U.K. Politics: Nadine Dorries resigns her post as MP - or does she?

[Artoo]

So MPs are to vote on Thursday as to whether an investigation should be launched into whether Boris lied to Parliament or not. Sadly The Tories have a 75 majority, meaning it’s unlikely an investigation will actually be approved.

I swear this thread needs moving to the Entertainment section

[bm08]

I mean, we knew the results of this before this whole thing even started.

[Artoo]

Of course we did. Which is why it’s farcical. The man who created the rules broke the rules and claims he didn’t know he was breaking them. How can such a person be expected to run a country?

If people could have broken the rules and attended funerals for a £50 fine, they would have. Instead Boris has a party whilst telling us we could not do that. It is not good enough. Law breakers should not be law makers because there is no respect for the law.

Parliament is absolute carnage right now. I mean someone has just shouted ‘Coward!’ to Boris and one of his own MPs said he isn’t fit for office

[Artoo]

The brown nosing of the Tory backbenchers is an embarrassment of riches.

[jordi_89]

Of course we did. Which is why it’s farcical. The man who created the rules broke the rules and claims he didn’t know he was breaking them. How can such a person be expected to run a country?

If people could have broken the rules and attended funerals for a £50 fine, they would have. Instead Boris has a party whilst telling us we could not do that. It is not good enough. Law breakers should not be law makers because there is no respect for the law.

So true. This seems to be a shared problem with a lot of countries in the world.

[theMathematician]

Wasn't the UK under Johnson not one of the countries where measurements got relieved the earliest? The UK also never seemed to have been hardcore about it, unlike certain other European countries (not even speaking about Asia), and I always had the impression that Johnson wasn't too sorry about that, so why is he judged so harshly for those Corona parties? It would've been much more of a scandal if the Chinese prime minister took part in them...

[Artoo]

MPs vote to open investigation into Boris Johnson

MPs have voted, without any opposition from the government benches, to open the investigation into the PM, as Labour outlined in their motion.

There were no cries of "no" from the government benches, so there is no formal 15-minute division on the matter.

Good. I watched the first hour or so of the debate and I have to say, Sir Kier is stepping up his game. He gave a great speech.

[Thriller]

Local elections this year will be interesting. I hope we see some movement towards others parties and the Tories have a less successful year than last year. If not, after the farce of the last 12 months, I despair.

[SholasBoy]

The current government has been an absolute shambles, with one cock up after another. But I still don't really see a viable alternative that people will rush to vote for, unless local MP's can win over the trust of their constituencies. Perhaps there is hope that all those seats that switched from red to blue in what was pretty much a vote for brexit will now realise what the true cost of brexit was when they struggle to buy food, pay their energy bills and put fuel in their cars

[Artoo]

The current government has been an absolute shambles, with one cock up after another. But I still don't really see a viable alternative that people will rush to vote for, unless local MP's can win over the trust of their constituencies. Perhaps there is hope that all those seats that switched from red to blue in what was pretty much a vote for brexit will now realise what the true cost of brexit was when they struggle to buy food, pay their energy bills and put fuel in their cars

Whilst Brexit has impacted costs, the energy crisis (as its now known) has been building for almost a year and plays a much bigger role (and is not because of Brexit).

It’s only at the forefront now because the household cap price was raised earlier this month, but wholesale costs have been higher than suppliers were allowed to charge for close to twelve months.

I agree there’s no viable alternative but if people aren’t happy with the current setup, hopefully they’ll give the alternative a try. Admittedly that’s no way to win an election, but party loyalty is fickle when it impacts your wallet.

The best case scenario now is getting Boris replaced. He got to guide us through Brexit and Covid - that’s more than enough for any PM to deal with. We need a PM with a moral compass - which should not be huge ask. I didn’t particularly like them, but at least Cameron and May had integrity and appeared to genuinely want to serve the country.

But Boris is coming across as quite machiavellian now as he’s used the bumbling fool persona once too many times. I don’t see anything but personal ambition and a willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve it.

[Plym]

The current government has been an absolute shambles, with one cock up after another. But I still don't really see a viable alternative that people will rush to vote for, unless local MP's can win over the trust of their constituencies. Perhaps there is hope that all those seats that switched from red to blue in what was pretty much a vote for brexit will now realise what the true cost of brexit was when they struggle to buy food, pay their energy bills and put fuel in their cars

vote sturgeon, she probably has your best interests at heart more than the pm

[Wayne]

The best case scenario now is getting Boris replaced. He got to guide us through Brexit and Covid - that’s more than enough for any PM to deal with. We need a PM with a moral compass - which should not be huge ask. I didn’t particularly like them, but at least Cameron and May had integrity and appeared to genuinely want to serve the country.

