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  • Commons is set to agree. Conservative + Labour + Lib Dem all in favour is easily 2/3rds of the MPs - and given SNP are only abstaining it's like those seats don't count rather than them counting against.

    It is a power grab, but not one in terms of years in power - it's a grab of a load more seats from a weak and vulnerable Labour Party so she has a more solid majority and doesn't have to worry about making any concessions to other parties whatsoever. She'll never get a majority in the Lords though, so that could prove interesting for Brexit - even if the Commons doesn't ever vote anything down on it.
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    • Originally posted by heppolo
      Originally posted by menime123
      As much as I am a Labour supporter, the Labour Party screwed themselves over when they opted for Ed Miliband over David Miliband. The party has never recovered from this act of stupidity and it hasn't had anyone worthy of the job since.
      Tony Blair should have never retired, would have won multiple elections and stayed in power still to this day like Merkel
      He might have struggled to win a 5th to be honest, but I do think he left politics too early.
      I have a bad feeling about this.

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      • Now that little Hitler woman is threatening a coalition with Labour. I don't trust Corbyn enough not to take it :evil:
        I have a bad feeling about this.

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        • Originally posted by heppolo
          Originally posted by menime123
          As much as I am a Labour supporter, the Labour Party screwed themselves over when they opted for Ed Miliband over David Miliband. The party has never recovered from this act of stupidity and it hasn't had anyone worthy of the job since.
          Tony Blair should have never retired, would have won multiple elections and stayed in power still to this day like Merkel
          Are you for real? He's one of the most hated people on the planet.

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          • Originally posted by Airwrecka
            Originally posted by heppolo
            Originally posted by menime123
            As much as I am a Labour supporter, the Labour Party screwed themselves over when they opted for Ed Miliband over David Miliband. The party has never recovered from this act of stupidity and it hasn't had anyone worthy of the job since.
            Tony Blair should have never retired, would have won multiple elections and stayed in power still to this day like Merkel
            Are you for real? He's one of the most hated people on the planet.
            You know, Donald Trump once again proved that in politics it is better to be hated than to be dull but right on the issues.
            Waffles are checked cookies

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            • Originally posted by heppolo
              Originally posted by Airwrecka
              Originally posted by heppolo
              Originally posted by menime123
              As much as I am a Labour supporter, the Labour Party screwed themselves over when they opted for Ed Miliband over David Miliband. The party has never recovered from this act of stupidity and it hasn't had anyone worthy of the job since.
              Tony Blair should have never retired, would have won multiple elections and stayed in power still to this day like Merkel
              Are you for real? He's one of the most hated people on the planet.
              You know, Donald Trump once again proved that in politics it is better to be hated than to be dull but right on the issues.
              Better in what sense? To get elected? Maybe.. if your base are complete idiots like Trumps base. But if you mean to run the country? Hardly, it's obvious by how Trump is running the US into the ground

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              • ^I mean, for Labour it would have been better to have a hated but charismatic leader than the dullest ever backbencher who may have been right on lots of issues but just couldn't get his act together. And even if Blair is Tory-light he is still better than going full Tory.
                Waffles are checked cookies

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                • Please can David Miliband make a return to British politics? He'd sort it all out.
                  I have a bad feeling about this.

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                  • I hear Labour is rising in the polls. Guess May's campaign strategy of not having a campaign and refusing to face the competition (brought to you by #Merkel2013 and #Hillary2016) isn't working.
                    Even Merkel agreed to have two debates this year although she hates answering questions / talk to voters.

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                    • strange that May calls for June, it has that weird wordplay
                      Waffles are checked cookies

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                      • Originally posted by heppolo
                        strange that May calls for June, it has that weird wordplay

                        Not sure she wants people to associate the election as being 'after May'
                        I have a bad feeling about this.

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                        • Originally posted by menime123
                          Originally posted by heppolo
                          strange that May calls for June, it has that weird wordplay

                          Not sure she wants people to associate the election as being 'after May'

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                          • The debates are what got Gordon Brown into trouble - Cameron exuded confidence whilst Brown appeared to flounder. May isn't going to walk into that trap - especially if that little hitler woman demands involvement.
                            I have a bad feeling about this.

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                            • Originally posted by thankfulforkelly
                              Stop referring to Nicola Sturgeon as "the little hitler woman" :-?
                              No.

                              I cannot stand the woman's ego, her politics, her views nor her approach.

                              She is a nationalist that believes being Scottish is better than being British, and will stop at nothing to achieve an independent Scotland.

                              I am a royalist and firmly believe that should an independent Scotland exist, that it would only be the first step towards Scotland becoming a republic (they object to Elizabeth II on the grounds Scotland never had an Elizabeth I).

                              I do not support nationalistic politics of any individual member of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The fact the SNP gained such traction saddens me deeply, but am thrilled to discover it is waining.

                              Any threat to a United Kingdom is the devil as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, we soldier on and will over come this internal threat to democracy.

                              I would however suggest you do the google and learn the history of the SNP and discover their links to Nazi Germany though.
                              I have a bad feeling about this.

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                              • That's cool, you're entitled to your opinion.

                                But anyone who threatens the British identity, believes their singular nationality is greater than a collective entity and refuses to accept democracy in favour of their personal political opinions - in my opinion, shares similarities with Hitler.
                                I have a bad feeling about this.

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                                • Back on topic, but this election seems to be a non-event thus far. I've said before but I'll say it again - US politics is far more interesting. Yes, it's a vicious media circus over there, but at least it gets people interested and involved!
                                  I have a bad feeling about this.

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                                  • Originally posted by menime123
                                    Back on topic, but this election seems to be a non-event thus far. I've said before but I'll say it again - US politics is far more interesting. Yes, it's a vicious media circus over there, but at least it gets people interested and involved!
                                    US politics has a better run up - their politicians are so much more invested in campaigning.

                                    However, nothing beats the "on the night" feeling of UK politics - for the last few general elections, I've stayed up to watch it each time and it is enthralling.

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                                    • Originally posted by Wayne
                                      Originally posted by menime123
                                      Back on topic, but this election seems to be a non-event thus far. I've said before but I'll say it again - US politics is far more interesting. Yes, it's a vicious media circus over there, but at least it gets people interested and involved!
                                      US politics has a better run up - their politicians are so much more invested in campaigning.

                                      However, nothing beats the "on the night" feeling of UK politics - for the last few general elections, I've stayed up to watch it each time and it is enthralling.
                                      Considering this is a snap election - the first in decades - I'm shocked at how low key it all is. I love election night, and normally spend the night on the sofa dipping in and out of news (as I wake loads each night). Glad David Dimbleby is coming back for one last time, after declaring last year's was his last.

                                      I also love they the first few results are always north east England who always vote Labour. So I normally settle in for some shut eye with Labour in the lead
                                      I have a bad feeling about this.

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                                      • Originally posted by theguardian
                                        Conventional wisdom suggests the Tories could bleed Remain votes to the Lib Dems. Our detailed data analysis suggests this idea could be very wrong indeed

                                        Lib Dems shouldn't count on Remain votes - the data looks bleak
                                        Waffles are checked cookies

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                                        • At 07:00 BST, across the 21 English and Welsh counties that had fully declared results, the Tories had control of 10 authorities and 542 seats, a net gain of 147.

                                          Labour had control of four authorities and 368 seats, a net loss of 119. The Lib Dems had 134 seats, a net loss of 24. UKIP had failed to win any seats, a net loss of 41, while the Greens had picked up five.
                                          Numbers changing all the time but so far, Conservatives are hugely up and UKIP have been completely wiped out having lost every seat they were defending!

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