Russia and Ukraine

[franklex]

Why Some Ukrainians Aren't Happy With Navalny's Oscar Win

No idea why the Time is saying "some Ukrainians" I know just a few who are happy with Oscar win.
Amnesty International = Academy of Oscar (for Ukrainians now)
Again this creazy position about some mysteriouse russian opposition.

https://time.com/6262460/oscars-alex...kraine-russia/

From the aticle:

the Russian opposition leader cited the “unjust war of aggression in Ukraine” as the reason he is currently in solitary confinement in a Russian prison.

Geat, and exactly this man, agreed on anexation of Crimea and said "Crimea is not a sandwich that you give back and force" but only after invasion that took place in 2022 this man understood something. I am sory but I am not bying this. Especially when. in this case, the West closes its eyes on some crutual points.
Also nice to see when the Academy bans Zelensky and saying the Academy is out of politics and choose a movie about domestic politic in Russia. Damn it is literally equal to Amnesty International fck up.

[franklex]

First 70 days report. Unique videos and stories from those who were there . All that happened to them, how it was and what they got a chanse to recorded. Not a single movie shows this. As an addition, russians are trying to ban this video on Youtube. Video has english subtitles. No death scences, or almost none.


Video made by female soilder and volonteur also she is an anit-couption activist. Her video as such as hard to watch as videos I saw about Mariupol.

[franklex]

All have come, family, ordinary people, friends, military comanders, president and oposition, nationalists and jews and lgbt all have come to say goodbye. Really hard week:



Dmytro Kotsiubailo (Ukrainian: Дмитро Іванович Коцюбайло, nickname Da Vinci (Ukrainian: Да Вінчі); 1 November 1995 – 7 March 2023) was a Ukrainian volunteer, soldier, junior lieutenant, a commander of the 1st Mechanized Battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He was a participant in the Russo-Ukrainian War. Kotsiubailo was the youngest battalion commander in the history of the Ukrainian Army. He was allegedly linked with the Right Sector.^[1]

Dmytro Kotsiubailo was born on 1 November 1995 in the village of Zadnistrianske, now Burshtyn community, Ivano-Frankivsk Raion, Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast, Ukraine. He graduated from Bovshivka Secondary School and Ivano-Frankivsk Art Lyceum.

He was an active participant of the Revolution of Dignity. Participant of the Russo-Ukrainian War, in particular, a platoon commander of volunteers (2014) and a company (2015). In 2014, he was wounded in Pisky, Donetsk Oblast, and returned to the front after recovery. On 17 March 2016, he was appointed commander of the 1st Mechanized Battalion "Da Vinci Wolves" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
On 7 March 2023, Kotsiubailo was killed in the battles of Bakhmut. This was stated by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in his video address: Today, 'Da Vinci', a Hero of Ukraine, a volunteer, a man-symbol, a man of courage, Dmytro Kotsiubailo, was killed in action. A fighter of the 67th separate mechanized brigade, a commander. He died in the battle near Bakhmut, in the battle for Ukraine.^[4]

[franklex]

Are Slovakia And Poland Finally Serious About Giving Ukraine Their Old MiG-29s?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=2f0d4ebf68c3

I feel like we will know the answer, right after Zaluzhy will makes his move and all this will become clear.

[franklex]

A little bit of local "food":
Zelensky responded to petition on renaming Russia to "Moscovia" Source: https://censor.net/en/n3405067

https://censor.net/en/news/3405067/z...ia_to_moscovia

The West wiith its "it is Putin", "Putin's war" and it's sometimes denial view that this is "not russia and not russian" pushes ukrainians into a one more demantion of this war. SO if this war of Putin and it is not russia then this might be Moscovia and Putin is a Tsar. Also, I feel, if this thing will go futher, then probably Eastern Europe's countries will return to historical name of russia in their languages too. Btw, Putin already started it and said about that, and ukainians didn't wait for long time . Russian propaganda is creazy about Zelensky has responded on this petitions and suggested to work on this topic to the goverment

[franklex]

Turkey stops supplying sanctioned goods to Russia

Afte a yea Turkey give Putin a such a punch... Russian suppliers also got a huge panic now, they have no idea how get all that sanctioned goods now. Turkey were a such a huge gateway for it and Turkey just ended it. Now expecting russia will produce less missiles during the month.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...u-us-to-russia

[franklex]

Hard to tell what are their reasons... My personal guess is that they glad russia is no longer at such a teasty maket like EU and Saudi Arabia can get more cake now and they kinda paid-off to Ukraine )) Hey, u, ukrainians can you beat russians more we can help haha, we heard you need fuel for your future tank army, so it's time to visit Kyiv

[jordi_89]

Saudi Arabia balances its stance on Ukraine with $400 million in humanitarian aid

https://atalayar.com/en/content/saud...manitarian-aid

Ukraine has no missing oil and gas production, so when Saudi Arabia will gives a fuel for humanitarian needs, ukrainian fuel will go to our tanks and firejets.

