile flopped in the US but was a huge success in Australia, Norway and Laos. Global.

[InFamous]

It is a genuine question. Obviously, there have been albums with bigger contribution to the history of pop music and modern culture. Regarding 'Fearless', I'd say Taylor Swift helped making country music accessible for a younger target audience. '1989' was her big move to pop music (well, that's what the media say, her previous records have had major pop influence as well) and it's a risky move that paid off in her case (unlike e.g. Leann Rimes or Jewel).

But how has it impacted culture ?

[aRat]

Sure it's a big pop album but has it really impacted culture in any way outside of that lol. come on.

It cannot impact anything since it is just a Teenage Dream clone anyway.

Tayloo, despite her US centric numbers, is one of the least impactful popstars...

[theMathematician]

Adele’s “21” is the biggest pop album (and album in general) of the millenium.

That depends on your definition of pop. Some call it soul, which is closer to R&B/hip hop than pop, I guess.

@InFamous: By making country music accessible to younger audiences and proving that you can successfuly crossover to pop formats. I think we all agree that there have been albums with greater cultural impact, but then again, it depends on what you'd call 'cultural impact'.

[InFamous]

Is BOMT Britney’s only album?

What about this?

“Greatest Hits: My Prerogative”:

- US - 1x Platinum
- Australia - 2x Platinum
- UK - 3x Platinum
- Japan - 3x Platinum

Etc, etc.

1,6m sales in US ... over 6m pure sales around the world

Katy Perry - One of the Boys

• RIAA: Platinum
• ARIA: 2× Platinum
• BPI: 2× Platinum
• BVMI: 3× Gold
• FIMI: Gold
• IFPI AUT: Platinum
• IFPI SWI: Gold
• MC: 3× Platinum
• RMNZ: Gold
• SNEP: 2× Platinum

OOPS. What's next bro ?

[Enzolorenzo]

Sure it's a big pop album but has it really impacted culture in any way outside of that lol. come on.

I mean cultural impact isn’t something objective. The album was a massive success, it scored multiple radio hits and is still very remembered to the GP. Looks like it was an impactful album to me

[MrLeonix]

Britney flops globally these days let's be real and has been doing so for ten years at this stage. A global flop. Meanwhile Smile flopped in the US but was a huge success in Australia, Norway and Laos. Global.

Smile is not even Gold in Australia. Huge success my ass.

And BTW “Smile” hasn’t outsold “Glory” in any market (except for Norway)

[MrLeonix]

That depends on your definition of pop. Some call it soul, which is closer to R&B/hip hop than pop, I guess.

@InFamous: By making country music accessible to younger audiences and proving that you can successfuly crossover to pop formats. I think we all agree that there have been albums with greater cultural impact, but then again, it depends on what you'd call 'cultural impact'.

Well if you mean more dance-pop / bubblegum pop eras I’m sure “The Fame” and “Oops I Did It Again” are the biggest pop eras of the millenium.

[InFamous]

I mean cultural impact isn’t something objective. The album was a massive success, it scored multiple radio hits and is still very remembered to the GP. Looks like it was an impactful album to me

Yeah I never questioned it's success in the pop realm or its success but to claim it had " cultural impact" is a bit too much IMO.

[spiritboy]

The last album that had any cultural impact was Selftitled by Beyoncé imo

[InFamous]

Smile is not even Gold in Australia. Huge success my ass.

And BTW “Smile” hasn’t outsold “Glory” in any market (except for Norway)

I guess Britney's "global" reach just didn't extend as far as Norway.

[aRat]

Katy Perry - One of the Boys

• RIAA: Platinum
• ARIA: 2× Platinum
• BPI: 2× Platinum
• BVMI: 3× Gold
• FIMI: Gold
• IFPI AUT: Platinum
• IFPI SWI: Gold
• MC: 3× Platinum
• RMNZ: Gold
• SNEP: 2× Platinum

OOPS. What's next bro ?

One Of The Bottoms was indeed very global (and her best album). Katy started becoming local with TD and its US centric sound.

[MrLeonix]

Katy Perry - One of the Boys

• RIAA: Platinum
• ARIA: 2× Platinum
• BPI: 2× Platinum
• BVMI: 3× Gold
• FIMI: Gold
• IFPI AUT: Platinum
• IFPI SWI: Gold
• MC: 3× Platinum
• RMNZ: Gold
• SNEP: 2× Platinum

OOPS. What's next bro ?

Enjoy it while her label decides to update it’s certification in US

It’ll go like 4x Platinum or 5x Platinum that day

[MrLeonix]

I guess Britney's "global" reach just didn't extend as far as Norway.

Well “Glory” shipped 40K in Brazil which is enough for Platinum in that market. And shipments are public and even registered through codes in Brazil.

[InFamous]

Comparing breasts? Really?

Well the gurls talk about male ass and D's all the time in here.
Obviously it was tongue in cheek.

[InFamous]

Well “Glory” shipped 40K in Brazil which is enough for Platinum in that market. And shipments are public and even registered through codes in Brazil.

I don't really care tbh.

[InFamous]

Enjoy it while her label decides to update it’s certification in US

It’ll go like 4x Platinum or 5x Platinum that day

No fear of that happening with My Perogative ( unsold)

[Enzolorenzo]

Reputation definitely had cultural impact. The release of LWYMMD was an event

[InFamous]

One Of The Bottoms was indeed very global (and her best album). Katy started becoming local with TD and its US centric sound.

All of TD's singles were Top 5 Top 10 in every European Market. Like stop inventing LIES

[MrLeonix]

No fear of that happening with My Perogative ( unsold)

It’s not like she needs or depends on “My Prerogative”. Brit Bot has like 7 other different albums waiting for certifications update.

You know .. she had more than 3 successful eras

[InFamous]

It’s not like she needs or depends on “My Prerogative”. Brit Bot has like 7 other different albums waiting for certifications update.

You know .. she had more than 3 successful eras

No no according to your criteria all of her eras were local to the US. Local. Apart from My Perogative. That is what you said and you can't change it now. Sorry

[Enzolorenzo]

No no according to your criteria all of her eras were local to the US. Local. Apart from My Perogative. That is what you said and you can't change it now. Sorry

Knee has diamond albums in South Korea and in the Philippines too. Looks like she was able to match her US success somewhere at least!

[MrLeonix]

No no according to your criteria all of her eras were local to the US. Local. Apart from My Perogative. That is what you said and you can't change it now. Sorry

Well ... not really

according to chartmasters “In The Zone” = 7 million pure sales worldwide (3 million in US).

ITZ sold more outside the US (and this is basically the case of “Britney”, “Blackout”, “Circus”, “Femme Fatale” and even her flops “BJ” and “Glory”)

all of her albums (except for the first two) sold more copies internationally than what they sold in the US.