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  • Kitty def had some singles that would have never been #1 without the gimmicky remixes (“Last Friday Night” , “E.T”, etc) or the massive amount of payola that not even P!nk ever managed to have.

    Once Dr.Luke was out the payola ended and she crashed.
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    • Rihanna should release Sexuality in 2009. This song is a huge banger that I love.

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      • The TGIF release had all sort of gimmicks - what are you talking about. The label most definitely knew they couldn't miss a shot to match MJ. They had that campy video with the Friday girl, they discounted the single to 49 cents on iTunes back when that mattered, and had a remix.

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        • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
          BoB for the TOTGA remix tho for that last attempt at #1 tho? Did homegirl not get that it wasn’t 2010 anymore? Who was going to buy a remix with that flat earther on it? The 6th that got away.
          Never even heard of it . I generally listen to the acoustic flawless version of that track.

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          • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post
            The TGIF release had all sort of gimmicks - what are you talking about. The label most definitely knew they couldn't miss a shot to match MJ. They had that campy video with the Friday girl, they discounted the single to 49 cents on iTunes back when that mattered, and had a remix.
            OMG a video, a remix and a discounted single. Shocking.

            Since when does a video or a remix count as a gimmick.
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            • Since always

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              • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post
                The TGIF release had all sort of gimmicks - what are you talking about. The label most definitely knew they couldn't miss a shot to match MJ. They had that campy video with the Friday girl, they discounted the single to 49 cents on iTunes back when that mattered, and had a remix.
                Not to mention the ridiculous amount of payola she got. Her label and Luke negociated massive radio deals but not the average radio deal …. Radio deals that were never seen before.

                … And yeah, LFN would have never hit #1 in any sense in normal conditions.
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                • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post
                  Since always
                  Ok Miss Cheap thrills featuring Sean Paul remix, which also had a performance video AND a lyric video, various discounts and two versions counting for the charts for its entire chart run.
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                  • But wasn’t “Cheap Thrills” remix released the same day the song was released as a single (since day 1) though?

                    What Kitty did with LFN was very different.
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                    • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                      Ok Miss Cheap thrills featuring Sean Paul remix, which also had a performance video AND a lyric video, various discounts and two versions counting for the charts for its entire chart run.

                      Oh yeah Cheap Thrills was a weak #1 for sure. Maybe one of the weakest I can remember and it needed all the help it could get. But I never made claims Sia doesn't do gimmicks.

                      I mean, if your point is that other artists do gimmicks like Katy, I don't think you're blowing anyone's mind there.

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                      • MrS. One of the most reliable insiders saying b7 will most likely be B's last. I'm happy for her and sad at the same time.

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                        • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post


                          Oh yeah Cheap Thrills was a weak #1 for sure. Maybe one of the weakest I can remember and it needed all the help it could get. But I never made claims Sia doesn't do gimmicks.

                          I mean, if your point is that other artists do gimmicks like Katy, I don't think you're blowing anyone's mind there.
                          Not really. It's just your point that someone releasing a video or a remix counts as a gimmick is just wrong because every artist shoots a video for their singles and does a remix. That's just standard.

                          Doing 8 remixes at 39 cent and 8 different videos on release week for a single now that's a gimmick.

                          I would hope you can see the difference.
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                          • Originally posted by Aaronsmithjune1 View Post
                            MrS. One of the most reliable insiders saying b7 will most likely be B's last. I'm happy for her and sad at the same time.
                            What that bish can't be serious.

                            Well at least yall still getting one last project then. Us navies can't relate
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                            • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                              Not really. It's just your point that someone releasing a video or a remix counts as a gimmick is just wrong because every artist shoots a video for their singles and does a remix. That's just standard.

                              Doing 8 remixes at 39 cent and 8 different videos on release week for a single now that's a gimmick.

                              I would hope you can see the difference.
                              That's a high standard for a gimmick.

                              My point isn't wrong. Your standards are just relative.

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                              • Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post

                                That's a high standard for a gimmick.

