U.K. Politics: Boris Johnson referred to police (AGAIN) over potential Covid rule breaches

[jordi_89]

I very much doubt it will happen; our electoral system does not support the Labour Party achieving a so-called "red wall" - their victory in 1997 was extraordinary, as was their 2001 result. But since 1906, Labour have won 10 general elections and been in power for 30 years (out of 117 years) - the Conservatives will have been in power for 70 years (out of the last 119) if they continue in power until Jan-2025. Our voting system requires electoral reform to make it fairer, as currently, it benefits the Conservatives.

Labour may very well get a very good popular vote result but I'd be very surprised if that automatically translated into a majority government.

Because many seats (constituencies?) are rural areas with a small population (that tends to vote Tory), right?

[Wayne]

After everything that's happened, how did the Tories still get over 2200 seats? Not looking good for the "red wave" that's supposed to happen in the next General election.

I very much doubt it will happen; our electoral system does not support the Labour Party achieving a so-called "red wall" - their victory in 1997 was extraordinary, as was their 2001 result. But since 1906, Labour have won 10 general elections and been in power for 30 years (out of 117 years) - the Conservatives will have been in power for 70 years (out of the last 119) if they continue in power until Jan-2025. Our voting system requires electoral reform to make it fairer, as currently, it benefits the Conservatives.

Labour may very well get a very good popular vote result but I'd be very surprised if that automatically translated into a majority government.

[jordi_89]

After everything that's happened, how did the Tories still get over 2200 seats? Not looking good for the "red wave" that's supposed to happen in the next General election.

[Wayne]

Coverage of the Coronation of King Charles III has essentially muted the local election results (much to the delight of the Conservatives, I'm sure). In summary, we're at 8,042 seats and 229 councils declared so far - we have just 8 seats and 1 council left to declare - here's where we currently stand:

• Labour: 2,674 (+536).
• Conservatives: 2,299 (-1,061).
• Liberal Democrats: 1,626 (+405).
• Independents: 874 (-80).
• Green Party: 481 (+241).
• Residents Association: 88 (-24).

The Conservatives have lost control of 48 councils (and they now control 33 councils). Labour have won control 22 councils, boosting their total to 71. It was also a good night for the Liberal Democrats (who now control 29 councils, up 12 on 2019).

It definitely wasn't the Labour whitewash that many expected - but it was the Conservative battering that many expected. I think it was Sky News that said that if this results translated in a General Election, it would give Labour around 298 seats - they'd be the biggest party but would rule as a minority government or would have to form a coalition with another party.

[Wayne]

Sky News state that Labour would be short of a majority in the next election, if their results are similar - but that Sir Keir would likely be Prime Minister.

[Thriller]

The thing that worries me the most is the media gunning for Labour again and brainwashing people into thinking the Tories are right for the country again. The GP have terribly short memories and are far too forgiving.

[SholasBoy]

So glad to see Labour doing so well, this bodes well for the next general election if Labour MP's can keep Jewish people out of their damn mouths in the meantime. This should have been the results of the last election if the Tories hadn't conned everyone into Brexit.

[Thriller]

So glad the Tories have topped 1,000 losses and really encouraging to see the gains outside of Labour, BUT if we want a new majority in the next GE we really need Labour to work on building this momentum and get their policies and manifesto sorted.

[Artoo]

Great news, but Conservatives still won around a third of the available seats, with Labour doing only slightly better overall. The general election is still around twenty months away but using this split (to do an incredibly crude and inaccurate calculation), we’re looking at another hung parliament.

[Wayne]

It’s official, the Conservatives have lost over 1,000 seats!

7,700 seats have been declared - 350 are left! And the Conservatives are currently suffering losses of 1,013 seats.

[Wayne]

Also of note - the Green Party has won its first ever majority in a local council (with 22 out of 34 seats in the Mid Suffolk District Council). A fine result, and while it is true that they have run councils before, this represents the first council they will run with a majority - I think it could be the opening they have been looking for in terms of showing what they can do if in power.

