U.K. Politics: Nadine Dorries resigns her post as MP - or does she?

[heppolo]

Oh, the waffle
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[Hugo]

What a turn of events in recent years in the UK and the US... messy countries.

[heppolo]

At least some fun
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[heppolo]

Some adult humour as well
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[hun]

Petition to stop the minority government between Conservatives and DUP is nearly on 500,000 signatures

https://www.change.org/p/winston-no-...en_1%3Acontrol

[heppolo]

^Theresa and Tories are unapologetic, those petitions are pretty pointless

[Wayne]

The irony is that a petition on the governments official website would be debated in the Conservative-dominated House of Commons, if over 100,000 signatures were achieved. The change.org petitions are pointless.

[Robbie]

Breaking news: both may's chief political advisers have just resigned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40231107

They aren't to blame for this whole fiasco. The buck has to stop with Theresa May.

[Wayne]

She needs to widen the circle of those she chooses to consult - this should also appease those Conzervative MPs that are calling for her head.

[Thriller]

What a messy result

[Wayne]

The rhetoric on BBC news from Conservative MPs and supporters is quite harsh - apparently, the cabinet demanded the resignation of her two closest advisors.

[Robbie]

The rhetoric on BBC news from Conservative MPs and supporters is quite harsh - apparently, the cabinet demanded the resignation of her two closest advisors.

The alternative was apparently if they didn't resign there would be someone ready to stand against May on Monday. The BBC have reported that her resignation speech had already been drawn up by senior Tories.

The DUP have apparently demanded that to work with the Tories all benefit cuts must be dropped so that should make for an interesting discussion. Personally as much as I am against any cuts to benefits I don't agree that 10 MPs (the DUP MPs) should hold the entire country to ransom. It would be better to hold another election although that really would be a shambolic mess, and of May's own making.

Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour shadow cabinet have been drawing up an alternative Queen's speech in case the Tory / DUP "coalition" fails to materialise. The problem there is that even by joining forces with other parties (not including the DUP) they wouldn't be able to form a majority as they would be about one or two seats short so I doubt they could get any legislation through parliament.

[matthew_dixon]

Well who saw that coming, eh? Great to see so many young people turn out and vote, and really make a difference to the result.

Conservatives - Disastrous result for them. Theresa May made a gamble and it spectacularly backfired. Very pleasant surprise.

Labour - Far better than expected - but they still lost. If only the backbenchers hadn't spent two years trying to topple Corbyn - they might have won the election.

Lib Dem - "Patchy" sums it up. They basically took a centre ground that was slightly more squeezed, but slightly further right, thus making some net gains. I'd hoped for significantly better results, but Corbyn just squeezed the vote big time.

SNP - Disastrous night in an election shortly after Nicola Sturgeon had suggested a second independence referendum - goes to show the Scots don't want it.

Plaid Cymru - Actually better than expected - gaining a seat. Still, they got nowhere in Anglesey where they'd hoped to gain.

UKIP - Absolute disaster - they're finished.

Green - Very poor night. Aside from Caroline Lucas having a personal vote the voters realised that Labour were offering the same stuff, and so switched.

Northern Ireland - Aside from Lady Sylvia Hermon - really shock result as all three moderate parties got the boot. Worrying times.

Others - Shame the independent woman in East Devon didn't get in. Shame the NHS party didn't scalp the health secretary.

[heppolo]

Green - Very poor night. Aside from Caroline Lucas having a personal vote the voters realised that Labour were offering the same stuff, and so switched.

Green mostly even campaigned for Labour this time around, especially in key marginal seats

Lib Dem

I'm sorry for Nick Clegg mostly, but I hope he is going to return for a by-election or something [like Vince Cable did]. He is a humble man and took responsibility for his actions

[LOVE+FEAR]

Ugh, so they're cooperating with a party that is against gay marriage

Well, not like it's that different in Germany ... :-?

[heppolo]

A bunch of losers
Tories spent £1,200,000 on negative anti-Jeremy Corbyn social media adverts

[LOVE+FEAR]

Why is the world getting so messy :-?

France though

[Wayne]

Theresa is about to meet with the 1922 committee - she's expected to receive a "frosty" reception according to the BBC.

[hun]

What is 1922 committee?

[Wayne]

What is 1922 committee?

It's basically the entire number of Tory backbench MPs - they meet with each other each week and the PM is not allowed to attend but I think they then meet with the PM once each month to put forth their views. It's basically a link between the PM and her cabinet ministers and the rest of the party - the Chairman of the 1922 committee is considered to be one of the most influential positions in UK politics.

It'll be the toughest meeting she has this year, Brexit aside.

[Theodorerichert]

What is 1922 committee?

It's basically the entire number of Tory backbench MPs - they meet with each other each week and the PM is not allowed to attend but I think they then meet with the PM once each month to put forth their views. It's basically a link between the PM and her cabinet ministers and the rest of the party - the Chairman of the 1922 committee is considered to be one of the most influential positions in UK politics.

It'll be the toughest meeting she has this year, Brexit aside.

Do they have the power to replace her, if they wish?

[Wayne]

^ In theory, I guess so - the name itself stems from an incident in 1922 when a group of MPs [that would become known as the 1922 committee leveled a challenge at the sitting parliament that eventually resulted in the sitting party being voted out and the Conservatives taking over as government.

If the sentiment is strong, then they could stake a challenge for leadership - with the right candidate and enough party support, that could then lead to a leadership battle which could oust May.

However, I highly doubt that will happen - she'll take a beating and it'll be made clear to her that she needs to change her leadership style. However, the party will probably do what they always do - get on with it. Corbyn has little to no chance of the premiership this time around.

[Rihab]

I have a feeling there'll be new elections before the end of the year.

[Wayne]

I read that the cost of a UK general election is up to £170 million - so if they do call another one, they're foolish.

[heppolo]

Two fine twitter parody accounts:
Mhairi Black Googles
Angry Salmond