Pop Talk - General Music Discussion

[BeeBoy]

I wonder why they didn't use this verse? Maybe it didn't fit their narrative? I wonder why it's not stated that half the writers come from the used sample?


I'm repping for the girls who taking over the world
Help me raise a glass for the college grads
41' Rollie to let you know what time it is, check
You can't hold me (you can't hold me)
I work my nine to five, better cut my check
This goes out to all the women getting it in, you on your grind
To all the men that respect what I do, please accept my shine
Boy, you know you love it
How we're smart enough to make these millions
Strong enough to bear the children (children)
Then get back to business
See, you better not play me (me)

Plus one is a 6 minute long ballad while the other is a 3 minute uptempo to uplift girls it never made sense to compare.

I could randomly pick out:


Gallileo, Gallileo
Gallileo, Gallileo
Gallileo Figaro, magnifico
I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
He's just a poor boy from a poor family
Spare him his life from this monstrosity
Easy come easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No, we will not let you go (let him go)
Bismillah! We will not let you go (let him go)
Bismillah! We will not let you go (let me go)
Will not let you go (let me go)
Never, never, never, never let me go
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
Oh, mama mia, mama mia
Mama mia, let me go

Now Run The World looks like the lyrical masterpiece.

[aRat]

Writing a song is not just writing the lyrics. Taylor has written entire albums and songs ( lyrics and music ) completely on her own.

Gotta give it to her the gud sis makes good lullabies

[aRat]

The hits keep on coming.

J gLObal has her shook and permanently seething phew

[InFamous]

Gotta give it to her the gud sis makes good lullabies

You can hate or love Taylor but she actually writes her own stuff. She brings written things to her co writers who then work with her from her ideas. This is the opposite of what Beyonce does, in which ideas are brought to her, then she makes changes and adds on.

Taylor is a bonafide writer.

[InFamous]

J gLObal has her shook and permanently seething phew

OMG I had never seen that before.

[aRat]

You can hate or love Taylor but she actually writes her own stuff. She brings written things to her co writers who then work with her from her ideas. This is the opposite of what Beyonce does, in which ideas are brought to her, then she makes changes and adds on.

Taylor is a bonafide writer.

I don't curr if that local girl writes her own stuff. The end result is still a complete uneventful bore to me.

Beyonce's stuff is vastly superior to Tayloo's even if she writes much less or not at all

[InFamous]

Who compared Run the World to Bohemian Rhapsody ?

[InFamous]

I don't curr if that local girl writes her own stuff. The end result is still a complete uneventful bore to me.

Beyonce's stuff is vastly superior to Tayloo's even if she writes much less or not at all

Well that's a completely seperate point and non pivotal to the songwriting discussion.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion on the quality of the material in question.

Bey for me splits right down the middle. She has some great stuff and also some utter trash. But then again that can be said for everyone except Katy.

She just serves qualitea..

[Aaronsmithjune1]

Katy doesn't shop around for tracks, she actually writes her own songs. She ain't Brit or Bey.

Well at this point in Kitty's career it's obvious Dr Luke was the mastermind behind her. Without him she reminds hitless and Grammyless

[InFamous]

Well at this point in Kitty's career it's obvious Dr Luke was the mastermind behind her. Without him she reminds hitless and Grammyless

Insert random producer/ demo girl and Thats Britneys entire career.

Katy was instrumental in the Dr Luke years. She brought a lot to the table.

She is a bonafide writer.

[Aaronsmithjune1]

Insert random producer/ demo girl and Thats Britneys entire career.

Katy was instrumental in the Dr Luke years. She brought a lot to the table.

She is a bonafide writer.

Explain the tragic mess post Dr Luke

[Goldmoney]

J gLObal has her shook and permanently seething phew

First year nominee. Good luck on J.No making the cut.

[InFamous]

Explain the tragic mess post Dr Luke

Never Really Over has 1.5 times as many streams as Britneys biggest song on Spotify. Witness singles have all been certified in the US and UK.
NRO outpeaked Make me, Daisies outpeaked Slumber Party.

If that is all "tragic mess", your girl is in dire straights.

