U.K. Politics: Nadhim Zahawi sacked by Rishi Sunak

[heppolo]

How he ever made a career out of politics, I’ll never know.

The wealthy donors love BoJo, he's so loyal.
I mean, decent people like Nick Clegg could not catch a break when BoJo can do nothing wrong. I guess if you are a good enough scaremonger, they let you off the hook.

[Wayne]

[tweet:1jxpghh6]https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1016631522080718848[/tweet:1jxpghh6]

How he ever made a career out of politics, I’ll never know.

[heppolo]

Jeremy Hunt appointed Foreign Secretary.

I bet the doctors are happy.

Can he do worse than Boris as a foreign secretary?

Oh yes. Ask any doctor or nurse.

The best way for him is to really do nothing and just let it slide.

[Artoo]

Jeremy Hunt appointed Foreign Secretary.

I bet the doctors are happy.

Can he do worse than Boris as a foreign secretary?

Oh yes. Ask any doctor or nurse.

[heppolo]

Jeremy Hunt appointed Foreign Secretary.

I bet the doctors are happy.

Can he do worse than Boris as a foreign secretary?

[Wayne]

Jeremy Hunt appointed Foreign Secretary.

I bet the doctors are happy.

[SholasBoy]

Boris is such a spoilt brat, campaigned for Brexit but wasn’t at all interested in doing the work. He resigns after returning from his public paid holiday to Afghanistan

[Artoo]

“The typical user of a foodbank is not someone that’s languishing in poverty, it’s someone who has a cash flow problem episodically.”

Says Dominic Raan, our new Brexit Secretary.

[Wayne]

Re: UK Politics - Boris Johnson and David Davis resign

The man has disgraced every office he's held, goodbye - no loss.

[Artoo]

[tweet:t9y2xwk1]https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1016373750395277313[/tweet:t9y2xwk1]


Boris gives no ****s

[heppolo]

But I hope it fails and she sticks it out. If she doesn’t, I dread to think what we’ll end up with.

Jacob Rees-Mogg as a PM and Tories going full UKIP mode in every single policy decision.

[Wayne]

Re: UK Politics - Boris Johnson and David Davis resign

I also think she’s played it well, she’s clearly played the long game with this.

Both Johnson and Davis departing in such a short space of time is clearly designed to drive a no confidence vote and result in a leadership contest.

But I hope it fails and she sticks it out. If she doesn’t, I dread to think what we’ll end up with.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics - Boris Johnson and David Davis resign

Even the dying get a burst of energy and coherence right before the end

[Kaloki]

I actually think May has played this brilliantly - she's actually had a stroke of political genius.... Just think about it


Imagine she had proposed this plan 2 years ago - she would've been replaced instantly. Brexiteers would've never accepted paying large sums of money and alignment on regulations for goods.

Instead, she's managed to keep everybody together, and now came up with a fairly soft brexit, but achieved it so late in the day that brexiteers have nowhere to turn. They can go on all the they about No Deal, but parliament will never allow it.

She's lulled the brexiteers in cabinet into thinking they were getting their own way, then called their bluff with just a few months to go. Boris has made such a fool of himself the last few months months that he won't win a leadership challenge.

She's kept herself in power and avoided a hard brexit (she was a remainer so obviously never wanted one).

I might be giving her too much credit and this is all actually be luck, and she could be gone in a few days, but reading a lot of details about the last few days it seems everybody has been surprised by how aggressive No 10 suddenly became - eg banning phones at Friday's meeting, daring people to resign and go home in taxis, and even today apparently they announced Boris was resigning before he'd even finished writing the letter.


It's all still a complete mess, but May has got a proposal which would've seemed unthinkable 2 years ago

[Rihab]

The situation reminds me of..

https://youtu.be/mAt4WDYYNqw?t=52s

So good.

[Artoo]

^ I don’t agree.

Never has a sitting prime minister had to deal with an issue like Brexit, there is no comparison here - I don’t think she’s been perfect, but facing down a contentious party full of brats and a country that has never been so divided as well as a world that is watching her every move, I think she’s doing her best.

I don’t deny that she she’s tried to do her best, but her best has not been good enough. It’s as simple as this - Brexit should be sorted. We shouldn’t be discussing and negotiating this late in the game. Our position should have been clear a year ago and if the EU didn’t like it then no deal.

I am no Brexit supporter but it’s happening and I’ve accepted that - but when we voted it was in or out. That was what we voted for and we should be removing ourselves from the EU entirely, not pandering to them a little over six months before we leave. Negotiate after from a blank canvas.

The fact she called and lost an unnecessary election without outlining her firm Brexit plan was foolish. Clearly a lot has gone on behind the scenes as I’m surprised she’s held onto power this long. The whip must be run ragged. She has not been an effective PM and that’s all it comes down to - you either sink or you swim... you should not continuously paddling to stay afloat.

Yes Brexit is one of the toughest modern challenges, but that is the job she signed up for - she put herself forward for the job after the vote. If she can’t unite the cabinet, the party, Parliament or the country over the deal then why should she remain PM?

[Wayne]

Re: UK Politics - Boris Johnson and David Davis resign

^ I don’t agree.

Never has a sitting prime minister had to deal with an issue like Brexit, there is no comparison here - I don’t think she’s been perfect, but facing down a contentious party full of brats and a country that has never been so divided as well as a world that is watching her every move, I think she’s doing her best.

[Artoo]

The cabinet unravelling like this is just concerning. May's government making Trump look stable and enviable.

Their vision of Brexit conflicts with hers and make no mistake, she is the boss.

Perhaps for the moment, but he is now free to challenge her. I don‘t think he resigned to just sit back and watch May dismantle Brexit step by step.

Exactly. May has been fighting Tory rebels for months, if not years at this stage. 48 Tory MPs must log a vote of no confidence and then the Conservatives can vote for new leadership. The last time was in 2003 and the vote was held the next day. At this rate we could have a new PM by the end of the week



She has never been fit to lead the party, never mind the country.

[Rihab]

The cabinet unravelling like this is just concerning. May's government making Trump look stable and enviable.

Their vision of Brexit conflicts with hers and make no mistake, she is the boss.

Perhaps for the moment, but he is now free to challenge her. I don‘t think he resigned to just sit back and watch May dismantle Brexit step by step.

[Wayne]

The cabinet unravelling like this is just concerning. May's government making Trump look stable and enviable.

Their vision of Brexit conflicts with hers and make no mistake, she is the boss.

This is positive news - though I initially welcomed the appointment of Davis, I think he became less effective as the months went by.

[Hugo]

Ewww, cancel this whole thing, the UK is better when it's under Germany's leadership anyway.

[bm08]

The cabinet unravelling like this is just concerning. May's government making Trump look stable and enviable.

[Rihab]

So will May be at this rate

May should call the next snap election and then step down imo. Settle this matter once and for all. Let Boris Johnson lead the Tories and campaign for a hard Brexit, while Labour campaigns for an Exit from Brexit. As long as you have hard brexiteers, soft brexiteers and remainers in one and the same party and government, the negotiations with the EU will never come to a close, let alone before the end of the year. May wasted the last two years negotiating with her own ministers rather than with the EU.

[Wayne]

Glad Boris has gone.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics - tax increase to hep fund NHS money

So will May be at this rate