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  • Still seems like low death figures in comparison, hopefully we won't see that start to rise, perhaps there's been an increase in testing? If there continues a high infection rate but low death rate perhaps the virus isn't worth the continued disruption.
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    • Originally posted by SholasBoy View Post
      Still seems like low death figures in comparison, hopefully we won't see that start to rise, perhaps there's been an increase in testing? If there continues a high infection rate but low death rate perhaps the virus isn't worth the continued disruption.
      Well not meaning to be crude, but people aren't going to die straight away. However, it seems that there is an increase in numbers between younger adults, due to the reopening of bars and stuff and for most of those people death should not happen, just an illness from which they will recover. So yes, hopefully there wont be a big number of deaths again.

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      • Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
        Considering that Corona seriously impacted 4 months ago, it seems weird to imagine how people didn't get infected when it started becoming a real thing only to get it now after all this time... Feels like all those people are kind of late to the party.
        Because governments imposed lockdowns and measures to curb the spread of the virus and now that those measures are being relaxed, in some places there has been a second resurgence.

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        • The deaths began to rise everywhere, in 2-3 weeks we may have 10k worldwide daily.
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          • Spain now over 2000 cases for the second day in a row, France second day in a row with a 1000 plus update, slight rise in the UK with 800 plus.

            Update:
            Catalonia orders all nightclubs to close again.

            "Today's order by the region's civil protection agency also banned musical events with dance floors and imposed a midnight curfew on gambling establishments, casinos, bingo halls, bars and restaurants and their terraces, and music bars."
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            • The UK have reinstated the 14 day quarantine rule for any people coming back from Spain as of 11pm tonight!

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              • Originally posted by Thriller View Post
                The UK have reinstated the 14 day quarantine rule for any people coming back from Spain as of 11pm tonight!
                I just saw that. That is pretty major. They have included the Canaries and Balearic islands also. I think the Canary islands are a bit of an overreaction seeing as they are geographically nowhere near Spain and have very low case numbers.

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                • I think this is yet another complete misfire from the UK government. The audacity of them to think people are in more danger in the Canaries or Balearics than they are here. Devastating again for airlines who are trying to do right by their customers but keep having the goalposts moved. Thankfully it sounds like there is a chance of the islands becoming exempt again thanks to talks between the Canary president and the UK government, either way, I will still go. Will just have to wrestle me on the plane to bring me back to this mess country.
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                  • The UK government have been 10 steps behind every single day during this pandemic.

                    I really believe the only reason we went into lockdown was to protect the government - it didn’t want to be the one that finally broke the NHS. I dread to think what would happen in the UK if the NHS had got to a position where it had to admit defeat and refuse treatment to anyone who had COVID-19.

                    The NHS is one of the foundations of our culture and society I don’t know what happens if it couldn’t treat people in need, especially as almost all workers pay National Insurance.

                    But ever since the NHS got things back under control all messages from the government have been completely mixed. Ultimately the government wants us all to keep calm and carry on and so long as the NHS is okay everything is essentially fine.

                    It really makes me wonder if they’re still pushing ahead with their globally ridiculed herd immunity plan, just under the guise of much smoke and many mirrors.
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                    • Well, which methods are there?
                      - hammer and dance
                      - herd immunity
                      - strict lockdown

                      Basically every method has been used by different countries and afaik, none had optimal results. It's basically just trying out all kinds of things in order to find one whose consequences are ethical.
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                      • Originally posted by SholasBoy View Post
                        I think this is yet another complete misfire from the UK government. The audacity of them to think people are in more danger in the Canaries or Balearics than they are here. Devastating again for airlines who are trying to do right by their customers but keep having the goalposts moved. Thankfully it sounds like there is a chance of the islands becoming exempt again thanks to talks between the Canary president and the UK government, either way, I will still go. Will just have to wrestle me on the plane to bring me back to this mess country.
                        I agree with this. I would have no issue going to the Canaries either. All the new cases and breakouts are in mainland Spain. It's silly to not see The Canaries as seperate entities ( due to their location ) as opposed to lumping them in with Spain ( even though in terms of governing they are under the Spanish control but still) It would be like saying you cannot go to Martinique ( french Island in the Caribeann) if there was something going on in France. Illogical.