[JeremySpears]

The fact that you have to compare a fifth album to a ninth album says so much lmfao.

Let’s see....

In the Zone:

#1, 8th best-selling album of 2003 worldwide, 3rd best-selling female album of 2004 in the US, at least 7 million copies sold worldwide, over 600k copies sold in its first week in the US alone, certified 2x Platinum, spawned the Grammy-winning, legendary classic "Toxic" which peaked at #9 and the Top 20 hit "Everytime", all singles were successful globally. Green on Metacritic.

Witness:

Debuted at #1 and left the Top 10 after one week, sold 311,000 copies in the US as of 2020, probably had her last real hit with "Chained to the Rhythm", maybe sold 900k units worldwide. Yellow on Metacritic.

Blackout:

Outsold "Smile" in its first day of availability alone, debuted at #2 with 290k copies, certified Platinum, spawned the hit singles "Gimme More" (#3 in the US) and "Piece of Me" (#18 in the US, critically acclaimed masterpiece that is credited with influencing pop music the following years, dubbed the Bible of Pop.

Smile:

Clown nose, debuted at #5 with 50k units even though several alternate versions of the album were available, spent one whole month on the Billboard 200, certified paper, left several charts after one week, had to add "Never Really Over" to get some streams and so that it would look like the album had a hit, 3 Bubbling Under smash hits, not even gonna estimate worldwide sales because that would be embarrassing. Katy is rocking her favorite color yellow on Metacritic again.


Katy is probably not even gonna make it til album #9 and her career lasted 5 whole seconds, her music is universally panned and yet a Katy Pussy out of all people is trying to come for Britney AND Beyoncé? This is hilarious.

[Goldmoney]

[likeidogoldlink]

but wow, what a f moment

Released 23 years ago, it sounds like music from 3098

[aRat]

First year nominee. Good luck on J.No making the cut.

Good luck to Maria to finally get over her obsession and unprovoked seething everytime J gLObal's name gets mentioned

[aRat]

but wow, what a f moment

Released 23 years ago, it sounds like music from 3098

A moment most pleasing to me. Can't wait for Dua to serve psychedelic excellence like this in the future

[InFamous]

Yikes at that meltdown from the "off key in my chorus" ( and verse) fan
Also anyone who follows charts and sales trends knows that comparing an album release in 2003 to an album release in 2020 makes absolutely zero sense.

Thank God Aaronsmithjune1 , the person I was actually talking to, has a sense of humour

[likeidogoldlink]

A moment most pleasing to me. Can't wait for Dua to serve psychedelic excellence like this in the future

Frozen - Birds of Prey - maybe Dua will record a song for the trinity of dark-ahead of time songs.

[Goldmoney]

Good luck to Maria to finally get over her obsession and unprovoked seething everytime J gLObal's name gets mentioned

It’s human nature sis. Even when she isn’t even crossing Kween’s mind, her name always gets brought up.

[InFamous]

A moment most pleasing to me. Can't wait for Dua to serve psychedelic excellence like this in the future

Have you heard Katy's psychadelic excellence ? There is a hint of Frozen in this track.

[InFamous]

Good luck to Maria to finally get over her obsession and unprovoked seething everytime J gLObal's name gets mentioned

I mean JLO isn't black so why would she get nominated for that.

[aRat]

It’s human nature sis. Even when she isn’t even crossing Kween’s mind, her name always gets brought up.

Maybe the hosts know that Maria is only interesting when she is fuming about J gLObe

[JeremySpears]

Yikes at that meltdown from the "off key in my chorus" ( and verse) fan
Also anyone who follows charts and sales trends knows that comparing an album release in 2003 to an album release in 2020 makes absolutely zero sense.

Thank God Aaronsmithjune1 , the person I was actually talking to, has a sense of humour

I was just waiting for the Selena comment. How predictable.

Just like comparing a fifth album to a ninth album makes no sense. We can also look at how Katy's peers Taylor and Lady Gaga are doing these days since you want to include other artists to make yourself feel better. Because I have a sense of humor too and I'd like to have a biiiig laugh with you.