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  • Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
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    • Originally posted by menime123
      Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
      DUP can hold Tories to ransom at this point. But Michael Gove clearly stated they won't have a GE as long as Labour is at least slightly leading in the polls.
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      • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

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        • Originally posted by menime123
          Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
          Lmao are you trolling?
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          • Originally posted by menime123
            Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
            They can, if they think they have the numbers - they can call another no confidence vote at any point.

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            • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

              As things stand now, it will go down to a ''no deal'' exit
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              • Originally posted by heppolo
                Originally posted by menime123
                Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                DUP can hold Tories to ransom at this point. But Michael Gove clearly stated they won't have a GE as long as Labour is at least slightly leading in the polls.

                Itís the border issue thatís key, I agree. I donít know how you get around that now, unless the EU decides to actually backs down... which I canít see happening. But if the border issue isnít resolved before the end of March then surely the DUP can withdrawn their support and we have another confidence vote?

                This is never ending.
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                • Originally posted by menime123
                  Originally posted by heppolo
                  Originally posted by menime123
                  Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                  DUP can hold Tories to ransom at this point. But Michael Gove clearly stated they won't have a GE as long as Labour is at least slightly leading in the polls.

                  Itís the border issue thatís key, I agree. I donít know how you get around that now, unless the EU decides to actually backs down... which I canít see happening. But if the border issue isnít resolved before the end of March then surely the DUP can withdrawn their support and we have another confidence vote?

                  This is never ending.
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                  • Originally posted by Wayne
                    Originally posted by menime123
                    Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                    They can, if they think they have the numbers - they can call another no confidence vote at any point.

                    So if the EU doesnít back down over the border, then the DUP will withdraw support from the government, which means another vote of no confidence, which means another general election (if there is even time) and that means postponing Brexit and potential a Labour government that lets us have a second referendum that then could vote to remain in the EU.

                    Thereís no sense to the EU backing down over the border then. Basically it sounds like Brexit is ****ed.
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                    • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                      And with the vote being so close, I wouldnít be surprised if some Tory MPs jump ship next time and vote against May if they think it can make a legitimate difference.
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                      • Originally posted by heppolo
                        As things stand now, it will go down to a ''no deal'' exit
                        Which she should've been open about at the beginning - at the beginning of negotiations, she should've been very clear that if Europe wasn't willing to offer a suitable deal, the UK would be willing to walk away with no deal.

                        They knew she wasn't willing to walk away with no deal, and that informed the deal she ended up with (which doesn't really represent a Brexit of any kind).

                        The whole process has been incredibly frustrating - it should've been a full on Brexit, or a renegotiated relationship that sees us remain with Europe.

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                        • Originally posted by Wayne
                          Originally posted by menime123
                          Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                          They can, if they think they have the numbers - they can call another no confidence vote at any point.
                          Wait so he was being serious? MenIMe has been STAMPEDING all over this thread with rhetorics like "people need to accept the Brexit as a fact, it makes no sense to hold a second vote since the people already spoke" but the second he doesn't like a result he wants to hold another vote in a few weeks?

                          The shameless CLOWNERY I can't.
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                          • at Jio... institutions such as: Centre For Economic Performance, The London School of Economics and Political Science, WTO, IMF, Institute For International Economics, Bank of England, as well as the BBC Research, ONS, Reuters

                            I don't see how 80% of all research done on Brexit and its consequences can be wrong while 2% of all research gets it right.

                            Is the world really such a fan club of the EU?

                            It seems like all that the majority of the British public reads is facebook, twitter and the Daily Mail.

                            It is scary how easily the other side got away with false claims and misrepresentations and how little impact some of the most highly respected research institutions had on this matter.

                            I don't seem to understand the notion that a UK outside of the EU would generate 1,1 trillion pounds in economic trade balance with China (as was presented by the leavers) when in fact the UK makes more money channeling good through Rotterdam harbour per week than the entire trade revenue with China as it currently is.
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                            • Originally posted by menime123
                              So if the EU doesnít back down over the border, then the DUP will withdraw support from the government, which means another vote of no confidence, which means another general election (if there is even time) and that means postponing Brexit and potential a Labour government that lets us have a second referendum that then could vote to remain in the EU.
                              Two Conservative MPs didn't vote - they were either absent or they abstained. Even if the DUP votes were removed, with those two Conservative MPs voting next time and everyone else voting the same, she'd still survive a confidence vote (albeit only just).

