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  • It's a negociation, both sides will lose something and and win something. You can't expect the EU to lay on the red carpet for the UK to leave, when it's not a situation that benefits the union.
    The UK had 3 years to negotiate a deal. To me it seems that the politicians don't want to leave and certainly don't want to be attached to any deal because it might damage their political aspirations in the future, in case things go wrong.
    "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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    • Originally posted by AlphaMale View Post
      It's a negociation, both sides will lose something and and win something. You can't expect the EU to lay on the red carpet for the UK to leave, when it's not a situation that benefits the union.
      The UK had 3 years to negotiate a deal. To me it seems that the politicians don't want to leave and certainly don't want to be attached to any deal because it might damage their political aspirations in the future, in case things go wrong.
      This is basically how UK comes off. May is pushing for her deal and nobody wants close to it, yet there aren't any other options UK is giving. They just want an exit with a deal, but not May deal. What kind of a deal they actually want, they're clueless about. I'm pretty sure if they got everything they asked they'd still reject the deal, just because they don't seem willing to man up, bite and go for it.
      I have received many gifts from God,
      but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
      .

      Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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      • "Theresa May left the British residence in Brussels to return to the UK this morning after being accused by EU leaders of not having an adequate plan in place if MPs reject her Brexit deal for a third time.

        EU leaders turned down Mrs May’s plea to postpone Brexit from March 29 to June 30 after she failed to explain what would happen if her Withdrawal Agreement is rejected again next week.

        One European Prime Minister reportedly told aides that Mrs May appeared "evasive, had no plan and even seemed confused," according to the Times.

        The Guardian also reported one EU source saying: “Asked three times what she would do if she lost the vote, she couldn’t say."

        As I said, the politicians don't really want to leave, but no one has the courage to say it!
        "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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        • Originally posted by AlphaMale View Post
          As I said, the politicians don't really want to leave, but no one has the courage to say it!
          And the most hilarious thing is that referendum result wasn't legally binding as is the case in majority of other countries. So politicians themselves have put themselves in this position.
          I have received many gifts from God,
          but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
          .

          Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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          • Originally posted by Kpop View Post
            https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

            "The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. We need to put a stop to this claim by proving the strength of public support now, for remaining in the EU. A People's Vote may not happen - so vote now".





            Best option: Revoke Article 50
            Loving the reaction to this.
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            • Ultimately the petition means nothing though. It isnít reflective of the electorate, in that itís open to all ages. Plus I very much doubt a debate on revoking Article 50 wouldnít have been proposed by at least one MP anyway.

              I think itís a last effort from those desperately hoping we wonít leave that wonít amount to much.
              Exsqueeze me!

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              • Originally posted by beredy View Post
                LOL. OK. That might be the sentiment in the UK, but I just read a nice article here that ponders how a land of brilliant writers, scientist, etc. manages to be so stupid in 21st century. And I'm pretty sure the same sentiment is prevalent in the rest of the EU countries who are tired of Brexit and just want it to be over. 3 years is enough to come to an agreement, EU did have some leeway and made certain compromises, yet UK doesn't want to compromise anything. So who isn't negotiating there?

                Why would EU accept whatever UK wants? What is the reason for that? Should 20+ countries bend over backwards to UK just because they're UK? They might as well build a wall around the island ŗ la Trumps USA/Mexico.
                And that is exactly why the EU is failing. Instead of solidarity there is bitterness and resentment which is perfectly expressed in your post.
                Last edited by jio; Fri March 22, 2019, 16:06.
                jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                • Originally posted by AlphaMale View Post
                  "Theresa May left the British residence in Brussels to return to the UK this morning after being accused by EU leaders of not having an adequate plan in place if MPs reject her Brexit deal for a third time.

                  EU leaders turned down Mrs May’s plea to postpone Brexit from March 29 to June 30 after she failed to explain what would happen if her Withdrawal Agreement is rejected again next week.

                  One European Prime Minister reportedly told aides that Mrs May appeared "evasive, had no plan and even seemed confused," according to the Times.

                  The Guardian also reported one EU source saying: “Asked three times what she would do if she lost the vote, she couldn’t say."