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                        • Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
                          Well, which methods are there?
                          - hammer and dance
                          - herd immunity
                          - strict lockdown

                          Basically every method has been used by different countries and afaik, none had optimal results. It's basically just trying out all kinds of things in order to find one whose consequences are ethical.
                          I get that countries are making it up as they go along, but the UK is suffering from real leadership imo.

                          We didn’t shut borders in time, we weren’t quarantining people when they came back, we weren’t testing people. One rule for the people, another for government aides. I mean the UK government only decided 2 days ago face masks should be compulsory in shops, weeks after they all re-opened.

                          Once lockdown was announced I thought they were stepping up (late) but dealing with it - and when Boris was hospitalised with it I thought he’d come back fighting even harder. But no, ever since he’s been a bit of a wet blanket actually.

                          He is very lucky there isn’t a general election for another 4 years. When we get through this and the inevitable parliamentary inquiry into how we handled this is conducted, this government is not going to come out of it smelling of roses.

                          Now on top of all this it seems we’re also heading for a no-deal Brexit after all.
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                          • Victoria continues to be uncontrollable, High 400's + 10 deaths yesterday, 532 new cases + 6 deaths reported today. Masks are now ciompulsory down there, with videos coming up filmed by typical SJW 'Karen' types antagonising staff members and the police with 'it's against the charter of Human rights to discriminate against me like this, It dosent apply to me..' and other such BS. Like... STFU and comply for the good of everyone geez... absolute morons. Thankfully they've put the kibosh on plans for another BLM protest I think in NSW soon (although there's appeals happening IIRC).

                            That said thankfully NSW appears to be containing the clusters here, keeping at under around 20 new cases per day.

                            I also realise even with population ratio we are kinda lucky with the numbers compared to some of the figures coming from other countries, but it's still a little unnerving (especially the situation in Victoria atm).

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                              It's pretty bad here in Melbourne! the anti maskers are coming out of the woodwork and making it a little embarrassing. The public are pushing to close Melbourne down but they aren't gonna do it, they are hoping masks are gonna do something. 530 cases here today so things don't seem to be improving at all, worst day so far.
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                          • A (quite buff) guy was snapped walking down Oxford Street in London the other day with just a face mask to cover himself. It is alleged that he was protesting against mask wearing on the face. The pics are hillarious.
                            Disclaimer - contains a bare bottomed man - NSFW

                            Link ( including pics)
                            https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...box=1595611594

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                            • Germany in July:

                              01 - 492
                              02 - 393
                              03 - 283
                              04 - 418
                              05 - 140
                              06 - 499
                              07 - 298
                              08 - 410
                              09 - 433
                              10 - 390
                              11 - 224
                              12 - 138
                              13 - 486
                              14 - 330
                              15 - 486
                              16 - 584
                              17 - 509
                              18 - 227
                              19 - 273
                              20 - 642
                              21 - 403
                              22 - 580
                              23 - 672
                              24 - 818
                              25 - 372
                              26 - 409
                              27 - 638

                              Atrocious numbers in the past 2 weeks. Wave 2 will be devastating.
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                              • Belgium the latest country to tighten back up on restrictions after a surge of cases.

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                                • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                  A (quite buff) guy was snapped walking down Oxford Street in London the other day with just a face mask to cover himself. It is alleged that he was protesting against mask wearing on the face. The pics are hillarious.
                                  Disclaimer - contains a bare bottomed man - NSFW

                                  Link ( including pics)
                                  https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...box=1595611594
                                  The idea of walking the streets of London (or any other city or even small town or village) barefoot wakes up the hypochondriac in me...
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                                  • Originally posted by jio View Post

                                    The idea of walking the streets of London (or any other city or even small town or village) barefoot wakes up the hypochondriac in me...
                                    I know right. At least wear an open toed sandal or add a mask to each sole !

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                                    • UK government were supposed to be in talks with Canaries and Balearics to hopefully stop the need to self isolate, but in a cruel twist of fate, the FCO has now ADDED them to mainland Spain in the list of countries they advise against all but essential travel. The audacity of our government to suggest these places with an excellent track record our less safe than the UK. How on earth is any travel company supposed to survive with this farce. Jet2, Ryanair and TUI have gone from being airlines to understaffed call centres.
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                                      • Originally posted by SholasBoy View Post
                                        UK government were supposed to be in talks with Canaries and Balearics to hopefully stop the need to self isolate, but in a cruel twist of fate, the FCO has now ADDED them to mainland Spain in the list of countries they advise against all but essential travel. The audacity of our government to suggest these places with an excellent track record our less safe than the UK. How on earth is any travel company supposed to survive with this farce. Jet2, Ryanair and TUI have gone from being airlines to understaffed call centres.
                                        ^ So where does that leave your holiday plans ?

