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  • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

    I do not want to imagine millions of people dying. (neither should you). The thing is, even 1 person dying is bad enough and yet we have almost 2,9 million people who have died so far. Soon, we will hit 3 million. That are 3 million people who would have otherwise continued living. Maybe this numbers sounds small to you, but to me, this is a catastrophe of the nighest level imaginable.

    It's also not comparable to heart diseases, strokes, car accidents or cancer... because you cannot catch those fates simply by breathing air.
    Completely agree.
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    • Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
      Every illness with a death rate higher than 0 means that there will be cases of death, but I believe that the current rate is very motivating. You need to see it that way: Only 3% of all Germans have experienced a Corona infection thus far. And even within that small group, the current rate of heavy cases is less than 5% with currently not even 1% dying. Corona is not a death sentence (anymore) for most people. Imagine what the situation would be like if the death rate was 20%, 40% or even more, which is the case with some kinds of cancer!
      Why don't you try catching covid-19 and spread it to your parents so that you can have first hand experience of learning whether the virus is mortal or not?
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      • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
        India have reported over 90000 new cases today and Turkey are approaching 45000, the biggest daily increase for both countries yet.

        Stay safe spiritboy .
        Thanks. Turkey has become a big fat mess thanks to those who govern us. I hope i'll be able to get out of this hell someday.
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        • Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

          Why don't you try catching covid-19 and spread it to your parents so that you can have first hand experience of learning whether the virus is mortal or not?
          It is just such a horrible attitude. There are many people ( me included) who actually knew people who died from Coronavirus and to see death constantly being dismissed as meaningless or unimportant is just so distasteful to me.
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          • Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

            Why don't you try catching covid-19 and spread it to your parents so that you can have first hand experience of learning whether the virus is mortal or not?
            This is my biggest fear tbh. I don't care about me dying of Covid or any other disease...(it would be unfortunate tho), but I couldn't continue living when anything happened to my parents. That would be my undoing. And so, I have to continue living with fear of what could happen in the future if we don't get this under control. I don't wish this on anybody, but I know that many people go through this every day as well.

            There are tons of examples on the internet of families who have lost someone to Corona and my heart breaks for them bc I have empathy. I always think that everyone would feel empathy, but what I have learned on my time on this planet is that there are people out there who do not comprehend the concept of death, pain and agony.



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            • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

              It is just such a horrible attitude. There are many people ( me included) who actually knew people who died from Coronavirus and to see death constantly being dismissed as meaningless or unimportant is just so distasteful to me.
              It's literally the worst approach. It scares me that there are people out there who are seeing these numbers and think this is not "too bad". It scares me bc I always think that those people must have a psychological defect of some sort.
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              • France have reported over 60000 new cases today. What the hell are they doing there ? I actually fear for Paris at this point.
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                • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                  France have reported over 60000 new cases today. What the hell are they doing there ? I actually fear for Paris at this point.
                  They've just entered another lockdown... in 10 days or so, we will begin seeing these numbers going down. But I do think it's crazy too. France doesn't seem to get the upper hand. I really wish that China wouldn't have waited months in order to make Covid public. Just thinking about it turns me into a hooligan.
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                  • @spiritboy: I'm not sure whether you could call Corona a mortal disease as that sounds like death is evident. It's rather a disease that ends mortal in rare cases. I had a mild case of Corona in the family. I don't want to catch any illness (Obviously, I mean, why should I ^^ ?), but if I caught Corona, I would be relieved knowing that, based on official statistics, I'll most likely experience a mild case - especially considering my health status.

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                    • Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
                      @spiritboy: I'm not sure whether you could call Corona a mortal disease as that sounds like death is evident. It's rather a disease that ends mortal in rare cases. I had a mild case of Corona in the family. I don't want to catch any illness (Obviously, I mean, why should I ^^ ?), but if I caught Corona, I would be relieved knowing that, based on official statistics, I'll most likely experience a mild case - especially considering my health status.
                      It is one of the most deadly diseases for at least OLDER people and people who are immune compromised. When it gets into retirement homes... then certain death is imminent for "some" people there... and that's a risk nobody should live with.

                      ONLY because you might surive it - albeit long-covid is a thing too - doesn't mean that other people can enjoy those who are not so fortunate. There are also cases of sporty and fit people who just died from it. So, you never know.
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                      • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                        It is one of the most deadly diseases for at least OLDER people and people who are immune compromised. When it gets into retirement homes... then certain death is imminent for "some" people there... and that's a risk nobody should live with.

                        ONLY because you might surive it - albeit long-covid is a thing too - doesn't mean that other people can enjoy those who are not so fortunate. There are also cases of sporty and fit people who just died from it. So, you never know.
                        It comes back to the same thing you touched on earlier, complete and utter lack of empathy for other people. The " as long as nothing bad happens to me" it doesn't matter about anyone else.
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                        • Got my second shot of Biontech today, so I am in the clear... my sister is vaccinated, my parents got their first Astrazeneca shot today.... making progress. I now fear "only" for my wife who cannot get vaccinated because she is pregnant right now....

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                          • Boris is speaking at 5 today, about a foreign travel traffic light system to allow holidays and a “covid certification” scheme which is being piloted in the near future.

                            All of it proving highly controversial, especially if they bring in such passports that rule out young people, who haven’t even been offered the vaccine yet, the chance of freedom.

