Coronavirus outbreak

[stevyy]

What irks me... is that businesses... want to return to normal, ie ending home office mandates... etc... so even IF people want to be cautious and protect themselves and try to avoid people during the pandemic... they probably can't. And that is frustrating...

I mean it could be worth a try to open everything and see if people can protect themselves on their own terms... But too many people are forced into crowded places... and that is not OK.

Honestly, I have no idea how we could win in this fight against Covid-19. I think we eventually won't. I've read that only a little of 1% of African populations have been vaccinated... and that means that over 1,2 billion people on that continent alone still aren't... and you know, with all the mutations going on... it is only a matter of time until we have one strain that is not responding to the current vaccines anymore.

Maybe this rather simple disease could become a trigger for another wave of evolution and wipe 90% of all humanity out and produces a stronger new-type of human... idk... but the situation is looking very grim at the moment...

The history books will also show that we brought this on our own... by not reaction, or doing too little too late. We are still putting economy over human lives... and that why we will always lose and can't have good things.

[InFamous]

I just don’t think it matters anymore when the restrictions are “officially” lifted - so many people are doing what they want regardless, my main gripe is that I wish face masks remained as official guidance for a few more weeks.

It really only matters in terms of what's left to open. When it comes to masks, meetings, socialising etc people have been doing whatever they want to for months at this stage .

[InFamous]

The UK death toll will probably reach one million… eventually. It’s not like it’s going to be that before Christmas. Media and scientist scaremongering is so boring.

Let's hope the death toll never reaches anything close to a million. Either before or after Christmas.

[Thriller]

And yes, it is political, because most of the people who are demanding an end to restrictions will be Boris’ voters.

[Thriller]

The UK death toll will probably reach one million… eventually. It’s not like it’s going to be that before Christmas. Media and scientist scaremongering is so boring.

[Wayne]

I just don’t think it matters anymore when the restrictions are “officially” lifted - so many people are doing what they want regardless, my main gripe is that I wish face masks remained as official guidance for a few more weeks.

[Robby]

Anyway stay safe Robby

you too, and everyone else as well!

[InFamous]

Karl is smart, but also annoying af

At least he has one thing going for him then.

[theMathematician]

He may be smart, but his rhetorics are awful. He always assumes the worst case scenario and presents him in the most dramatic way. He is hardcore pro measurements. What also needs to be mentioned: He studied medicine and medical economics but has never really worked as either a medical doctor or a virologist, which is why the media refer to him as 'health expert'. I still don't know why he gets more media attention than the health minister or 'real' virologists. Oh yeah, and he loves the media attention. He was nowhere pre-Corona, and now can be seen in every 2nd freaking type of media discussing Corona in some way.
He recently said 'The UEFA is responsible for the death of people.'. Yeah, it was them who forced the people to get into the stadions . His views come across as a bit socialist, as if the people were too dumb to make decisions on their own and need to be 'rescued' by him. It's not as if Germany had a bad history with that...

[Rihab]

Karl is smart, but also annoying af

[InFamous]

Only Nazi Hooligans are switching on him.

interesting.

[stevyy]

That explains why people switch on him so much maybe

Only Nazi Hooligans are switching on him.

[stevyy]

Lauterbach is the man I recently mentioned who could even outdo my friend stevyy in terms of drama. Every week he seems to come up with some horrible nightmare stories that end up not happening. The only time he was actually positive was when he predicted a summer without big worries. He never smiles, always dead serious, and recently announced that he would like to become the next health minister (There was a time when he was in the media more often than the health minister himself.).

stevyy : What does MPG mean? The things I found online make no sense in this context, like Max Planck Gymnasium.

MPG = Major Pop Girl, ie the biggest and most impactful politician (recently).

[InFamous]

aww... Karl Lauterbach is such a MPG. I love ha.

That explains why people switch on him so much maybe

[theMathematician]

Lauterbach is the man I recently mentioned who could even outdo my friend stevyy in terms of drama. Every week he seems to come up with some horrible nightmare stories that end up not happening. The only time he was actually positive was when he predicted a summer without big worries. He never smiles, always dead serious, and recently announced that he would like to become the next health minister (There was a time when he was in the media more often than the health minister himself.).

stevyy : What does MPG mean? The things I found online make no sense in this context, like Max Planck Gymnasium.

[stevyy]

aww... Karl Lauterbach is such a MPG. I love ha.

[InFamous]

Mr Lauterbach on herd immunity:
This correlates to what stevyy said the other day !

Like many others, Lauterbach is urging to intensify the German vaccination campaign. At least 85% of 12-to-59-year-olds and 90% of people over 60 would have to be fully vaccinated to create herd immunity. As of July 8, only 40% of the population is fully vaccinated in Germany. Among people older than 60, that number is 67%.

[theMathematician]

Seems like you know pretty well about who is vaccinated and who is not .
Anyway, just because booster vaccinations are discussed does not mean that there is political or even scientific consensus about them.

[InFamous]

No numbers reported in Spain today - big update coming I fear..

[theMathematician]

I think spiritboy showed interest in a 3rd vaccination, didn't he?
Experts suggest that a 3rd vaccination is not necessary any time soon, unless you've got a really bad immune system. Vaccinations are supposed to have a lasting effect and too much vaccination can actually harm the immune system. Pharma companies are, however, interested in earning money, and therefore are pushing towards a 3rd dose (source).

[InFamous]

Some might say they should have done more. I'd be more interested in seeing what the hospital admission rate is going to be before making any judgements. This number is usually delayed by a few days to a week so by next week it should become clear what this Delta variant is doing to the population. So far it doesn't seem to translate to the hospitals.

Also, summer holidays have started in earnest and the dutch are starting to travel out of country I've seen some images of the main airport Schiphol....chile...Europe, brace yourself

Anyway stay safe Robby

[theMathematician]

There's not any ultimate definition of a lockdowns; there are ones that are stricter and ones that are looser. For me lockdown is when infrastucture is forced to close. Then there's also quarantine and curfew - two different things. In this case: Clubs and properly other businesses are forced to close by state regulations. If I was a club owner or a bartender, hell yeah I would call that lockdown.
If everything was open but there's a limit of people allowed in, I would not call that a lockdown.

[InFamous]

Some might say they should have done more. I'd be more interested in seeing what the hospital admission rate is going to be before making any judgements. This number is usually delayed by a few days to a week so by next week it should become clear what this Delta variant is doing to the population. So far it doesn't seem to translate to the hospitals.

Also, summer holidays have started in earnest and the dutch are starting to travel out of country I've seen some images of the main airport Schiphol....chile...Europe, brace yourself

That airport is utter insanity. Imagine trying to social distance there !!

[Robby]

Some might say they should have done more. I'd be more interested in seeing what the hospital admission rate is going to be before making any judgements. This number is usually delayed by a few days to a week so by next week it should become clear what this Delta variant is doing to the population. So far it doesn't seem to translate to the hospitals.

Also, summer holidays have started in earnest and the dutch are starting to travel out of country I've seen some images of the main airport Schiphol....chile...Europe, brace yourself

[InFamous]

Infections today at 10.345 ............... 10th of july.......

Oh wow, big increase. The government absolutely did the right thing in shutting clubs and limiting other things.