                              And even if a vote of no confidence succeeds, that simply means that she has to resign - it then falls to the ruling Conservative party to try and establish a replacement government to govern the remainder of the term (and that would need to have the confidence of the House). If they can't do that, an opposition party would then have the chance to do the same. If this doesn't happen with 14 days of the no confidence vote, a General Election is called but that cannot take place for at least another 25 working days under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

                              In a nutshell, it's one giant bloody mess.

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                              • Originally posted by aRat
                                Originally posted by Wayne
                                Originally posted by menime123
                                Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                                They can, if they think they have the numbers - they can call another no confidence vote at any point.
                                Wait so he was being serious? MenIMe has been STAMPEDING all over this thread with rhetorics like "people need to accept the Brexit as a fact, it makes no sense to hold a second vote since the people already spoke" but the second he doesn't like a result he wants to hold another vote in a few weeks?

                                The shameless CLOWNERY I can't.

                                I donít want another vote. Just because they can doesnít mean I want it. And itís not the same vote. Why donít you try and understand whatís happening before going in for your cheap troll shots?
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                                • Originally posted by Wayne
                                  Originally posted by menime123
                                  So if the EU doesnít back down over the border, then the DUP will withdraw support from the government, which means another vote of no confidence, which means another general election (if there is even time) and that means postponing Brexit and potential a Labour government that lets us have a second referendum that then could vote to remain in the EU.
                                  Two Conservative MPs didn't vote - they were either absent or they abstained. Even if the DUP votes were removed, with those two Conservative MPs voting next time and everyone else voting the same, she'd still survive a confidence vote (albeit only just).

                                  And even if a vote of no confidence succeeds, that simply means that she has to resign - it then falls to the ruling Conservative party to try and establish a replacement government to govern the remainder of the term (and that would need to have the confidence of the House). If they can't do that, an opposition party would then have the chance to do the same. If this doesn't happen with 14 days of the no confidence vote, a General Election is called but that cannot take place for at least another 25 working days under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

                                  In a nutshell, it's one giant bloody mess.

                                  But who the hell would the tories get behind at this point? Theyíre totally divided within themselves - there was an attempted coup just weeks ago.

                                  At least theyíre all earning their wages at the moment
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                                  • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                                    The only thing the Tories seem to want less than Theresa May is Jeremy Corbyn - I don't think they'd give up their chance of governing the country. One senior Tory even stated that they're "like a family" when it matters.

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                                    • Originally posted by Wayne
                                      The only thing the Tories seem to want less than Theresa May is Jeremy Corbyn - I don't think they'd give up their chance of governing the country. One senior Tory even stated that they're "like a family" when it matters.
                                      Iím a labour voter but even I donít want Corbyn
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                                      • Originally posted by menime123
                                        Originally posted by Wayne
                                        The only thing the Tories seem to want less than Theresa May is Jeremy Corbyn - I don't think they'd give up their chance of governing the country. One senior Tory even stated that they're "like a family" when it matters.
                                        Iím a labour voter but even I donít want Corbyn
                                        Leading the party seems too much for an eternal ''moral superiority'' backbencher like Corbyn. John McDonnell or Tom Watson would have done a much better job leading Labour at this point.
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                                        • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                                          I imagine most voters in this pole are not British so not sure what itís meant to show, hardly a British perspective.
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                                          • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                                            Okay, so who are other 11 people that voted leave?
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                                            • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                                              The poll is very clearly biased by Europeaners
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                                              • ^ Yup
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                                                • Originally posted by menime123
                                                  Originally posted by aRat
                                                  Originally posted by Wayne
                                                  Originally posted by menime123
                                                  Iíve just caught up on the results (Iím on a 3 hour train journey) and Iím shocked at how close she won it by. Canít they just call another vote of no confidence in a few weeks if they think they might have the numbers?
                                                  They can, if they think they have the numbers - they can call another no confidence vote at any point.
                                                  Wait so he was being serious? MenIMe has been STAMPEDING all over this thread with rhetorics like "people need to accept the Brexit as a fact, it makes no sense to hold a second vote since the people already spoke" but the second he doesn't like a result he wants to hold another vote in a few weeks?

                                                  The shameless CLOWNERY I can't.

                                                  I donít want another vote. Just because they can doesnít mean I want it. And itís not the same vote. Why donít you try and understand whatís happening before going in for your cheap troll shots?
                                                  I know they are not the same dummy, I am just asking why you were so adamant on the stance that the Brexit vote needs to stay unchanged but have have no problem with having multiple votings regarding other topics like the confidence vote? Are you sure you don't enjoy those The Mail articles you keep 'reading'?
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                                                  • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May ďwinsĒ confidence vote (325-306

                                                    Donít talk about things you clearly donít understand.

                                                    The one vote I would support? A vote on your continued memebership here.
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