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  • It won't dissolve because it serves an EU policy. Unless of course another concentration camp (the one Turkey proposes in Syria and the one that Germany supports which is based on massive ethnic cleansing) goes ahead.
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    • After another election defeat Zac Goldsmith was given a cabinet position and a peerage
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      • Originally posted by heppolo View Post
        After another election defeat Zac Goldsmith was given a cabinet position and a peerage
        He's the second person - Nicky Morgan will also be seated in the Lords as she's now no longer in an MP position and she'll retain a cabinet position as Culture Secretary.

        It's ridiculous.

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        • Originally posted by Wayne View Post
          He's the second person - Nicky Morgan will also be seated in the Lords as she's now no longer in an MP position and she'll retain a cabinet position as Culture Secretary.

          It's ridiculous.
          Shows the quality of those elected MPs if BoJo had to dig deep into the losers' bench.
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          • The UK is due to leave the European Union (EU) on 31 January 2020, after Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Brexit deal was passed by MPs.

            On 20 December 2019, MPs voted 358 to 234 - a majority of 124 - in favour of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, which now goes on to further scrutiny in Parliament.

            Assuming the European Parliament also gives the green light, the UK will formally leave the EU on 31 January with a withdrawal deal.

            However, this would only mark the next step in the Brexit process. Following its departure, the UK will enter a transition period until 31 December 2020.

            During this period, the UK's trading relationship with the EU will remain the same while the two sides negotiate a free trade deal. At the same time, many other aspects of the UK's future relationship with the EU - including law enforcement, data sharing and security - will need to be agreed.

            If a trade deal is ready in time, the UK's new relationship with the EU can begin immediately after the transition. If not, the UK faces the prospect of having to trade with no agreement in force. This would mean checks and tariffs on UK goods travelling to the EU.

            Mr Johnson has also ruled out any form of extension to the transition period, meaning the clock is already ticking.

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            • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
              How did the vote go in everyone's constituencies? I voted Labour and got a Labour MP.
              I voted Labour, as a tactical vote, and got a Labour MP.

              Result was a shocking example of how badly First Past The Post works in terms of actually representing the views of the people. I would much rather we had something more proportional like we have in Wales and Scotland, where we still have perfectly functioning governments, even when they're frequently either minority governments or coalitions.

              The other interesting thing was the breakdown of the votes - as analysed by the "exit poll" (which is always near enough spot on). It suggested that the old days of "working class = Labour / middle class = Tory" has totally broken down. In fact, working class people were the more likely demographic to vote Tory, albeit not by that much. The big differences were a truly stark differential in ages - younger people really overwhelmingly voting Labour (65%+) - and older people overwhelmingly voting Tory (65%+). There has been a bias before of younger people voting Labour and older ones voting Tory, but never to that extent, AFAIK. Also, and make of it what you will, a majority of people (i.e. over 50%) who quit school at 16 voted Tory, whilst if only those with degrees had voted, we would actually have a Labour majority government.

              Going forward, Labour have the real challenge to deal with at present - where do they go from here? Their most popular periods in terms of share of the vote were in 1997 and 2001 (Blair prior to him going into war in Iraq) and in 2017 (at the height of Corbyn-mania). Quite how you get the best of both of those and put them together, I'm not sure, but I think there's some amongst their leadership contenders who might stand a reasonable chance at doing that.

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              • This article pretty much sums up how I feel: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a9312436.html

                The people the BBC chose to interview last night make me feel so ashamed to be British. Members of the great unwashed, clearly uneducated enough to actually know how to respond could only muster up something about “independence” and “sovereignty” - independence from what? Have we been freed from shackles that have hampered our every day existence?

                It makes my blood boil that these people, these Proles, have decided on aspects of my future against my will.

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                • I mourn our exit - I love my family and I truly would never wish them any ill will but sitting in my car yesterday and listening to my Nanna talk about how delighted she was to leave the EU made me feel really sad. And then watching those interviews on the BBC, people referencing us getting our courts back from Germany (WTF) and regaining sovereignty - so disappointed.

                  I read something today about the voting stats and some clever person has predicted that we'll be back in the EU by 2036 (as that's when the majority of those who voted "OUT" will be dead).

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                  • THIS hurts me.



                    I hope everything works out for the UK.
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                    • I guess y’all aren’t doing that much better than Amerikkka.
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                      • Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
                        I guess y’all aren’t doing that much better than Amerikkka.
                        We are just one step behind burning other countries' flags... Europe is probably worse than AmeriKKKa now. In Europe it is illegal to resue people in the Mediterranean from drowning.

                        Yalls got dying children in cages, we got dead children bodies washed up on our shores. The keyword is, there is too many children DYING.
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                        • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                          THIS hurts me.



                          I hope everything works out for the UK.
                          Give it some time. Eventually they'll realise that their problems didn't magically disappear after leaving the EU and they fell for the oldest trick in the book: Being presented with a scapegoat that turned out not to be the root of the issue.

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                          • Originally posted by LittleLinda View Post

                            Give it some time. Eventually they'll realise that their problems didn't magically disappear after leaving the EU and they fell for the oldest trick in the book: Being presented with a scapegoat that turned out not to be the root of the issue.
                            Tories will find a new scapegoat (migrants, different religions/race, etc.), that's what they do best.
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                            • EU Musicians Will Now Require Visas to Tour in Post-Brexit UK


                              The new system, which asks EU artists to prove they have 945 in savings, takes effect in 2021

                              The United Kingdom’s Home Office has announced new regulations that will require musicians from the European Union to apply for Tier 5 visas in order to tour in the UK once the Brexit transition period ends in December 2020.

                              The UK’s new “points-based immigration system” will end free movement from EU-member countries to the UK, subjecting musicians—as well as athletes and other entertainers—traveling from the EU to the same regulations as those traveling from outside the EU. The Tier 5 visa, which currently carries a 244 application fee, also requires a certificate of sponsorship and for workers to prove that they have at least 945 in savings for 90 days before they apply. Current regulations allow workers to travel throughout the UK without any fees or work permits.

                              Non-EU workers can currently apply for a 30-day Permitted Paid Engagement (PPE) visa, though the process is arduous enough to have discouraged musicians from applying. The eligibility requirements also appear to disqualify touring bands who plan to continue their tour outside the UK.

                              Musician advocacy groups have been calling for the UK to adopt a 2-year, multi-entry visa. The Home Office has given no indication they plan to consider such a visa, despite culture minister Nigel Adams’ insistence that “touring is absolutely the lifeblood of the industry.”


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                              • poor Rammstein... They have 3 concerts lined up in the UK this summer. A-Ha is also on tour there.

                                Also poor Niall Horan.
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                                • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                  poor Rammstein... They have 3 concerts lined up in the UK this summer. A-Ha is also on tour there.

                                  Also poor Niall Horan.
                                  They’ll be fine this summer, it’s from 2021. The savings thing seems harsh on smaller artists who might not necessarily have savings!

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                                  • Will be interesting to see if / how the EU reciprocates. EU artists could lose one market, British artists 27.

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                                      • Originally posted by Rihab View Post
                                        Will be interesting to see if / how the EU reciprocates. EU artists could lose one market, British artists 27.
                                        among them are 4 of the current top 10 music industries in the world.
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