                  As I said, the politicians don't really want to leave, but no one has the courage to say it!
                  Blaming the nation-state for everything is part of the EU mantra the past 10 years. It's always the mistake of the UK, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, you name it the EU is never at fault, despite all
                  jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                  • Originally posted by beredy View Post
                    And the most hilarious thing is that referendum result wasn't legally binding as is the case in majority of other countries. So politicians themselves have put themselves in this position.
                    Have you never heard the words "democratic deficit" about the EU?
                    jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                    • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
                      Ultimately the petition means nothing though. It isn’t reflective of the electorate, in that it’s open to all ages. Plus I very much doubt a debate on revoking Article 50 wouldn’t have been proposed by at least one MP anyway.

                      I think it’s a last effort from those desperately hoping we won’t leave that won’t amount to much.
                      Exactly. Even I participated in that petition despite being neither from or in the UK... lol
                      jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                      • Originally posted by AlphaMale View Post
                        "Theresa May left the British residence in Brussels to return to the UK this morning after being accused by EU leaders of not having an adequate plan in place if MPs reject her Brexit deal for a third time.

                        EU leaders turned down Mrs May’s plea to postpone Brexit from March 29 to June 30 after she failed to explain what would happen if her Withdrawal Agreement is rejected again next week.

                        One European Prime Minister reportedly told aides that Mrs May appeared "evasive, had no plan and even seemed confused," according to the Times.

                        The Guardian also reported one EU source saying: “Asked three times what she would do if she lost the vote, she couldn’t say."

                        As I said, the politicians don't really want to leave, but no one has the courage to say it!
                        Notice how it doesn't cross the mind of our democratically-elected leaders the need to respect the will of the democratically-elected parliament in the UK? Democracy? who cares? and that's exactly why the EU is in the state it is in right now.
                        jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                        • We just need to leave with no deal. Sheís threatened it enough.
                          Exsqueeze me!

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                          • [MENTION=23671]jio[/MENTION] you're approaching Westen level here.
                            I have received many gifts from God,
                            but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                            .

                            Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                            • Waffles are checked cookies

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                              • Originally posted by beredy View Post
                                [MENTION=23671]jio[/MENTION] you're approaching Westen level here.
                                I don't know what that means but I tried to answer to all of you who answered to me back... it was difficult enough give me some credit lol
                                jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                                • Jio sis you are wayyyyy too biased and anti-EU LOL
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                                  • Originally posted by aRat View Post
                                    Jio sis you are wayyyyy too biased and anti-EU LOL
                                    Actually I am pro-EU.
                                    jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                                    • Originally posted by jio View Post
                                      Actually I am pro-EU.
                                      Are you sure?

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                                      • Originally posted by Kpop View Post
                                        Are you sure?
                                        Totally. I am the one who opposes actions that ultimately destroy the EU. You guys are supporting all the powers that strenthen anti-EU forces and thus destroy the EU in the long run. Supporting all the wrong actions of the EU does not automatically make you pro-EU
                                        jio CHARTS NOW: 13/9/2022: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...1#post10979401

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                                        • Originally posted by Kpop View Post
                                          Are you sure?
                                          He is, not just what this EU has become... I get that.
                                          "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                          • Today’s protest in London.

                                            Exsqueeze me!

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                                            • She really has become the new Maggie hasnít she?



                                              Truth
                                              Exsqueeze me!

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                                              • Well I ended up there didnít I
                                                Exsqueeze me!

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                                                • How was it? Shame these things have no impact.

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                                                  • Originally posted by Thriller View Post
                                                    How was it? Shame these things have no impact.
                                                    Well I ended up there after I saw a matinee this afternoon, so I probably saw it when it was officially all over and done with, but Trafalgar Square was super busy, as was the road down to Parliament. Which is the walk I did and then hopped on the tube at Westminster.

                                                    So I didn’t do the official march thing at 12pm, but easily a couple hundred thousand people hanging around when I got there, chanting and drinking. It had a carnival feel - a few performers and speakers etc. Lots of clever signs too - got to love a good British pun (I quite liked ‘Brexterminate’). The giant head of May (above) was parked right outside the gate of Downing Street - I assume she hasn’t popped out for a pint of milk today

                                                    The amount of signs left on the streets though. Hundreds - if not thousands - just abandoned. Ironic, considering the protest was against the mess in parliament. Lots of hate for May, Rees-Mogg, Boris and Cameron, and frankly they all deserve it.
                                                    Exsqueeze me!

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