U.K. Politics: Nadine Dorries resigns her post as MP - or does she?

[Artoo]

But who's gonna work the land. I reckon that most Brits voted out because o immigration...

The irony here is most UK farmers use seasonal farmers from the continent - during strawberry picking season etc.

If the government decide it needs to increase British farming then it’ll have to figure out a career strategy for it and get younger people interested. I know you can go to college and university go study aspects of farming (animal rearing and business etc), but ultimately it will need to find a way of encouraging local communities to work for local farms again.

I would love that to happen. I try to buy British produce as often and as much as I can. I love a farmers market and farm shops. There’s something strangely satisfying in knowing the people who grew or raised your food... and there shouldn’t be as that’s how it should be - it’s the idea that sitting down to a meal and having food on your plate from 4 different continents that should be strange.

[Kpop]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/nissan-brexit-sunderland-japan-job-cuts-uk-eu-trade-exports-no-deal-gianluca-de-ficchy-a8760756.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-latest-nissan-xtrail-sunderland-car-industry-bmw-mini-toyota-honda-peugeot-vauxhall-a8760361.html

Sunderland voted by a large margin to leave the EU. To those in Sunderland who voted to leave the EU, especially the Nissan Workers: Enjoy

[Artoo]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8760756.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-latest-nissan-xtrail-sunderland-car-industry-bmw-mini-toyota-honda-peugeot-vauxhall-a8760361.html

Sunderland voted by a large margin to leave the EU. To those in Sunderland who voted to leave the EU, especially the Nissan Workers: Enjoy

Do you know how many times a similar article has appeared? This story isn’t new - Nissan has been on the verge of closing for over 20 years. I know people who work there - don’t believe the scaremongering.

Are you not tired of being of hating on Brexiteers yet? Hate the difference of opinion, not the people - you’re suggesting mass unemployment would be a good thing simply because you disagree with their politics. Try being a labour supporter under a Tory government for the last 10 years.

Holding onto your bitterness will only hurt you and no one else. You have to find the positives in everything and work with what you have got.

[Kpop]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-donald-tusk-press-conference-leo-varadkar-ireland-border-backstop-theresa-may-a8765606.html

"Special place in hell" for those who promoted Brexit without any plan.

[Rihab]

Brexit: UK has rolled over just £16bn out of £117bn trade deals
Liam Fox has agreed deals with only seven of 69 countries covered by EU arrangements

The government’s push to roll over EU trade deals from which the UK currently benefits has yielded agreements covering only £16bn of the near-£117bn of British trade with the countries involved.

Despite frenetic efforts by ministers to ensure the continuity of international trade after the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, the international trade secretary, Liam Fox, has so far only managed to secure deals with seven of the 69 countries that the UK currently trades with under preferential EU free trade agreements, which will end after Brexit.

Fox’s department has yet to sign agreements with several major UK trading partners – including Canada, Japan, South Korea and Turkey – while sources have said that sufficient progress is unlikely to be made before the Brexit deadline in less than 50 days’ time.

Canada, Japan, South Korea and Turkey alone accounted for goods exports worth £25bn in 2017 and imports of merchandise worth £28.6bn, with the UK currently able to access these markets on preferential terms as part of membership of the EU.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business...trade-deals-eu

So the UK is not only about to lose free trade with the EU, but also trade deals with 62 other countries.

[Kpop]

It's such a shame that sleazy Brexiteers like Fox, who claimed that making deals would be the easiest thing in history, thrive

[heppolo]

It's such a shame that sleazy Brexiteers like Fox, who claimed that making deals would be the easiest thing in history, thrive

Yeah, the only bad thing is that Tory Brexiteers profit off this whole debacle, who knew?

[aRat]

Brexit: UK has rolled over just £16bn out of £117bn trade deals
Liam Fox has agreed deals with only seven of 69 countries covered by EU arrangements




So the UK is not only about to lose free trade with the EU, but also trade deals with 62 other countries.