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                                        • Well at the minute I believe Jet2 are cancelling flights until the 17th, I’m due to go on 22nd so it’s still up in the air like everything else this year will possibly change to Italy or Greece if they extend it. Some people are questioning whether this is a dick move from the UK because of Brexit but I dunno there’s very strange logic. How did a conversation with Spanish leaders with facts about the islands proven record result in them toughening measures even further
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                                          • ^ I honestly think, and I am not even saying this ironically, that when people are in the Canaries they genuinely think they are in Spain. I went there once with an ex in December and he kept rambling on about how great it was to have this kind of heat in Spain in December. Eventually on day 3 or perhaps day 4 I cracked and as politely as I could explained to him that we were actually off the coast of Africa, nowhere near bloody Spain. I wonder if the UK governement know this because honestly, going by the figures, it literally makes no sense. Greece is great in the summer though, i really want to go there.

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                                            • Exactly right, in fact the UK is closer to Barcelona than the Canaries are
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                                              • Some restrictions are put in place again in Belgium, on the national level heavy restrictions on social contact (max. The 5 same persons for 4 weeks, max. 10 if u can meet in open space, distance, etc. and Only shop individually etc.). In my province we even have extra restrictions like a curfew (11pm-6am), face masks on all the time, working at home obliged, fitness etc. closed (again),... I am not ready mentally, it is frustrating even though I understand the necessity. We have been spoiled I guess. Feels so powerless. It becomes very heavy loaded at times sigh. It what it is...
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                                                • Originally posted by SholasBoy View Post
                                                  Exactly right, in fact the UK is closer to Barcelona than the Canaries are
                                                  Unless they are potentially worried about a load of people from mainland Spain heading to the Canaries on holidays and then potentially mixing with Brits ?

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                                                  • Originally posted by Michiel View Post
                                                    Some restrictions are put in place again in Belgium, on the national level heavy restrictions on social contact (max. The 5 same persons for 4 weeks, max. 10 if u can meet in open space, distance, etc. and Only shop individually etc.). In my province we even have extra restrictions like a curfew (11pm-6am), face masks on all the time, working at home obliged, fitness etc. closed (again),... I am not ready mentally, it is frustrating even though I understand the necessity. We have been spoiled I guess. Feels so powerless. It becomes very heavy loaded at times sigh. It what it is...
                                                    Sorry to hear that. It is definitely hard to have to take a step back again when it has seemed like the virus is under control.

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                                                    • +638 new cases in GER today. We need a nationwide lockdown right now. or else, the 2nd wave will potentially dissolve the federal republic.
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                                                      • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                                        +638 new cases in GER today. We need a nationwide lockdown right now. or else, the 2nd wave will potentially dissolve the federal republic.
                                                        It it goes back up close to 1000 and stays there for a few days I would be worried.

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                                                          • I was in Amsterdam last week and my partner and me were shocked how many tourists there are and how no one seems to care about Corona. There are even several places where you couldn't pay with card, you had to pay with cash, which had me shocked because basically no one pays with cash anymore where I live (at least from the young/er demographic).

                                                            The flight was only around an hour so wearing a mask during that time (or for 2-3 hours in total, going to the airport with a taxi and wearing it at the airport as well) was actually ok, there's worse. I never use public transportation so that was my first time wearing a mask a little longer, and I was positively surprised. Except for the smell that starts to come up at some point, really don't know how I would feel if I had to wear a mask on a flight to Asia or so that takes way longer...

                                                            Anyways, what I wanted to write is that I'm shocked how people in Amsterdam didn't seem to care at all. The restrictions were ridiculous and no one even cared about those most of the time (like social distancing, for example). There are also tons of people not caring about social distancing and other restrictions over here, but Amsterdam was on a worse level. So thinking about how this may be the case in several places, I'm really worried and not surprised at all if a second wave is coming in just a very few weeks, when all summer vacations end.

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                                                              No one pays with cash in your region anymore? How sad... In Germany, cash is highly prioritisized and at least the older demographics have trust issues regarding paying with card.

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                                                              Why is that sad? Not everything has to stay the way they are, sometimes things need to move on
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