U.K. Politics: Gary Lineker v the BBC

[Artoo]

I highly doubt that. 2nd referendum, customs union and Labour alt plan were by far the most popular options in Wednesday's vote and there's literally no way that any of them could happen this fast.

If we needed to, a referendum literally could be called and take place within a week. We might need to yet, now there’s a council meeting on 10th April.

The fact is though that the EU won’t just let us walk away without them getting anything out of us. The deal on the table included £39bn towards the EU budget and they’ll want it.

But I wish they’d just tell us ‘no extension’ and we leave without. I’m so sick of it all.

[beredy]

I think EU will easily let go without a deal.

[Artoo]

I think EU will easily let go without a deal.

I hope so.

[Thriller]

So much for the 29th March

[Artoo]

In other news, The Independent Group formally apply to become a political party - Change UK Party - with Heidi Allen as interim leader.

Change.org objecting to it

I don’t know much about them just yet - who does? - but a centrist party is something I could get behind.

[MusicRecords]

Poor Theresa...I wonder how any melatonins she needs to fall asleep at night

So what does the lizard say during all of this? or does it even care?

[Artoo]

Poor Theresa...I wonder how any melatonins she needs to fall asleep at night

So what does the lizard say during all of this? or does it even care?

If you want answers do the google. No one here is going to pander to you.

[MusicRecords]

If you want answers do the google.

Haaaaa don't be silly, I don't care THAT much...I'm just here for the drama

[Artoo]

Haaaaa don't be silly, I don't care THAT much...I'm just here for the drama

We know.

So unless you have anything to add, questions you want to raise to seriously engage in the conversation or anything to - god forbid - stimulate discussion, please don’t bother the grown ups.

[MusicRecords]

We know.

So unless you have anything to add, questions you want to raise to seriously engage in the conversation or anything to - god forbid - stimulate discussion, please don’t bother the grown ups.

Haha what stimulates you anyway?

[heppolo]

I think EU will easily let go without a deal.

EU is asking for the money though

[Kpop]

EU is asking for the money though

Indeed: the myth promoted by charlatens like Johnson and Rees-Mogg is that the UK does not need to pay the EU the settlement bill if there is no deal.


Talking about Mogg, here he is being destroyed on Newsnight for his U-turn on slavery


https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...y-deal-8845256

[aRat]

The EU better get that money

[beredy]

EU is asking for the money though

Indeed: the myth promoted by charlatens like Johnson and Rees-Mogg is that the UK does not need to pay the EU the settlement bill if there is no deal.


Talking about Mogg, here he is being destroyed on Newsnight for his U-turn on slavery


https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...y-deal-8845256

That's why I replied to menime123 that EU isn't hung up about the deal or no deal situation.

[Artoo]

There’s a difference between what we have to pay though - the deal involved additional funds for the transitional period after we left.

I’d rather we paid £100bn and left yesterday than drag this out though

[heppolo]

The EU better get that money

UK might be their most commercially successful release

[Artoo]

I give up. You can’t make this up. MPs keep telling the PM er deal was terrible and they were better options. They take control and vote against every alternative they’ve all banged on about for the last few months. We leave in 11 days with no way forward other than the default no deal scenario.

[Kpop]

Indeed: the myth promoted by charlatens like Johnson and Rees-Mogg is that the UK does not need to pay the EU the settlement bill if there is no deal.


Talking about Mogg, here he is being destroyed on Newsnight for his U-turn on slavery


https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...y-deal-8845256

Flip-flop Mogg

[heppolo]

JRM is just serving his interests, pure and simple.

[Artoo]

JRM is someone who will never become more than just a backbencher.

[beredy]

I give up. You can’t make this up. MPs keep telling the PM er deal was terrible and they were better options. They take control and vote against every alternative they’ve all banged on about for the last few months. We leave in 11 days with no way forward other than the default no deal scenario.

And while UK is making fools out of themselves with these votes and saying no to ALL possible solutions and finally showing that it's their own failure of leadership and democracy that got them where they are now, jio is nowhere to be found to make it seem like this is all being set up by the evil EU who is somehow forcing UK to do all this.

[heppolo]

JRM is someone who will never become more than just a backbencher.

who knows, maybe Tories are devoid of any strong characters willing to take the leadership (bar BoJo and Gove) at this point

[Artoo]

You could easily argue that if the EU had been willing to re-negotiate the deal and listen to why MPs can’t back it, we wouldn’t be in this mess either... and this could have happened months ago. But the EU have been quite resolute that it is this deal - and only this deal - that they support.

[Artoo]

who knows, maybe Tories are devoid of any strong characters willing to take the leadership (bar BoJo and Gove) at this point

Raab I think stands a shot, as does Javid.

[beredy]

You could easily argue that if the EU had been willing to re-negotiate the deal and listen to why MPs can’t back it, we wouldn’t be in this mess either... and this could have happened months ago. But the EU have been quite resolute that it is this deal - and only this deal - that they support.

But EU has been clear on the issue for months. And UK acted like they could get it the other way and they realize they wasted all this time to try and make the deal work or prepare for a no deal exit. Now they scramble for anything and there's no time for anything anymore.