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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Wait. So it sold less than 4m?

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post

    The funny thing that bionic wasn't the start of her decline. It took B2B years to cross 4 million z then the 4 year break after was the nail in the coffin
    I mean B2B was a double album so every sale counted as 2 ( at least in the US) for certification purposes.
    Last edited by InFamous; Mon January 25, 2021, 01:47.

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    One of Rihanna's best Rihab

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    i dunno i mean its not as if no one bought it like with Bionic
    The funny thing that bionic wasn't the start of her decline. It took B2B years to cross 4 million z then the 4 year break after was the nail in the coffin

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post

    3.5m in 2001 not a flop?
    i dunno i mean its not as if no one bought it like with Bionic

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    AL didn't flop in Europe. America tasteless as usual.
    3.5m in 2001 not a flop?

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Post another pop girl with a better technique

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post

    I wish they would've released every song on the album. I think everyone of them could have been a top 20
    Definitely, it was one of those no filler , record breaking, sensational albums. The combination of a singer/ songwriter and a top notch producer coming together to make absolute magic. Simply a timeless album.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post

    Madonna never really flopped outside of american life and her recent albums that was released in her 50s and clearly wasn't gonna be huge due to age
    AL didn't flop in Europe. America tasteless as usual.

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

    Madonna survived so many flops and backlashes, other women like can't relate. She survived Erotica & Sex book backlash which was a thousand times bigger than Janet's SB backlash. She survived American Life. Rebel Heart sold a respectable figure despite the horrible leaks. Even an album like Madame X did have good debuts worldwide. If physicals were still a thing, Madonna would score more hits and sold more albums.
    Madonna never really flopped outside of american life and her recent albums that was released in her 50s and clearly wasn't gonna be huge due to age

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  • MrLeonix
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    Madonna paved everything for the pop girls. Literally everything.

    Britney and Gaga caused huge waves when they arrived into the music scene but there’s no way they could have made anything without Madonna paving everything for them and basically every other female pop diva out there.

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    I listened to it all today for the first time in a while and it still sounds so fresh. I also listened to Prism which is a really great album from start to finish. She has some amazing overlooked work on that record.
    I wish they would've released every song on the album. I think everyone of them could have been a top 20

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

    Madonna survived so many flops and backlashes, other women like can't relate. She survived Erotica & Sex book backlash which was a thousand times bigger than Janet's SB backlash. She survived American Life. Rebel Heart sold a respectable figure despite the horrible leaks. Even an album like Madame X did have good debuts worldwide. If physicals were still a thing, Madonna would score more hits and sold more albums.
    This, she just didn't give a damn. I remember hearing that she went to some fashion show in Europe and bared both her breasts for a full minute. Europe didn't give a damn and this was back in like 92 or something. The way America couldn't handle a nipple in 2003

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post

    Then turn around and got 2 more. The most iconic album of the 2010s
    I listened to it all today for the first time in a while and it still sounds so fresh. I also listened to Prism which is a really great album from start to finish. She has some amazing overlooked work on that record.

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by RayRay View Post

    Best cameo: Debbie Gibson.
    Who?

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post

    It must've been an awesome feeling on Perry's side to know that the album's first 4 singles had already reached No. 1 and the best single was still to come .
    Then turn around and got 2 more. The most iconic album of the 2010s

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  • Aaronsmithjune1
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    Originally posted by TIfan View Post

    Legendary movie!!!
    Indeed. I watch it every few months

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  • theMathematician
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    Last year, multiple acts at 60+ actually scored successful albums, such as AC/DC, Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan - well, at least in Europe.
    There may be a bias towards female artists, but if there was to be any artist having a successful album at that age, it would be Madonna.

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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by aRat View Post

    Good point. Madonna used to spam something basically every year so it could have just a coincidence.

    However I really think she had a huge part in pop coming back in 2006. Literally no one was making dance pop records in 2005 and it was unthinkable that a whole album containing that sound would have any success at that time. Until Madonna did it and smashed with it and opened the market for other dance pop records to smash.
    Madonna survived so many flops and backlashes, other women like can't relate. She survived Erotica & Sex book backlash which was a thousand times bigger than Janet's SB backlash. She survived American Life. Rebel Heart sold a respectable figure despite the horrible leaks. Even an album like Madame X did have good debuts worldwide. If physicals were still a thing, Madonna would score more hits and sold more albums.

