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  • Originally posted by heppolo
    Originally posted by Wayne
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    Thatís a pretty terrible margin.
    She has almost 2/3 of the vote, thatís pretty decent.

    Only spin would place a different stance on this.

    Itís 63% vs 37%.
    but what if those 37% decide to breakway to UKIP all of a sudden

    Then they step down and are no longer MPs and cannot influence Brexit. Once youíre an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP
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    • Originally posted by menime123
      Once youíre an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP
      Actually changing political allegiance does not necessary triggers a resignation and a subsequent by-election (like a defection of Quentin Davies in 2007 from Tory to Labour).
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        • Originally posted by heppolo
          Originally posted by menime123
          Once youíre an MP you cannot just switch your party and remain an MP
          Actually changing political allegiance does not necessary triggers a resignation and a subsequent by-election (like a defection of Quentin Davies in 2007 from Tory to Labour).
          That was basically the end of his career though.

          Legally, you can stay - but it's customary to resign your position. You are elected on a mandate to deliver objectives that are reasonably aligned with your party - if that changes, you can't in good faith remain. And if you do - there's little precedent for this - you can rest assured that your political career is likely not to continue at a high level.

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          • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

            Even if there is an allegiance shift, it doesnít impact on Brexit - the 117 arenít going to vote for the deal. Iím glad this is over - letís get back to it.
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            • ROTFL.
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              • k so...what did she win? :-?

                And is this good or bad? WHat does it mean in regards to brexit? Someone tell me cause I know zero about British politics...
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                • Originally posted by MusicRecords
                  k so...what did she win? :-?

                  And is this good or bad? WHat does it mean in regards to brexit? Someone tell me cause I know zero about British politics...
                  It means sheís still the leader of her political party, and as her party won the last election, she remains the Prime Minister and leader of our government.

                  Basically her position is exactly the same as it was 24 hours ago. The party rebels tried to stage a coup and failed. Theyíve been threatening it for weeks, so now itís happened and she survived it, it can only strengthen her resolve.

                  In terms of Brexit, it means she can continue leading the project.
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                  • Originally posted by menime123
                    So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                    Hard Brexit it is.
                    A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.

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                    • Originally posted by Kpop
                      Originally posted by menime123
                      So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                      Hard Brexit it is.
                      A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh; the majority of Parliament is against that.

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                      • Originally posted by Kpop
                        Originally posted by menime123
                        So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                        Hard Brexit it is.
                        A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.
                        See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

                        A no deal Brexit wouldnít do that at all, itís hyperbole.

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                          • Originally posted by Wayne
                            Originally posted by Kpop
                            Originally posted by menime123
                            So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                            Hard Brexit it is.
                            A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.
                            See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

                            A no deal Brexit wouldnít do that at all, itís hyperbole.

                            Exactly. Iím not saying we should have no deal (though Iím not against it as it is a complete exit) but in this scenario, there are only two options - the deal on offer and the no deal option. If MPs cannot support the deal then by default they support no deal.
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                            • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

                              So I was talking to a friend this morning who suggested May orchestrated yesterdayís events because it would strengthen her position and contribute significantly on getting the deal through parliament. She has form for trying to strengthen her position but if she knew most would have voted for her, I could see it.
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                              • Originally posted by Wayne
                                Originally posted by Kpop
                                Originally posted by menime123
                                So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                                Hard Brexit it is.
                                A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.
                                See, this rhetoric does remainers like you no favours - are you speaking from an economic standpoint? Because if so, our per capita GDP would need to decline by 96% to reach Bangladeshi levels.

                                A no deal Brexit wouldnít do that at all, itís hyperbole.

                                I was merely telling you what Pascal Lamy Director-General of the WTO (2005-2013) said:

                                He compared a Brexit on WTO terms, known as a Hard Brexit, to reducing the UK (in football terms) from Division 1 to Division 4. The single market being Division 1 whilst WTO is Division 4.
                                Pascal Lemy said Canada and the UK are Division 1; Bangladesh is Division 4.


                                You can see an excerpt of his interview with Matt Frei on Channel 4 News (you might have to click on the speaker symbol to open the sound on the video)

                                https://twitter.com/JezzyB/status/1070801726515625986

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                                • Originally posted by menime123
                                  So unless Labour call a vote of no confidence in the government, we are heading for a no deal Brexit. I think itís safe to assume the 117 who had no confidence in her will not vote for the deal, and the 200 who did have confidence doesnít guarantee they will vote for the Brexit deal too.

                                  Hard Brexit it is.
                                  Well, if Labour votes down her deal, they are responsible for a no deal just as much as anyone who votes down her deal is.

                                  Originally posted by Wayne
                                  And if you do - there's little precedent for this - you can rest assured that your political career is likely not to continue at a high level.
                                  There's a long list of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _the_floor

                                  Of course most of them didn't reach new heights, but most politicians don't make it too far to begin with.

                                  Originally posted by Kpop
                                  A Hard Brexit would relegate the UK to the level of Bangladesh: The majority of Parliament is against that.
                                  Do you mean the UK will be submerged in water like much of Bangladesh will be with a rising sea level?
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                                  Voice of the truth here!!

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                                  • Originally posted by menime123
                                    Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you arenít ever going to happy and find a way forward. Itís as simple as that really.
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                                    • Originally posted by aRat
                                      Originally posted by menime123
                                      Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you arenít ever going to happy and find a way forward. Itís as simple as that really.

                                      Find the positive in everything.

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                                      • Originally posted by aRat
                                        Originally posted by menime123
                                        Unless you accept Brexit is the future, you arenít ever going to happy and find a way forward. Itís as simple as that really.


                                        Ay ay ayyy just save Burberry and Dua Lipa from the brexit disaster please
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                                        • Re: UK Politics: Theresa May wins confidence vote (200-117)

                                          Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.
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                                          • Originally posted by heppolo
                                            Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.
                                            He was too kind. I wonder if she's a mentally ill women. What I'm sure of is she's an incompetent woman, who can't be trusted

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                                            • Originally posted by heppolo
                                              Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

                                              Iím not sure. Should we have a referendum? Seems to the done thing to ask for a new one every time a decision is needed.
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                                              • Originally posted by menime123
                                                Originally posted by heppolo
                                                Jeremy Corbyn caused an outrage today allegedly calling Theresa May ''a stupid woman'' during Prime Minister's Questions.

                                                Iím not sure. Should we have a referendum? Seems to the done thing to ask for a new one every time a decision is needed.
                                                Jeremy Corbyn should have slagged the whole Tory Party to their face with all the insults available in the English, Welsh, Gaelic languages to make it clear. Or at least do a Dennis Skinner.
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                                                • [youtube:1lzk6c70]BFU6ig6giwc[/youtube:1lzk6c70]

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                                                  • So this all feels very real now weíre in 2019. What happens if she loses the deal vote? If sheís serious about a no deal then being the only option, sheíll surely have to call a general election for April to ensure we leave the EU in March.
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