[Wayne]

With 6,790 seats declared and 1,260 seats still to be declared, the Conservatives are up to 895 seats lost - more than I thought they’d suffer. But Labour, while technically being the biggest party in local government, is not the runaway winner that I think it would like to be - both the Liberal Democrat’s and the Green Party combined have done better than Labour so far.

My summary comments above I think still stand at this point - an okay night for Labour, a rubbish night for the Conservatives and a good night for both the Liberal Democrat’s and the Green Party.

[Artoo]

They’ve lost 862 according to the BBC, with plenty of results left to help get them over the 1000 game over line.

[Wayne]

So far, the Conservatives have lost over 600 seats - still 3,000 seats to be declared.

[greek_boy]

The Lib Dems have seized control of Stratford-on-Avon, Windsor and Maidenhead, after a showing hailed by the party leader Sir Ed Davey as "ground-breaking"


The Conservatives have suffered losses in two key councils this afternoon, with the Lib Dems taking Stratford-on-Avon, and a little earlier Labour taking control of Swindon Borough Council. .

Watch the moment Labour councillors celebrated their first victory there in 20 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65147839

Impressive!

[Artoo]

I always find it odd how the results come in so sporadically and late in some cases - I worked on the count in 2019 for Wolverhampton’s locals and we had were all done counting by 3am so why does it take so many more hours for them to be confirmed?

According to the BBC, most councils don’t count overnight so that would probably explain it?

I know the results are positive so far, but it’s not yet the thrashing I was hoping for either.

[Artoo]

I always find it odd how the results come in so sporadically and late in some cases - I worked on the count in 2019 for Wolverhampton’s locals and we had were all done counting by 3am so why does it take so many more hours for them to be confirmed?

According to the BBC, most councils don’t count overnight so that would probably explain it?

I know the results are positive so far, but it’s not yet the thrashing I was hoping for either.

[Thriller]

I always find it odd how the results come in so sporadically and late in some cases - I worked on the count in 2019 for Wolverhampton’s locals and we had were all done counting by 3am so why does it take so many more hours for them to be confirmed?

[Wayne]

So far, it definitely looks to be an okay night for Labour, a rubbish night for the Tories, a good night for both the Liberal Democrat’s and the Greens. But there is a long way to go!

[Thombus]

I voted Labour (as I usually do, bar a handful of times - Corbyn ). Feel better for it this time around, I like Starmer's Labour. Interested to see how the Tories do, given all the sleeze of the last 12 months.

[SholasBoy]

I voted labour too, though my area is usually comfortably conservative, and was dubbed "Brexit Town" at one point, but oh well, I guess change will never come if we don't vote.

[Thriller]

Labour, the sensible vote in my area where the council has been Labour-controlled for 50 years, plus they were the ‘tactical vote’ for my ward.

Polling station was pretty dead but they always seem
to be for the locals!

I asked one of the officers if they’d had many people forget their ID and she said a small handful and most of them had come back later. All so unnecessary though and will be interesting to see if there’s any actual impact - Twitter is rife with horror stories today, but I take them all with a pinch of salt.

[bm08]

omg totally forgot today was election day and only remembered after seeing this thread.

Thankfully, the polling station is a 5 minute walk from my house so I just got back.

I reluctantly voted Labour, but they are honestly on thin ice with me.

[Wayne]

So how have U.K. voters voted today?

I very begrudgingly voted for Labour - to be fair, my area is fairly safely in Labour hands in terms of local governance (though our MP is Conservative).

Any predictions on how things will pan out? I expect that the Conservatives will lose between 500-700 seats and if towards the lower end of that number, they’ll attempt to spin that as some sort of success. I expect Labour will pick up the majority of those but I’d love to see more growth in Liberal Democrat counsellors.

[greek_boy]

I am still very torn over who to vote for though one thing is abundantly clear, if I want the Tories out, I have to tactically vote Labour.

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