U.K. Politics: Nadine Dorries resigns her post as MP - or does she?

[heppolo]

I have a feeling we’ll have another election this year. Probably October. We need a public vote on the deal too. I wasn’t in favour of one before, but it is clear the politicians have no idea.

Corbyn's take on Brexit is also a mess

[Wayne]

Re: UK Politics - Brexit = exit in name only?

Ugh, not another election at such a crucial time.

[Artoo]

I have a feeling we’ll have another election this year. Probably October. We need a public vote on the deal too. I wasn’t in favour of one before, but it is clear the politicians have no idea.

Corbyn's take on Brexit is also a mess

I’m labour, but not a Corbyn fan at all. I don’t necessarily abhor the tidies - David Cameron was pretty decent in some ways - but May has been a mess since she arrived. How she won the leadership I’ll never know.

But I’ll say this - we don’t have any decent politicians ready to lead a party, never mind the country. Politics needs a shakeup and this is why there hasn’t been a clear, outright majority since Tony Blair was in power. Blair had his faults, but you don’t win four times by sheer luck.

Personally, I thought David Milliband was a shoo in for labour leader and PM, but his sodding brother stood against him, the Judas

[Artoo]

Trump trying to cause Brexit drama

[heppolo]

Re: UK Politics - Brexit = exit in name only?

Actually I think Nick Clegg would have been a better leader than Cameron, May or Corbyn.

[Artoo]

Actually I think Nick Clegg would have been a better leader than Cameron, May or Corbyn.

That weasel? Never. He sold his own party out.

[heppolo]

Actually I think Nick Clegg would have been a better leader than Cameron, May or Corbyn.

That weasel? Never. He sold his own party out.

Libdems acted like the coalition was solely Nick Cleggs' decision in order to hedge their election losses.
Tories having to deal with a coalition mode was actually quite okay in comparison to the current shambolic situation.

[Artoo]

Actually I think Nick Clegg would have been a better leader than Cameron, May or Corbyn.

That weasel? Never. He sold his own party out.

Libdems acted like the coalition was solely Nick Cleggs' decision in order to hedge their election losses.
Tories having to deal with a coalition mode was actually quite okay in comparison to the current shambolic situation.

The coalition did work well imo, but Clegg was useless.

[Wayne]

...sue the EU!

Theresa May: Trump told me to sue the EU

Donald Trump told Theresa May she should sue the EU rather than negotiate over Brexit, she has told the BBC.

The US president said on Friday at a joint press conference he had given her a suggestion - but she had found it too "brutal".

Asked by the BBC's Andrew Marr what it was he had said, she replied: "He told me I should sue the EU - not go into negotiations."

She defended her blueprint for Brexit and urged her critics to back it.

She said it would allow the UK to strike trade deals with other nations, end free movement of people, and end the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice.

A White Paper published on Thursday fleshed out details of her plan, which advocates close links with the EU on trade in goods, but not services.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44838028

[stevyy]

Re: UK Politics - Donald Trump's advice to Theresa May...

what a good idea...

The UK is so going to become the 51st state of the US after Brexit now that he called the EU Americas enemy.

[Rihab]

Sue us for what exactly.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics - Donald Trump's advice to Theresa May...

God only knows, you ain’t done anything to us yet

[stevyy]

Sue us for what exactly.

WW2 reparations would be a great cause... like Greece.

[Artoo]

Sue us for what exactly.

WW2 reparations would be a great cause... like Greece.

Nah, it was money well spent. Even if we did borrow most of it from the US.

[heppolo]

Sue us for what exactly.

WW2 reparations would be a great cause... like Greece.

As if Trump understands anything other than bankruptcy lawsuits

[Rihab]

So there are 'rumors' that May is preparing for the 'no deal' scenario and I'm starting to believe it...