But Boris is coming across as quite machiavellian now as he’s used the bumbling fool persona once too many times. I don’t see anything but personal ambition and a willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve it.

Much as Biden isn't the most radical President and he isn't doing as much as some Democrats would like, he is a good man who is doing his best to steady the ship - he has achieved some wonderful things as President but the most important thing is that after the years of Trump, he restores a sense of credibility and morals to the Presidency. We need the same in the UK, not Biden - but we need a person to steady our ship and turn the tide on the corruption and reverse the damage that has been done by Boris and his team.

The UK needs to really hurt the Conservatives in the next election but I don't think we will - the opposition just isn't strong enough.

[Artoo]

Bring back Tony. We’ve been messed around ever since Labour forced him to step down.

[SholasBoy]

Whilst Brexit has impacted costs, the energy crisis (as its now known) has been building for almost a year and plays a much bigger role (and is not because of Brexit).

Whilst I do somewhat agree, people were told they would get lower energy bills if they voted for Brexit. Now there is an energy crisis, our energy bills have gone up by an average of 50% while in France it's 5%.

[Artoo]

Whilst I do somewhat agree, people were told they would get lower energy bills if they voted for Brexit. Now there is an energy crisis, our energy bills have gone up by an average of 50% while in France it's 5%.

People voted for Brexit in 2016. The energy industry crisis has nothing to do with that. Lower energy prices was another lie that should never have been believed - whilst it’s true Brexit allows the UK to alter it’s commitment to reducing emissions, we haven’t and we won’t.

The real problem is the UK is too reliant on importing energy. The initial rise in wholesale costs is because there was a fire destroying our main inter-connector, preventing us from importing electricity from Europe.

In order to keep the lights on, we had to use our gas reserves (which are tiny - we have a tiny capacity for storing gas) and we even started using coal again to make power.

China started buying up gas which drove wholesale prices up and because we cannot store gas, we cannot bulk buy when prices are low. Then Russia started playing silly buggers and were accused of market manipulation to keep prices high (pre-war). Then, if you could believe it, there was a wind shortage across Europe in 2021 resulting in lower levels of generation than anticipated, inflating prices higher.

The UK energy system is seriously messed up and the worst part of it is we’re stuck with a lot of it. We don’t self generate anywhere near as much as we should which leaves us far too exposed to external factors that drive the wholesale price.

[Wayne]

Bring back Tony. We’ve been messed around ever since Labour forced him to step down.

I know you're probably joking but that would be a disaster. I'd be hear for someone with his charisma and forward thinking agenda though.

[Artoo]

I know you're probably joking but that would be a disaster. I'd be hear for someone with his charisma and forward thinking agenda though.

I am joking, but honestly, he was probably the last competent PM we had. Gordon was as much use as a knitted condom, David gave us Brexit and Teresa achieved bugger all.

I think Angela Rayner is the one to watch, especially if people are sick of career politicians who haven’t a clue what an actual cost of living crisis really is.

[Thombus]

I am joking, but honestly, he was probably the last competent PM we had. Gordon was as much use as a knitted condom, David gave us Brexit and Teresa achieved bugger all.

I think Angela Rayner is the one to watch, especially if people are sick of career politicians who haven’t a clue what an actual cost of living crisis really is.

Angela would never get past middle England but I agree completely.

And despite the illegal war, I rated Tony Blair. The country achieved much more under his leadership than anyone else thereafter in my opinion.

[AceReject]

I misread the thread title as “Prime Minister and Chancellor both fired…”

For a split second I thought things were finally looking up and maybe Lizzy was having her Lord Sugar moment.

[Artoo]

Angela would never get past middle England but I agree completely.

And despite the illegal war, I rated Tony Blair. The country achieved much more under his leadership than anyone else thereafter in my opinion.

Blair wasn’t perfect but society progressed a lot under his watch. I mean it’s madness to think we didn’t even have a legal minimum wage until 1999.

Angela will never convince Tory England but I do think she has her eye on the leadership position, and rightly so. She knows a bit about real life and what it’s like not to be born with a silver spoon. Frankly that’s the kind of politicians I want in parliament, not the wealthy Eton set.

[Wayne]

Nadine Dorries is the gift that keeps on giving - downstreaming, tennis pitches…the woman is clueless.

[SholasBoy]

Her interview on This Morning was quite similar she kept banging on about the safe internet but didn't sound like she had any idea what the internet even was!

[Plym]

Her interview on This Morning was quite similar she kept banging on about the safe internet but didn't sound like she had any idea what the internet even was!

bet she adds the http when she types in site addresses

[Artoo]

Dorries is a real danger to culture - especially when it comes to the BBC. She’s also in love with Boris and I cannot trust a woman with such poor standards.

[Thriller]

She’s 64 years old… DMCS deserves a 24 year old in charge.