Lol Saudi Arabia doing the right thing for once? Shocked.

[franklex]

Saudi Arabia balances its stance on Ukraine with $400 million in humanitarian aid

https://atalayar.com/en/content/saud...manitarian-aid

Ukraine has no missing oil and gas production, so when Saudi Arabia will gives a fuel for humanitarian needs, ukrainian fuel will go to our tanks and firejets.

[franklex]

[franklex]

That this could also symbolize the hundreds of thousands of lives that were decimated by an ideal of a "Ukraine for a one race" of ukrainian far-right nationalists who led such efforts of "independence".

Also if we talk about pics etc lets take a look at Jews comunities in just a few pics:

RUSSIA	UKRAINE
Jewish museum in Moscow (15M+ city): which was builg in bus garage.	Dnipro City - Jewish Center (1M+ city), central district, massive structure:
So with all that glories that moscow shouws off with its architecture the Juwish Museum and center of tolerance is located in ex-garage. This may shows a true place of jewish in Russia by an a viw of russians I think.	Zelensky, my best friend are jewish and me is ukrainian. We all coming from this region. As well as some far-rights. You can show some pics of nazis but I was living there for 20 yeas and did not any case of rasism or nazism in my area and we all lived in peace unless russia has come to kill us all via missiles or via guns or via tortures and executions or via massacras and starvation as they did before many times.

Despite those people can be heoes for someone i think, Ukraine has much more better heroes nowdays and in thepast, but I may agee it is great to see how russians going creazy when they dealing with ukainian nationalists, becouse russian nationalists are thinking we are all slavic and one nation. Freedom of speach allows you to say a lot of things, even listen opinions you do not share and agree with but what matter the most is an action. For a 20 years I had no rasism expirrience or nationalism in my region with me or ANY of my friends. The only negative thing was an lgbt discrimination and stupid bulling. Hopefully, we are out of Russia now and lgbt comunity feels more free now and Ukrainians are freely move to europe and become more open and tolerant.

[franklex]

For those who wants to tell or ask more about nazis in Ukraine better start with nazis in Russia what they did and do. I also can post tonnes of materials aboput nazis in Russia. So if Putin would to "de-nazify" someone, he should start from russia and better from himself and his chief Prigozhin and so on

Russia Neo-Nazis: Sky News Reveals Gang Training

The Rise Of Neo-Nazism In Russia

Fascist Killers Are Waging War on Russia's Children

[franklex]

This is classified as Ukrainian fascist propaganda here [1][3][4].

I don't know who has decided it but even from "Educational laws and rules of the OUN" - The flag consists of two colors: red and black. The black color symbolizes the Ukrainian land, and the red color symbolizes the blood you paid for Ukraine. Not for nazis or Hitler or white race or something. Even now ceremonies at cementaries of those who has died at this war also comes with black/red flag.

I bet they decided it is nazi symbols becouse of some pics from the internet.

Russia, in an insightful way, takes advantage of this to introduce the vast Ukrainian contradictions in its propaganda. And Russia has won the narrative war in much of the world.

I am not agree on that. Russian propaganda try to use ANYTYING. But nothing can change this:
Ukraine were a peace country unless Russia has started a war.
Ukraine did not anexed Russian therithories but ussia did in 2014 and 2023 despite Russia recognized Ukrainian borders including Crimea.
Ukraine did not eased any city like it did russia
Not Nato attacked russia but ussia attacked Ukraine and did it not declaring a war.
The power in russia did not changed for 20 years. Meanwhile Ukraine got 6 presidents and 5 Parlanet elections and each time majority were changed and

So 141 nation that voted at the UN infavor for Ukraine and demanded Russia to withdraw from Ukraine is quite says a lot. Especially if you look that those countries that fight against nazis and those who was on nazi side all voted for Ukraine. Only those who lets be honst know nothing about Ukaine and do not give a fck about Ukraine did their usual thing - just ignored it.

[franklex]

You have turned these cruel figures into national heroes, whom almost entirely Western historiography[1][2][3][4] recognizes as cowardly nazifascists who took advantage of a racial persecution of the third reich against Jews and Poles to create a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide in General Government (occupied Poland), instead of leading successful efforts against soviets in Ukrainian-majority areas to the east.

This is not that true as a whole. First of all they are heroes for some people in Ukraine but not for a majority. If you would ever speack with Ukrainians I bet you would hea about those name from 2..3 person from 100 or even 1000 Ukrainians. Ofcourse about Bandera we know almost everione nowdays. The West not always knows everitying and during soviet time the West knew only that russians showed about Ukraine.

