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  • Brad
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    Originally posted by Brad
    Originally posted by Wayne
    the country will prosper under a Conservative government.
    I think it's delusional to think this country will prosper under a Tory government so I'll bookmark this.
    Please do bookmark it; I'll look forward to our discussion in 5 years time!

    Hopefully you won't have been banned.
    Done 5 years already without being banned so I'm sure I can do it again. It won't take 5 to point out you were wrong though.

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by Brad
    Originally posted by Wayne
    the country will prosper under a Conservative government.
    I think it's delusional to think this country will prosper under a Tory government so I'll bookmark this.
    Please do bookmark it; I'll look forward to our discussion in 5 years time!

    Hopefully you won't have been banned.

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  • Brad
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    the country will prosper under a Conservative government.
    I think it's delusional to think this country will prosper under a Tory government so I'll bookmark this.

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  • Graham76man
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    My sources tell me that this Torry Government will last under two years and after that they will struggle to get back in
    It's a kind of prediction

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  • Wayne
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    PS how cool is this?

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by Brad
    Professional? You should see some of her recent interviews.

    The woman is a closet racist.
    I think I know which interviews you're on about, but I don't agree - and if she once was, she isn't now.

    I am a Theresa May fan; I like women in power and as the second most powerful woman in Britain, she does a great job. However, she comes across as short-tempered in interviews.

    Originally posted by Brad
    Tragic result in general. I hope the country is ready to suffer along with many of its people.
    See, this is where your argument loses steam - the country will prosper under a Conservative government. There will be some hardship which is inevitable, and it won't always be right or sit right with my own personal values, but on the whole - we'd have been doomed under Labour.

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  • Marius
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    Originally posted by Airwrecka
    Originally posted by UKMusicLova
    I'm definitely happier with a Tories government over a Labour one (especially one lead by Milliband). However I was hoping for Lib Dems presence still to keep David Cameron in check...but this has happened before across Europe where the smaller part of a coalition government is wiped out.
    I didn't know that; although it's not really something I'd thought of, to be honest. Do you know of any examples? I would be interested to read a bit more.
    The FDP in Germany is the first example that comes to mind. From being the CDU partner in a coalition to not making the threshold for entering the Bundestag (5% i think) in one electoral cycle.

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  • AceReject
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    Originally posted by Brad
    Professional? You should see some of her recent interviews.

    The woman is a closet racist.
    Perhaps you could point me in the direction of some evidence, please? I'm always happy to consider other people's opinions and challenge my own accordingly if there's a good basis to them.

    Originally posted by UKMusicLova
    I'm definitely happier with a Tories government over a Labour one (especially one lead by Milliband). However I was hoping for Lib Dems presence still to keep David Cameron in check...but this has happened before across Europe where the smaller part of a coalition government is wiped out.
    I didn't know that; although it's not really something I'd thought of, to be honest. Do you know of any examples? I would be interested to read a bit more.

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  • UKMusicLova
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    I'm definitely happier with a Tories government over a Labour one (especially one lead by Milliband). However I was hoping for Lib Dems presence still to keep David Cameron in check...but this has happened before across Europe where the smaller part of a coalition government is wiped out.

    UKIP are going to be really pushing for electoral reform, with the huge number of votes they had. I see where they are coming from I guess because between them and Greens they had 5 million voters but 2 seats between them. Still on this occassion, I'm glad because otherwise we'd have had much more horrid UKIP MPs

    SNPs - what a night for them! Almost wiped out the Westminster institutions out of Scotland. Disappointingly for them, they won't have a great deal of power now there is a Tories majority. Still might benefit them in the long run....

    It will definitely be a rocky road for the Tories though with such a small majority. It is not uncommon for them for their MPs to jump ship, not to mention their opinionated back benchers. David Cameron might need to keep the DUPs very close by

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  • oasisbobo
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    What a night for the SNP! So pleased for every single person who voted SNP. I thought they would be well to get 50 seats but 56 out of 59??

    Also Scottish people wasn't the reason the Torries won. Scotland has never had an affect on the Labour/Conservative governments at Westmonster. Labour lost this election themselves or should I say the majority of English people would rather Cameron as prime minister than Miliband simple as that.

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  • Brad
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    Originally posted by Airwrecka
    So pleased that Theresa May and George Osbourne are staying put in the cabinet reshuffle. I think May in particular has done a great job in what is a notoriously challenging position. I know a lot of people dislike her, but personally I've found her to be both professional and competent in the role.
    Professional? You should see some of her recent interviews.

    The woman is a closet racist.


    Tragic result in general. I hope the country is ready to suffer along with many of its people.

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  • Marius
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    Quite a decent outcome in the end, considering what could have happened...

