U.K. Politics: Nadine Dorries resigns her post as MP - or does she?

[Artoo]

That’s a pretty terrible margin.

She has almost 2/3 of the vote, that’s pretty decent.

Only spin would place a different stance on this.

It’s 63% vs 37%.

but what if those 37% decide to breakway to UKIP all of a sudden

Then they step down and are no longer MPs and cannot influence Brexit. Once you’re an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP

[heppolo]

Once you’re an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP

Actually changing political allegiance does not necessary triggers a resignation and a subsequent by-election (like a defection of Quentin Davies in 2007 from Tory to Labour).

[heppolo]

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[Wayne]

Once you’re an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP

Actually changing political allegiance does not necessary triggers a resignation and a subsequent by-election (like a defection of Quentin Davies in 2007 from Tory to Labour).

That was basically the end of his career though.

Legally, you can stay - but it's customary to resign your position. You are elected on a mandate to deliver objectives that are reasonably aligned with your party - if that changes, you can't in good faith remain. And if you do - there's little precedent for this - you can rest assured that your political career is likely not to continue at a high level.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

Even if there is an allegiance shift, it doesn’t impact on Brexit - the 117 aren’t going to vote for the deal. I’m glad this is over - let’s get back to it.

[Shadowplay]

ROTFL.

[MusicRecords]

k so...what did she win? :-?

And is this good or bad? WHat does it mean in regards to brexit? Someone tell me cause I know zero about British politics...

[Artoo]

k so...what did she win? :-?

And is this good or bad? WHat does it mean in regards to brexit? Someone tell me cause I know zero about British politics...

It means she’s still the leader of her political party, and as her party won the last election, she remains the Prime Minister and leader of our government.

Basically her position is exactly the same as it was 24 hours ago. The party rebels tried to stage a coup and failed. They’ve been threatening it for weeks, so now it’s happened and she survived it, it can only strengthen her resolve.

In terms of Brexit, it means she can continue leading the project.

[Kpop]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

[Kpop]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh; the majority of Parliament is against that.

[Wayne]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

A no deal Brexit wouldn’t do that at all, it’s hyperbole.

[MusicRecords]

How does Kpop have a moving avi?

[Artoo]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

A no deal Brexit wouldn’t do that at all, it’s hyperbole.

Exactly. I’m not saying we should have no deal (though I’m not against it as it is a complete exit) but in this scenario, there are only two options - the deal on offer and the no deal option. If MPs cannot support the deal then by default they support no deal.

[Artoo]

Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

So I was talking to a friend this morning who suggested May orchestrated yesterday’s events because it would strengthen her position and contribute significantly on getting the deal through parliament. She has form for trying to strengthen her position but if she knew most would have voted for her, I could see it.

[Kpop]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

A no deal Brexit wouldn’t do that at all, it’s hyperbole.

I was merely telling you what Pascal Lamy Director-General of the WTO (2005-2013) said:

He compared a Brexit on WTO terms, known as a Hard Brexit, to reducing the UK (in football terms) from Division 1 to Division 4. The single market being Division 1 whilst WTO is Division 4.
Pascal Lemy said Canada and the UK are Division 1; Bangladesh is Division 4.


You can see an excerpt of his interview with Matt Frei on Channel 4 News (you might have to click on the speaker symbol to open the sound on the video)

https://twitter.com/JezzyB/status/1070801726515625986

[clh_hilary]

So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think it’s safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesn’t guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

Hard Brexit it is.

Well, if Labour votes down her deal, they are responsible for a no deal just as much as anyone who votes down her deal is.

And if you do - there's little precedent for this - you can rest assured that your political career is likely not to continue at a high level.

There's a long list of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _the_floor

Of course most of them didn't reach new heights, but most politicians don't make it too far to begin with.

A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

Do you mean the UK will be submerged in water like much of Bangladesh will be with a rising sea level?

[aRat]

Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you aren’t ever going to happy and find a way forward. It’s as simple as that really.

[Artoo]

Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you aren’t ever going to happy and find a way forward. It’s as simple as that really.

Find the positive in everything.

[MusicRecords]

Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you aren’t ever going to happy and find a way forward. It’s as simple as that really.

Ay ay ayyy just save Burberry and Dua Lipa from the brexit disaster please

[heppolo]

Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

[Kpop]

Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

He was too kind. I wonder if she's a mentally ill women. What I'm sure of is she's an incompetent woman, who can't be trusted

[Artoo]

Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

I’m not sure. Should we have a referendum? Seems to the done thing to ask for a new one every time a decision is needed.

[heppolo]

Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

I’m not sure. Should we have a referendum? Seems to the done thing to ask for a new one every time a decision is needed.

Jeremy Corbyn should have slagged the whole Tory Party to their face with all the insults available in the English, Welsh, Gaelic languages to make it clear. Or at least do a Dennis Skinner.

[Kpop]

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LOL

[Artoo]

So this all feels very real now we’re in 2019. What happens if she loses the deal vote? If she’s serious about a no deal then being the only option, she’ll surely have to call a general election for April to ensure we leave the EU in March.