                                My point isn't wrong. Your standards are just relative.
                                Yes it is seeing as every artist had a video and a remix. Ergo not gimmicks. Just standard fare for a single release I fear.
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                                • It's not a gimmick when Katy does it. Got it.

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                                  • Nokia's career is over. In this house we stream the only good Nicki - Nicki Nicole. Argentine queen of rap.



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                                    • Originally posted by aRat View Post

                                      What that bish can't be serious.

                                      Well at least yall still getting one last project then. Us navies can't relate
                                      Do you think Rihanna even remembers how to sing these days?
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                                      • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                        Do you think Rihanna even remembers how to sing these days?
                                        Do you mean that she turned into a Katy Perry?
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                                        • The first Kween interview I ever watched. A few days later, I bought the album, got reacquainted with GOAT and never looked back.

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                                          • Originally posted by aRat View Post

                                            Do you mean that she turned into a Katy Perry?
                                            Katy can sing any of the plastic pop gurls under the table sweetie.
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                                            • Originally posted by aRat View Post

                                              Do you mean that she turned into a Katy Perry?
                                              In order to turn into that you would need to have no grammys, be panned, have no taste and being a fad and flop after 3 albums.

                                              And Rihanna ain’t any of that
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                                              • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                                Do you think Rihanna even remembers how to sing these days?
                                                Has she ever?
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                                                • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                                                  Kitty def had some singles that would have never been #1 without the gimmicky remixes (“Last Friday Night” , “E.T”, etc) or the massive amount of payola that not even P!nk ever managed to have.

                                                  Once Dr.Luke was out the payola ended and she crashed.
                                                  This is not true. All of her #1s spent multiple weeks there and were #1 in radio and sales. It's not like she got S&M type of #1.

                                                  E.T.
                                                  *Hot 100 : 42-//[x26]-28-08-08-03-02-01-01-01-02-01-01-02-02-02-03-03-04-05-07-07-10-12-14-20-23-32-37-42-47-//
                                                  *Hot Digital Songs : 19-//[x26]-12-04-05-01-01-01-01-01-02-01-01-02-03-03-07-06-10-11-13-17-17-25-29-34-35-41-44-51-67-71-//

                                                  #4 On YEC
                                                  #40 DEC
                                                  #166 ATC

                                                  Calling out E.T. as fake #1 at this point is a joke.

                                                  LFN
                                                  Hot 100 : 67-//(x41)-63-31-04-04-04-04-03-02-02-02-01-01-05-10-12-13-15-18-25-30-37-38-39-//
                                                  *Hot Digital Songs : 29-//(x41)-62-28-01-01-02-02-03-02-03-05-04-04-14-17-21-25-27-34-42-49-52-64-61-//-//-74-//-//-58-55-75-//
                                                  Remix did boost LFN to #1, but it stayed there next week when remix was already out of itunes top 100...

                                                  #14 YEC

                                                  Katy's career ended due to horrible management, long break just when market switched from digital to streaming and she was never gonna last since even at her peak she never had any kind of fanbase to rely on, she appealed to GP that moved on to next thing.

                                                  P!nk is the best example of payola, I mean who listens to her these days? She's the biggest sellout in history, has zero artistry and integrity left in her. And unlike Katy I'm pretty sure P!nk was singled out by radio executives recently as artist who uses payola.

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                                                  • Originally posted by Westen View Post

                                                    This is not true. All of her #1s spent multiple weeks there and were #1 in radio and sales. It's not like she got S&M type of #1.

                                                    E.T.
                                                    *Hot 100 : 42-//[x26]-28-08-08-03-02-01-01-01-02-01-01-02-02-02-03-03-04-05-07-07-10-12-14-20-23-32-37-42-47-//
                                                    *Hot Digital Songs : 19-//[x26]-12-04-05-01-01-01-01-01-02-01-01-02-03-03-07-06-10-11-13-17-17-25-29-34-35-41-44-51-67-71-//

                                                    #4 On YEC
                                                    #40 DEC
                                                    #166 ATC
                                                    ET was that bitch. Still slaps hard.

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