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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by biscuits
    How has her campaign been that bad? To me, it was on par with all lousy campaigns, but nothing stood out to me to call it abysmal
    It was the aesthetics of the campaign...
    • Her numerous u-turns or failure to follow through on policies like her social care plan (the "dementia tax"), fox hunting etc.[/*:m:1zcsi28c]
    • Focusing her campaign on "Brexit" instead of developing domestic policies like Corbyn promised via his manifesto.[/*:m:1zcsi28c]
    • An underwhelming manifesto.[/*:m:1zcsi28c]
    • Refusing to give interviews that no sitting PM has done in 40 years or participate in debates. [/*:m:1zcsi28c]
    • Failure to secure the future of the NHS. [/*:m:1zcsi28c]
    • "Strong and stable" [/*:m:1zcsi28c]


    And so on. For the record, I'm not saying that Corbyn ran a good campaign.

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  • hun
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    How has her campaign been that bad? To me, it was on par with all lousy campaigns, but nothing stood out to me to call it abysmal

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by menime123
    Considering she only called this election because she was miles ahead in the polls and it was supposedly a sure thing, tonight is already a disaster.

    Even if they form a government without a majority (which is possible) her position as leader is surely up for debate.
    She's run such a terrible campaign, the worst I can recall in the 10+ years I've followed politics. To see Fallon towing the party line on the BBC at the moment is just cringe.

    I cannot get over how poorly she has done in the campaign - if she does get the majority here and retain the confidence of her party, she seriously needs to up her game.

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    Originally posted by menime123
    Either way she hasn't won by a landslide - she might just get across the finish line but she has worsened her parties position in parliament either way. She won't retain the same number of seats.
    Given that some opinion polls prior to the election closing predicted just a 1% difference between her and Corbyn, I think her losing 1 or 2 seats is perfectly expected. If that does happen (the Conservatives finishing on 329 seats - a loss of 2 seats) and the SNP perform as expected (retaining most of their seats), then Labour haven't really progressed either - so is it a disaster for May or is it a disaster for Corbyn?

    One of them is going tonight.
    Considering she only called this election because she was miles ahead in the polls and it was supposedly a sure thing, tonight is already a disaster.

    Even if they form a government without a majority (which is possible) her position as leader is surely up for debate.

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by menime123
    Either way she hasn't won by a landslide - she might just get across the finish line but she has worsened her parties position in parliament either way. She won't retain the same number of seats.
    Given that some opinion polls prior to the election closing predicted just a 1% difference between her and Corbyn, I think her losing 1 or 2 seats is perfectly expected. If that does happen (the Conservatives finishing on 329 seats - a loss of 2 seats) and the SNP perform as expected (retaining most of their seats), then Labour haven't really progressed either - so is it a disaster for May or is it a disaster for Corbyn?

    One of them is going tonight.

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    If the exit polls are right, it would take the combined force of Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the SNP to match up with the Conservatives (314-314). Which could mean that the Greens or DUP are "king-makers".

    According to the BBC, it is rumored that the Home Secretary Amber Rudd's constituency is seriously tight - it'd be horrific if the Home Secretary lost her seat.
    She deserves to lose it.

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  • Wayne
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    If the exit polls are right, it would take the combined force of Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the SNP to match up with the Conservatives (314-314). Which could mean that the Greens or DUP are "king-makers".

    According to the BBC, it is rumored that the Home Secretary Amber Rudd's constituency is seriously tight - it'd be horrific if the Home Secretary lost her seat.

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  • stevyy
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    poor her.

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    Originally posted by menime123
    I bet Teresa wishes she hadn't bothered
    The exit poll cannot possibly (and fairly) estimate what the SNP numbers will be as they are disproportionate - the exit poll predicts that the SNP will lose 22 seats (which is obviously not going to happen). I think the SNP will eat a chunk of those Labour gains once the final results come out.

    I'd also remind folks that the exit poll in 2015 predicted that the Conservatives would finish on 316 seats - it finished on 331. That same discrepancy this year in favour of the Conservatives would see them retain their majority.

    Either way she hasn't won by a landslide - she might just get across the finish line but she has worsened her parties position in parliament either way. She won't retain the same number of seats.

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  • Robbie
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    Yes! May has truly screwed up if the figures are correct. She has to go!

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  • Wayne
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    Originally posted by menime123
    I bet Teresa wishes she hadn't bothered
    The exit poll cannot possibly (and fairly) estimate what the SNP numbers will be as they are disproportionate - the exit poll predicts that the SNP will lose 22 seats (which is obviously not going to happen). I think the SNP will eat a chunk of those Labour gains once the final results come out.

    I'd also remind folks that the exit poll in 2015 predicted that the Conservatives would finish on 316 seats - it finished on 331. That same discrepancy this year in favour of the Conservatives would see them retain their majority.

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  • Artoo
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    If the Tories don't end up with a majority then Brexit will be fun. Her party won't have as many seats/votes on compared to what she had before this.

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  • Eamon
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    Yasssss!!

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  • Biebz
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    COME THRUUU!! Keeping my fingers crossed

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  • Artoo
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    I bet Teresa wishes she hadn't bothered

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  • Wayne
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    The exit polls show the Conservatives as the largest party with NO overall majority on 314 seats [down 17] with Labour on 266 [up 34].

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  • Artoo
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    Exit polls no overall majority. But Conservatives only 12 seats behind.

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  • Wayne
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    Voting closes in 5 minutes - we are also 5 minutes away from the exit polls!

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  • Robbie
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    If I was a betting man I'd bet on a 56 seat majority for the Tories - unfortunately

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by Wayne
    Final YouGov opinion poll predicts hung parliament (The Times, 5 pm today).

    Oh I love a bit of drama

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  • Wayne
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    Final YouGov opinion poll predicts hung parliament (The Times, 5 pm today).

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  • hun
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    The media has been appalling.

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  • Artoo
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    Daily Mail reporting a landslide victory is due - I thought the media couldn't speculate until polls close?

    If it's true it's not unexpected. It would just be nice to once in my voting life see a Labour win

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  • Robbie
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    I voted Labour but unfortunately the Tories are going to win. Which means 5 years of misery and austerity. Ah, well, not to worry

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  • SholasBoy
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    I voted labour in the end, somehow felt morally better even though their stance on immigration and security worries me. I don't think I'm going to be majorly bothered by the result either way, I can already see Facebook keyboard warriors up in arms when Conservative get in again, but I don't really mind that outcome either.

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