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                            • The wider testing is hugely significant and interesting.

                              Covid: PM to set out latest lockdown easing in England

                              Boris Johnson is expected to unveil a traffic light system for foreign travel in an update on measures for easing Covid restrictions in England.

                              The prime minister is to make a series of announcements on changes to lockdown rules at a Downing Street briefing.

                              More detail might be given on the possible use of Covid certificates to access services or events domestically.

                              He will also say if non-essential shops can reopen and restaurants can start serving outdoors from 12 April.

                              Other changes in stage two of England's roadmapinclude:
                              • Close-contact services such as hairdressers and barbers can reopen
                              • Gyms and spas can reopen, as can zoos, theme parks, libraries and community centres
                              • Members of the same household can take a holiday in England in self-contained accommodation
                              • Weddings attended by up to 15 people can take place
                              Mr Johnson will be joined by chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance and England's chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty at the Downing Street briefing at 17:00 BST.

                              The government has also announced plans for everyone in England to be given access to two rapid coronavirus tests a week from Friday, in an expansion of its testing programme.

                              Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56637472

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                              • I’ve still never had a test, they sound horrible. Will try and go as long as I can without!

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                                • Originally posted by Thriller View Post
                                  I’ve still never had a test, they sound horrible. Will try and go as long as I can without!
                                  Thank god I never had to take one either.
                                  One of my pupils, who is 6, already had four in the past six months. Poor little guy
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                                  • Originally posted by Thriller View Post
                                    I’ve still never had a test, they sound horrible. Will try and go as long as I can without!
                                    Well that’s not helpful Michael - the whole point of this lateral flow testing is to test those without symptoms.

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                                    • I don’t see anyone! But when (if) I start going to gigs and large events again I’ll have to suck it up. Now the lateral flow tests are much more accurate I’m more inclined to use them too.

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                                      • Boris has confirmed...

                                        Next stage of lockdown easing in England to go ahead on 12 April

                                        With the four tests for easing the lockdown in England met, the prime minister confirms the next stage of the roadmap for relaxing restrictions can go ahead.

                                        This means that from 12 April:
                                        • Non-essential shops and close-contact services such as hairdressers and barbers can reopen
                                        • Restaurants and pubs can start serving customers outdoors, with no requirement for a substantial meal to be served alongside alcohol, and no curfew. However, people will have to eat and drink while seated
                                        • Gyms and spas can reopen, as can zoos, theme parks, libraries and community centres
                                        • Members of the same household can take a holiday in England in self-contained accommodation
                                        • Weddings attended by up to 15 people can take place
                                        • The number of care home visitors allowed will increase to two per resident
                                        • All children will be able to attend any indoor children's activity, including sport
                                        • Parent and child groups of up to 15 people (not counting children aged under five years old) can restart indoors
                                        People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise domestic travel. International holidays are still illegal.

                                        Outdoor gatherings must still be limited to six people or two households and you must not socialise indoors with anyone you do not live with or have not formed a support bubble with.

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56637289

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                                        • Boris says we’re “some way off” implementing any sort of Covid certification in the UK - let’s hope it stays that way.

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                                          • Massive steps forward to have so much back open and running so soon.
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                                            • Originally posted by Thriller View Post
                                              I’ve still never had a test, they sound horrible. Will try and go as long as I can without!
                                              I agree. I only heard recently about what it involves. Yeeeughhhh, about as bad as going to the clap clinic. Other than the recent changes with taking tests at schools, workplaces etc...I thought before we were only supposed to get tested if we were displaying any symptoms, which is why I haven't had any tests thus far.


                                              I'm a bit conflicted with the passports thing. On one hand I think it's important that people do get vaccinated, for others around them as well as themselves, however, some people are genuinely worried about the vaccine, and people do have a right to decided what is and isn't injected into their bodies, and I'm not sure how I feel about those that choose not to be vaccinated getting refused entry to places.

                                              Something else I've been thinking, If the biggest worry is a strain on our health system, I wonder how people would feel about funded their own treatments if they choose not to be vaccinated.
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                                              • I'm against denying people who are not vaccinated (yet) access to places for a couple of reasons:
                                                a) We are talking about recently developed vaccines, and people should have the right to wait how this will evolve.
                                                b) Data protection is important, and I don't want everyone out there to know my health status.
                                                c) Strictly by law, vaccinations are legitimated injuries. There is only one case when I want any other person to legitimate injuries on my body and that's when I'm unconscioua and they try to save my life. Beyond that: My body, my choice!

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                                                • I have a friend which has multiple sclerosis and cannot be vaccinated. She cannot leave the house anymore because she is very vulnerable to the virus to start with. Your body your choice my ass. We live in society, there are social rules you need to abide by. Being a viral vector is not acceptable. Being vaccinated is not just for you.
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                                                  • Originally posted by DnBLover View Post
                                                    I have a friend which has multiple sclerosis and cannot be vaccinated. She cannot leave the house anymore because she is very vulnerable to the virus to start with. Your body your choice my ass. We live in society, there are social rules you need to abide by. Being a viral vector is not acceptable. Being vaccinated is not just for you.
                                                    I wonder what that will mean for your friend with regards to a “vaccine passport”, a reason why I think I disagree with them, I guess I feel that everyone who can have a vaccine should have one so that we can all get out freedoms back.
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