Umm WTF? They should stop obsessing over the less talented Kardashians aka The Royal Family and get to WORK. They need to get their sh!t together, many peoples jobs & well being depend on stuff like this...

[heppolo]

Meanwhile, some Labour centrists have attempted to split the party (7 MPs resigning from Labour Party feels kinda lame for all that fuss).

[Artoo]

Meanwhile, some Labour centrists have attempted to split the party (7 MPs resigning from Labour Party feels kinda lame for all that fuss).

It’s a step in the right direction. The Labour Party has suffered terribly over the last decade. It doesn’t feel like we are (yes, I’m a labour supporter) reclaiming seats and votes through policy and visions of future, but simply because people are sick of The Tory party.

I have never liked Corbyn and have no idea how he secured his seat after his leadership was challenged by his own MPs. Ed Miliband was an absolute joke and Corbyn is far too left for my liking. I stand firm in my belief that David Miliband would have turned the party around after Gordon Brown failed (he just couldn’t lead).

The thing everyone seems to have forgotten is that Blair only won by moving from the left into a more central position, and Cameron only won because he did exactly the same thing with the Conservative party. Now we seem to have extremely right Tories trying to pull the strings within their party (which May has done incredibly well to shut down along the way) and we have the Labour Party more to the left than it has been for decades.

No wonder neither party can secure a majority. We haven’t had a party win a comfortable majority since Labour in 2005 (technically the Tories won outright in 2015 but 12 seats is hardly a majority - which is why May called her disaster of an election in 2017). Something has to change.

7 centrist MPs have left labour today, true. Whilst not an official party yet (its not yet registered) they’ve decided to call themselves The Independent Group. I wish them luck and will watch with interest on what they stand for and offer.

[heppolo]

It's interesting that Blair-ites are trying to tear Labour Party left, right and centre. Anyway, this Independent Group has to clarify the sources of money.

Some opinion on the accountability of the newfounded political group:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-party-split-independent-group-antisemitism-jeremy-corbyn-gavin-shuker-a8785381.html

[Artoo]

It's interesting that Blair-ites are trying to tear Labour Party left, right and centre. Anyway, this Independent Group has to clarify the sources of money.

Some opinion on the accountability of the newfounded political group:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8785381.html

It isn’t an official political party yet, so I’m not sure they need to clarify anything. At the moment it’s just a registered company with MPs already in seats.

The Labour Party has been lost since Blair left. A return to Blair ideals (adapted for modern society) would be welcome I suspect. With distance and time it’s easier to see what did and did not work.

But overall I do think a central party has a lot of scope for big success. Politics is far from being a straight divide anymore.

[heppolo]

The Independent Group now has 3 Tory MPs on board, which can be considered some sort of success for their centrist platform.
So is the system shifting beyond the Tory/Labour division towards a Pro-Brexit/Anti-Brexit one?
There are rumours of wealthy donors pushing more moderate Labour and Tory MPs to join.

[Artoo]

You could read it as anti/pro Brexit, but I think it’s more than that. I’m very surprised Anna Soubry jumped ship after all she’s said throughout the Brexit stuff.

[heppolo]

You could read it as anti/pro Brexit, but I think it’s more than that. I’m very surprised Anna Soubry jumped ship after all she’s said throughout the Brexit stuff.

anti-Brexit is still holds significant electoral potential, after all Nigel Farage Brexit whatever party has a lot of people signed up already despite being a single issue party (and a re-branding of some failed UKIP flop)

[heppolo]

Okay, this tweet didn't age well really

[heppolo]

[KEY9481]

[Thriller]

Really don’t see it happening.

[Artoo]

Labour had no choice - I’d imagine a few more MPs had considered leaving. Just over 4 weeks and we have absolutely no idea what the future is for the country. I just hope May can pull Brexit off without delay - with or without a deal - so we can just get on with everything.