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  • likeidogoldlink
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    Originally posted by RayRay View Post
    Just imagine that we had streaming platforms in the 90's.
    The female list would probably look something like this:

    1. Mariah Carey
    2. Madonna
    3. Janet Jackson
    4. Whitney Houston
    5. Céline Dion
    6. TLC
    7. Toni Braxton
    8. Shania Twain
    9. Mary J. Blige
    10. Alanis Morissette
    11. Brandy
    12. Gloria Estefan
    13. SWV
    14. En Vogue
    15. Salt 'n' Pepa
    16. Monica
    17. Melissa Etheridge
    18. Vanessa Williams
    19. Sheryl Crow
    20. LeAnn Rimes
    21. Spice Girls
    22. Jewel
    23. Amy Grant
    24. Sarah McLachlan
    25. Paula Abdul
    26. Wilson Phillips
    27. Jade
    28. Cher
    29. Faith Hill
    30. Aaliyah

    https://rateyourmusic.com/list/abyss...de_in_the_usa/

    Favorite singers of the 80s like Madonna and Whitney are not included here.

    + missing women like Lauren, Missy and Lil Kim are in my top 5 (6).

    And Bjork... oh boy it's hard



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  • RayRay
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    Originally posted by RayRay View Post
    Just imagine that we had streaming platforms in the 90's.
    The female list would probably look something like this:

    1. Mariah Carey
    2. Madonna
    3. Janet Jackson
    4. Whitney Houston
    5. Céline Dion

    6. TLC
    7. Toni Braxton
    8. Shania Twain
    9. Mary J. Blige
    10. Alanis Morissette
    11. Brandy
    12. Gloria Estefan
    13. SWV
    14. En Vogue
    15. Salt 'n' Pepa
    16. Monica
    17. Melissa Etheridge
    18. Vanessa Williams
    19. Sheryl Crow
    20. LeAnn Rimes
    21. Spice Girls
    22. Jewel
    23. Amy Grant
    24. Sarah McLachlan
    25. Paula Abdul
    26. Wilson Phillips
    27. Jade
    28. Cher
    29. Faith Hill
    30. Aaliyah

    https://rateyourmusic.com/list/abyss...de_in_the_usa/
    I love Toni Braxton, Paula Abdul, Wilson Phillips, Gloria Estefan, Brandy and En Vogue. But choosing my Top 5 was easy. No doubt about it.

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  • RayRay
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    Originally posted by RayRay View Post
    Madonna's biggest decade was the 80's of course. She was everywhere, in every magazine, newspaper, tv-channel, radio station...

    Biggest female singers of the 80's:

    1. Madonna
    2. The Pointer Sisters
    3. Sheena Easton
    4. Pat Benatar
    5. Diana Ross
    6. Whitney Houston
    7. Olivia Newton-John
    8. Kim Carnes
    9. Cyndi Lauper
    10. Tina Turner
    11. Donna Summer
    12. Heart
    13. Laura Branigan
    14. Barbra Streisand
    15. Stevie Nicks
    16. Aretha Franklin
    17. Janet Jackson
    18. Debbie Gibson
    19. The Bangles
    20. Irene Cara
    My Top 5. Although I was in doubt whether I should include Cyndi Lauper or Diana Ross.

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by JSparksFan View Post

    Agreed. The Kanye remix is also spectacular.
    Yup.
    ET (Remix) > TOTGA > the rest

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  • likeidogoldlink
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    Originally posted by RayRay View Post
    Madonna's biggest decade was the 80's of course. She was everywhere, in every magazine, newspaper, tv-channel, radio station...

    Biggest female singers of the 80's:

    1. Madonna
    2. The Pointer Sisters
    3. Sheena Easton
    4. Pat Benatar
    5. Diana Ross
    6. Whitney Houston
    7. Olivia Newton-John
    8. Kim Carnes
    9. Cyndi Lauper
    10. Tina Turner
    11. Donna Summer
    12. Heart
    13. Laura Branigan
    14. Barbra Streisand
    15. Stevie Nicks
    16. Aretha Franklin
    17. Janet Jackson
    18. Debbie Gibson
    19. The Bangles
    20. Irene Cara
    My top 5.

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  • JSparksFan
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    Originally posted by aRat View Post
    ET is the best TD single by far.
    Agreed. The Kanye remix is also spectacular.

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