    Not the biggest Tory fan, but, in the end, i am glad they have won; they deserved it for the state of the economy, their reform of the school system and the cuts to the welfare bill. Now maybe they can start cutting some income / dividend tax rates - i've had enough of paying tens of thousands of pounds every 7 January or so! In an ideal world they'd also drop their stupid referendum and obsession with help to buy, but i doubt we'd see that.

    LibDems - i have for a short while liked (and i still think they have some great people ie David Laws and even that Cable old hag), but they disgusted me in the last two weeks when all Clegg could say was "we'd go into bed with Tory, with Labour, does not matter, just as long as we get a piece of the pie"

    Labour - maybe it will now dawn on them that unions, price controls, final salary pensions in the public sector and sympathy for people on benefits have fallen out of favour. Hopefully they will replace Milli with someone like Tony Blair who can turn the party into Tories without the nastiness, xenophobia and focus on rich landowners. Then they will win again.

    UKIP - LOL. Good riddance, racist f*cks. Sadly, we haven't seen the last of Farage, since i reckon he plans to run again for party leader in September.

    SNP - i have warmed to them, since they are the reason Labour did not win. Apart from that, i don't get why they want to be part of the Parliament of a country they want to leave. I do not think they should vote on anything that does not affect Scotland.

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  • AceReject
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    So pleased that Theresa May and George Osbourne are staying put in the cabinet reshuffle. I think May in particular has done a great job in what is a notoriously challenging position. I know a lot of people dislike her, but personally I've found her to be both professional and competent in the role.

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  • Graham76man
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    Hitler got to power on 37% of the vote.... Sorry Cameron got to power on 37% of the vote.

    Personally you be hard pressed to spot the difference - I can't

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  • Storyteller
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    I won't pretend to know anything about this election but I am glad Miliband hasn't become prime minister, he always came across as an enormous prat when ever he was on TV.

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  • navi
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    Originally posted by Airwrecka
    Hahaha Farage has resigned.
    Farage isn't a problem,
    problem are the nearly 4 million Brits that thinks the same what Farage is speaking,
    fascism is on the rise throughout the Europe (Croatia too),
    So disappointed with the results of the election :evil:

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  • Wayne
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    Conservatives have the 326.

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  • AceReject
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    Thank you for your answer, Wayne. I meant occasional by-elections from incumbent's deaths or resignations. But yeah, I've seen the Speaker / Sinn Fein absences referenced on the BBC, so your stance does seem logical.

    For what it's worth, I'm pleased that the Conservatives look set to achieve a majority. At this time of great political change and uncertainty, I think stability from Cameron's government is imperative. For me personally, I feel far more comfortable staying with the Conservatives than a Labour / SNP alliance; but it really is a matter of personal circumstance.

    This whole election result has been absolutely fascinating.

    Glad Miliband resigned. I never understood how he ever became party leader tbh.

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by Airwrecka
    I have a question. Maybe Wayne can help me?

    Hypothetically, if the Conservatives get a majority of just a couple of seats, and then lost a few MPs through subsequent by-elections, thus taking them under a majority, what would happen? Would they continue as a "minority"?
    Well, there's not as many Labour/Conservative marginal seats as expected and so I'm not sure that a by-election would even be on the cards - certainly not in the next 12 months, as Labour will be scrambling to get a new leader in that time and will want to put forth a new, more centrist [or less leftie] vision.

    The SNP can't really grow anymore.

    UKIP will be the real challenge to Conservative rule; if their popularity continues to climb, and they get their wishes on voting reform, we might just get a little quirk somewhere down the line.

    If say the Conservatives lost 5 MPs and it took them to say 326 [based on BBC forecast of 331 final], even if this happened, it would take the concerted efforts of EVERY other party combined to beat them. Why? Well it is Sinn Fein's policy to practice abstention in the House of Commons - they have 4 seats. The Speaker of the House doesn't vote, That's 5 seats less already. So in practice, a majority would need to be 322. The Conservatives already have 325, and are forecast to take 331 by the BBC - they've won already.

    So much is in the air at the moment but one thing to certainly get on board with is a Conservative government will rule for the next 5 years.

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by Thombus
    Originally posted by Wayne
    The Queen will be receiving The Primeminister in about 40 minutes apparently.
    I just giggled when I read that.

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  • Thombus
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    The Queen will be receiving The Primeminister in about 40 minutes apparently.
    I just giggled when I read that.

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  • Wayne
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    The Royal Standard has been raised, meaning the real boss is in residence.

    The Queen will be receiving The Primeminister in about 40 minutes apparently.

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  • MrRager
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    No Monster Raving Loony Party? Pffft

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  • AceReject
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    Clegg's resigned now. Next up, Milliband...

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  • Wayne
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    No surprises; he always said he would if he didn't win his candidacy. And exit polls last night showed that he was unlikely he would.

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