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  • 1992: Erotica
    2002: Dirrty
    2012(3): Miley
    2022: ???
    I honestly don't know who could record a controversial erotic video. Now I would only be shocked by porn video as a music video.

    Xtina / Nathy Peluso / Rosalía / Nina Simone / Lauren Hill

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    • All in all, it's a nice coincidence. All 3 are the most versatile of their generation.





      Pornpop = versatility
      Xtina / Nathy Peluso / Rosalía / Nina Simone / Lauren Hill

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      • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
        Is Jessie Ware popular stateside ? I had honestly never heard of her until last year.
        No, she is criminally neglected

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        • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post

          No, she is criminally neglected
          Not by the gheys which is all everyone should want
          DUA LIPA - RIHANNA - THE WEEKND - DOJA CAT
          98 - OUT

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          • Originally posted by aRat View Post

            Not by the gheys which is all everyone should want
            so that they can flop or what?
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            • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

              so that they can flop or what?
              Gheys are loyal. Look at you for example stanning hasbeen flops
              DUA LIPA - RIHANNA - THE WEEKND - DOJA CAT
              98 - OUT

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              • Originally posted by aRat View Post

                I stand correct, as ususal, I fear
                Not to mention the follow up was the 100 percent Karen One Sweet Day which was then followed by a cover of Open Arms by Journey
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                • Dua invented the "go girl give us nothing" meme which is more impacT than most of yall favorites I fear (especially InFamous ' fave)
                  DUA LIPA - RIHANNA - THE WEEKND - DOJA CAT
                  98 - OUT

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                  • Herpa wishes
                    Greatest Of All Time

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                    • Originally posted by aRat View Post
                      Dua invented the "go girl give us nothing" meme which is more impacT than most of yall favorites I fear (especially InFamous ' fave)
                      I don't feel I am invested enough in pop culture to have a fave. I have incredible knowledge yes, but that does not equal investment. I consider myself a very casual fan at best.
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                      • If Fantasy remix was the start of her Karen fanbase turning away, then Honey eradicated them. Kween knew she was sacrificing a huge chunk of her audience for her true artistic merit but she gave no fs.
                        Greatest Of All Time

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                        • I still think a Mariah vs Janet Versuz would be THE event. Also, Beyonce vs Usher.
                          Diva!!!

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                          • I was never really a fan of Honey tbh. Also it is not really that much of a departure from Fantasy. Still very pop leaning with a touch of R&B. Also Europe at that time was embracing that style of music - look at the huge success Whitney had with those My Love is your love singles - some of the most successful of her career. And of course Mariahs next single in Europe was the ballad Butterfly followed by My All. SO she veered a little off her usual lane but not that far away. And Rainbow was very ballady/pop overall. But the real change came with Glitter/ Charmb but even then she had Through the Rain for the European ballad audiences.
                            Last edited by InFamous; Fri June 25, 2021, 01:38.
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                            • Because songs like “Crybaby”, “Did I Do That?”, “Breakdown”, “X-Girlfriend”, “The Roof”, “Babydoll” etc. would have fit right in on Karen Box. Right.
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                              • Nobody heard those songs unless they purchased the album. This was 1997 and 1999 where there was almost no internet.
                                The singles serviced and released were mostly ballads with slight R&B infleunces. And that cannot be denied. Mariah was dueting with Westlife !
                                And as I pointed out Whitney thrived with her R&B in Europe at the same time. Mariah simply went through a career lull at that time after having had 7 years of monster success. Also Music Box was a once in a career sales figure - she was never going to repeat that no matter what she released in 1997 after already having had huge success with Daydream album. And there is plenty of AC fare on both Butterfly and Rainbow albums. And mostly, that is what was serviced to the public.

                                Btw this is one of her best tracks and criminally underrated. That lower register

                                Last edited by InFamous; Thu June 24, 2021, 21:56.
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                                • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
                                  Because songs like “Crybaby”, “Did I Do That?”, “Breakdown”, “X-Girlfriend”, “The Roof”, “Babydoll” etc. would have fit right in on Karen Box. Right.
                                  I wouldn't even respond to those two... they hate Mariah passionately and also hate her fans passionately. I'm too old to engage in vitriolic hatred. If they think Rainbow / Butterfly were AC albums... let them... it's only embarrassing them even further.
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                                  • “Rainbow” was definitely not AC LOL
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                                    • I stan so hard for Honey. It brings out the bitch in me.

                                      Also Mariah was one of the first artists who remixed her songs and made a whole new different song out of them.

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                                      • Such a classic. One of the most beautiful songs ever!
                                        Diva!!!

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                                        • Butterfly AC/ballad/pop tracks :

                                          Butterfly ( single)
                                          My All (single)
                                          Fourth of July
                                          Close My eyes
                                          Whenever you call
                                          Outside

                                          Ballad Singles from Number 1's album

                                          I Still Believe ( single)
                                          When you Believe ( single)
                                          Whenever you call with B McKnight ( promo single)

                                          Rainbow A/C/ballad/pop tracks

                                          Heartbreaker ( single)
                                          Cant take that away ( single)
                                          After tonight ( single)
                                          Against all odds ( single)
                                          Petals
                                          Rainbow
                                          Thank God I found you ( single)
                                          Mahogany Theme ( promo single)

                                          So a I said, while Mariah did experiment on her album cuts over Butterfly and Rainbow the side of herself that she mostly showed the audiences was her standard pop/ ballad style as can be seen by the list of singles she released. Remembering the only people who heard those deep album cuts were those who purchased the albums as this was pre internet times. This is extremely clear and anyone who denies it is just not being objective.


                                          Last edited by InFamous; Fri June 25, 2021, 02:00.
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                                          • Originally posted by spiritboy View Post
                                            I stan so hard for Honey. It brings out the bitch in me.

                                            Also Mariah was one of the first artists who remixed her songs and made a whole new different song out of them.
                                            True. She is known as the Queen of remixes for a reason. Her alternate versions and re imagined tracks are superb.

                                            This is incredible. Paying homage to the iconic Make it Last by Keith Sweat

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                                            • Originally posted by spiritboy View Post
                                              I stan so hard for Honey. It brings out the bitch in me.

                                              Also Mariah was one of the first artists who remixed her songs and made a whole new different song out of them.
                                              I absolutely didn't like Honey when it was originally released... and often skipped it... but in the past 20 years... I've grown to not only stan it, but worship it. It's a perfect Urban banger. The beat is unreal. I can feel it in my body when I blast the song through my incredible stereo system.
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                                              • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
                                                Imagine being the top selling Karen artist in the world and releasing this as your next lead single.
                                                Her best song. Mariah,ODB, Diddy and Kelly price snapped. that run she did going into ODB verse never not slays me

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                                                • Wow never knew JLO did this song live, she was hittin those sustained notes

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                                                  • Everything J.Lo does regarding her projects or works just suck big time for me (or well at least I think it’s horrible), her albums, songs, movies, or whatever she is in is just not for me and I find it incredibly bad.

                                                    However I really like J.Lo as a person, and I think she’s stunning (beautiful) and genuinely smart (probably one of the smartest celebrities out there), I also think she’s by far the best (out of the pop girls) on interviews, she’s a top business woman and a great dancer / performer.
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