It still doesn't seem like May's own government can agree on what kind of deal they want, let alone the rest of her party, the UK parliament, the EU commission, the EU parliament, the other 27 national governments and the other 27 national parliaments. And all of this needs to happen before November. I just don't see how that's possible. :-?

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics - Donald Trump's advice to Theresa May...

I support a No Deal option. I am very surprised it hasn’t been on the table all along, as it surely gives us leverage in negotiations. I appreciate we get a lot of things from outside the EU, but we could do with being a bit more self sufficient.

[Rihab]

I support a No Deal option. I am very surprised it hasn’t been on the table all along, as it surely gives us leverage in negotiations. I appreciate we get a lot of things from outside the EU, but we could do with being a bit more self sufficient.

How is it giving you 'leverage in negotiations' when you're expected to run out of food, petrol and medicine within days. Sounds dumb af.

3 days after a no deal Brexit, the UK government will be willing to accept ANY kind of deal to stop people from looting / rioting.

[Artoo]

I support a No Deal option. I am very surprised it hasn’t been on the table all along, as it surely gives us leverage in negotiations. I appreciate we get a lot of things from outside the EU, but we could do with being a bit more self sufficient.

How is it giving you 'leverage in negotiations' when you're expected to run out of food, petrol and medicine within days. Sounds dumb af.

3 days after a no deal Brexit, the UK government will be willing to accept ANY kind of deal to stop people from looting / rioting.

Don’t be silly

[LittleLinda]

Sue us for what exactly.

WW2 reparations would be a great cause... like Greece.

My knowledge on history is a little hazy, but I'm pretty sure the EU didn't participate in WW2 (due to lack of existence)...

[heppolo]

I support a No Deal option. I am very surprised it hasn’t been on the table all along, as it surely gives us leverage in negotiations. I appreciate we get a lot of things from outside the EU, but we could do with being a bit more self sufficient.

How is it giving you 'leverage in negotiations' when you're expected to run out of food, petrol and medicine within days. Sounds dumb af.

3 days after a no deal Brexit, the UK government will be willing to accept ANY kind of deal to stop people from looting / rioting.

Don’t be silly

UKIP used EU referendum as a dogwhistle for racism, they were just too scared to go full BNP with their intentions.

[jio]

Re: UK Politics - Donald Trump's advice to Theresa May...

Whoever believes the UK will definitely suffer anything more than temporary difficulties after a no-deal exit doesn't understand how propaganda works. The UK would be worse off under any scenario the first few months after the exit. No deal would create major disruptions (again the first few months). However what would happen a year after brexit is up for debate. The EU has no reason whatsoever to allow a successful brexit because that would open the doors for potentially other countries leaving. But that doesn't mean that the UK cannot be more successful without the EU... it certainly can.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics - Donald Trump's advice to Theresa May...

Deal or no deal? Deal, or so it seems.

I have to be honest, I’m so over Brexit. May has had a tough job no matter how you look at it, but the proof shall be in the pudding, as they say...

[Artoo]

Supposedly:

- A guarantee there will no physical border checks reintroduced between Northern Ireland and the Republic
- A backstop to avoid a hard border that would come into force after a mooted transition period in December 2020 - and last 'unless and until' another solution is put in place
- Brussels is said to have dropped its demand to create a border in the Irish Sea
- But instead the customs union would apply indefinitely to the whole of the UK and Britain could not be able to walk away from the arrangement without approval from an 'independent panel' made up of civil servants from the EU and Britain
- There could also be enhanced regulatory checks between mainland Britain and Northern Ireland
- Commitments to ensure a 'level playing field' during the backstop including accepting EU rules on environmental and labour standards and state aid
- A review due to be held in July 2020, towards the end of the transition period, will decide whether the backstop needs to come into force
- The three million EU citizens living in the UK and one million British citizens living in the EU will keep all their existing rights post-Brexit
- A divorce bill of between £39billion and £46billion will be paid to Brussels

[Rihab]

What a mess already and it’s only 9am. May might not survive today.