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  • Honestly, I thought he was right to keep his head down at the start and not just begin mindlessly attacking Boris with a pandemic happening - I allowed some time for him to get his house in order and build a new vision of what Labour should be whilst Boris deals with the pandemic (which is basically political suicide). But he’s done nothing and yet again we have a leader unworthy of the job and unable to lead Labour to victory.

    Labour is finished. It has absolutely no one in the wings waiting. Honestly, at this point I’m prepared to even let Diane Abbott have a go - she can’t do much worse. Labour sealed its own fate allowing Gordon Brown the top job and then stabbing David Miliband in the back by picking his brother.

    I don’t know why Labour or the Conservatives went back to the far left and right but in doing so it’s screwed both parties and this country. Yes, the Conservatives have a majority right now, but they’ve spent the last seven years in utter chaos internally which bled out onto the world stage - how we dealt with Brexit was utterly shameful, the whole cronyism scandal was stupid and the utter incompetence of Hancock has cost the tax payer millions. Don’t get me started on Boris and his antics.

    The only real political stability we’ve had in the last 25 years has been when both Labour and the Conservatives relaxed their positions and moved towards the centre. I honestly think we need a new centrist party ready to fight for the whole country (the Lib Dems are finished too). But we also need a party that can put up a fight in Scotland too - the SNP have got it far too good, and whilst Boris focuses on Westminster and Labour continues to be MIA, Sturgeon keeps pushing that independence agenda.
    Bleep Bloop Blop

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    • Fascinating to watch this!

      I gasped seeing people talk over the Queen - it’s so notable.

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      • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
        Honestly, I thought he was right to keep his head down at the start and not just begin mindlessly attacking Boris with a pandemic happening - I allowed some time for him to get his house in order and build a new vision of what Labour should be whilst Boris deals with the pandemic (which is basically political suicide). But he’s done nothing and yet again we have a leader unworthy of the job and unable to lead Labour to victory.

        Labour is finished. It has absolutely no one in the wings waiting. Honestly, at this point I’m prepared to even let Diane Abbott have a go - she can’t do much worse. Labour sealed its own fate allowing Gordon Brown the top job and then stabbing David Miliband in the back by picking his brother.

        I don’t know why Labour or the Conservatives went back to the far left and right but in doing so it’s screwed both parties and this country. Yes, the Conservatives have a majority right now, but they’ve spent the last seven years in utter chaos internally which bled out onto the world stage - how we dealt with Brexit was utterly shameful, the whole cronyism scandal was stupid and the utter incompetence of Hancock has cost the tax payer millions. Don’t get me started on Boris and his antics.

        The only real political stability we’ve had in the last 25 years has been when both Labour and the Conservatives relaxed their positions and moved towards the centre. I honestly think we need a new centrist party ready to fight for the whole country (the Lib Dems are finished too). But we also need a party that can put up a fight in Scotland too - the SNP have got it far too good, and whilst Boris focuses on Westminster and Labour continues to be MIA, Sturgeon keeps pushing that independence agenda.
        the only sane choice is for the underdog LibDems to smash those two loser big money parties
        but in a perfect world UK would have been governed by Monster Raving Loony Party, they make more sense than this BoJo calamity of a PM
        Waffles are checked cookies

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        • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
          He really is as bad as Corbyn for the Labour Party's prospects.
          Labour should get Tony Blair back, he's got a pact with the devil (Murdoch) himself, suddenly The Sun and Daily Mail will start praising him and his "vision".
          Waffles are checked cookies

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          • Originally posted by Wayne View Post


            Fascinating to watch this!

            I gasped seeing people talk over the Queen - it’s so notable.
            I know nobody was perfect back then but the powers that be seemed to carry themselves with a level of respect that we just don’t see anymore. I think it sets an example to the nation too, which is why we’ve seen division and bigotry on the rise because of who we’ve got at the top.

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            • This will not land well if it’s true.

              Most people will not see beyond the headline (realising that MP pay rates are set independently).

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              • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                He really is as bad as Corbyn for the Labour Party's prospects.


                Party membership down by 120,000 to 430,000 since Kier took over as leader. It’s spent millions of pounds defending legal battles.

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                • Dead as a dodo. But there are plenty of good people in Labour who could form something new.

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                  • Originally posted by Wayne View Post



                    Party membership down by 120,000 to 430,000 since Kier took over as leader. It’s spent millions of pounds defending legal battles.
                    omg wow! i wonder which party they are going to support after Labour?

                    Keir has to resign sooner or later or a new party has to emerge and form a coalition with Greens and Dem Libs

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                    • Originally posted by greek_boy View Post
                      Keir has to resign sooner or later or a new party has to emerge and form a coalition with Greens and Dem Libs
                      Kier resigning doesn’t fix the bigger problem of Labour having no one who could win an election.

                      Any new party forming a coalition with the Greens and Lib Dems is utterly pointless, as the Greens and Lib Dems only have a combined 13 seats (and the reason the Lib Dems is so damaged is because of their poor performance in a coalition).

                      A new centrist party needs to replace the Lib Dems and take votes from Labour, the Conservatives and the SNP. No small task.
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                      • It is devastating that there is no worthwhile alternative to the tories as things stand. How is that even possible.
                        1 Inna |2 Camila Cabello|3 Wizkid |4 Coldplay |5 Kevin McKay

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                        • I do wonder what the next election results will look like. Boris will have to deal with the Covid fallout and Labour might gain ground purely on the fact people voted Conservative to give them a majority last time, as a way of getting Brexit done.

                          I’ve always said the country votes Tory when finances need fixing and Labour when we need societal progression. We are now in a place where both are desperately needed, so I have no idea how the voting will go next time.
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                          • Hilarious

                            See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
                            See The Report Card - Weekly Top Songs

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                            • That mirrors his skills in running the country.

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                              • You couldn’t make it up - hope that 21-strong brigade make a difference.

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                                • Priti, you need better PR stunts than this if you want them to work.
                                  Bleep Bloop Blop

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                                  • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
                                    Priti, you need better PR stunts than this if you want them to work.
                                    that happens when you have really limited resources for a show-off
                                    Waffles are checked cookies

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                                    • She’s probably panicking that they’ll lose their homes and want to migrate to the UK.
                                      Keep an eye on Dan. Promise me you can. He gets out of hand if you let him…

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                                      • Originally posted by Wayne View Post


                                        You couldn’t make it up - hope that 21-strong brigade make a difference.
                                        I have a bucket. Will fill it with water and send it over. Hope it helps.

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                                        • They are so preoccupied fighting among themselves, that they are omitting to effectively hold the government of the day to account - it’s scandalous. The desire to get an unelectable man like Corbyn back into the party and as leader is just astounding - it’s almost like they want to forever be the opposition party.

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                                            • good to see phil collins still getting work
                                              what's going on?

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                                              • Labour needs to find a young, handsome, Love Island hunk type of a leader to properly contrast with BoJo, UK seems to love that.
                                                Waffles are checked cookies

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                                                • Someone please, just create a new centrist or left party. Seriously, Labour hasn’t a clue.
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                                                  • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
                                                    Someone please, just create a new centrist or left party. Seriously, Labour hasn’t a clue.
                                                    LibDems shouldn't get back to Nick Clegg-ish style of a "fancy third way empty suit" leader
                                                    Waffles are checked cookies

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