Bandera and Stetsko were held in the central Berlin prison at Spandau from 15 September 1941 until January 1942, when they were transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special barrack for high-profile political prisoners, Zellenbau.^{[10] Wikipedia}

So this is really stange that nazis capture nazis and send them to concentration camps. They tried to get a freedom at any cost, they were nazi-collaborators but this was not their main goal.

They fight with polish since in 1917 they declared and independence and Poland conquer those areas after 1922. So they fight there against anyone.

"soviets in Ukrainian-majority areas to the east" is a total bulshit. After colectivization in 1928 and Holodomor (massive starvation that was made by Kremlin in 1932-1933) and futher replacments of ukrainians that were killed or dead with russians there was no Ukrainian-majority. Its a lie. So this is wrong opinion for nationalist come to east where is now 50% or russians and try to ask them to join an idea of independent Ukraine...

[franklex]

Debating the vision that has been structured on Ukraine beyond the walls of the white population is essential to understand why countries representing 6 billion people (or 4 billion, as a conservative estimate) fear in a storm way to support Ukraine.

What this even suppose to mean I have no clue... Our president is jewish, our representetive at eurovision this year is black(one of them), we have another black artists and actors. We have stable elections each 5/6 years of our president and parlament and each time far-right parties got no any sycces as well as president candidates. We also do not erase cities, russian propaganda likes to say about Dombibg Bombas, how Ukraqine bombed Donetsk from 2014 but this city looks just untoched, but not Mariupol which russia has come to "liberate", russians propaganda is saying about genocide in Donbass which was actually controlled by Russia and call us nazis instead.

This is just ridiculous to try to find nazis in Ukaine meanwhile russia is destroying cities, anexing therithories, stollen cildrens and and strikes civil infrastructure. And on the other hands some pics from internet.

eally countries fea to support Ukraine??? Becouse of a few pic?? So what did Russia is ok for those countries?? All that massacra, rapings of children and womans by russian soilders, all that bombardments and erasing of cities or when russia become a dictatorship and its power didn't changeed in 20 years... Damn if this is not nazis then I don't know how to even discuss this.

[franklex]

I think if you got so nervous and aggressive it's because that tweet might have a little bit of truth

The tweet was posted on March 4 and had over 70,000 views, being quite popular on Global South accounts

Just asking if the pic is real or was created by computer tricks

Debating the vision that has been structured on Ukraine beyond the walls of the white population is essential to understand why countries representing 6 billion people (or 4 billion, as a conservative estimate) fear in a storm way to support Ukraine.

I am pissed off due to ANOTHER time when people put here pics from internet with no seriouse information except "ukainian nazis" We can find tonnes this type of pics from Russia or Germany or Poland. But for some reason only "ukrainian" case we should responce here.

70.000+ views is nothing compare to some stupid Elon Masks tweets, so??? What is the point? I do also say that NYTimes also put a lot of stupid information like that Russsia will sell gas and oil to China even Russia phisycally is not able to do it.

Picture is real it comes from here - http://archive.cym.org/ca/etobicoke/...geLanguage=ukr
Its Canada 2012. For me it is all strange. Some kids that wear uniform that is not similar to ukrainian, at some canadian school got a picture and two flags. I don't know what they did there but I could organize anithing like this anywhere. I don't see anything nazi there. They do not show nazi symbolic, not talking about "white nation". The person is contavercy for me but due to the description he is relative to some who's living in Canada, And that page gives any relation to nazis or something of that ideology.

[zagan0401]

First, this picture comes from 2012 and from Canada not from Ukraine.

The description of the image is correct, although I think there may be confusion.

It was taken in a Ukrainian "cultural enclave" in Toronto, Canada, almost entirely composed of the Ukrainian diaspora, its members have dual nationality, learn the Ukrainian language and are influential in Ukraine's internal politics. So, it's a ukrainian school.

Unless you don't know that, it seems a little cynical to me.

In addition, you can see pics of moments similar to this in Ukraine between 2004 and 2018 here[1].

Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland.

Third: Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.

And Last Red and Black colors symbolyzing blood of ukrainian soilders and people. If you take flag of Ukraine and put it into a blood it will become red/black. It symbols a suffering and resistance to fight for Ukraine and pay with your own blod for the goal of independant Ukaine.

That this could also symbolize the hundreds of thousands of lives that were decimated by an ideal of a "Ukraine for a one race" of ukrainian far-right nationalists who led such efforts of "independence".

You have turned these cruel figures into national heroes, whom almost entirely Western historiography[1][2][3][4] recognizes as cowardly nazifascists who took advantage of a racial persecution of the third reich against Jews and Poles to create a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide in General Government (occupied Poland), instead of leading successful efforts against soviets in Ukrainian-majority areas to the east.

[1]Radio Canada Internacional (RCI)
[2]Haaretz
[3]Lund University
[4]DW

Anders Rudling[1][2], John-Paul Himka[1], Andreas Umland[4], Grzegorz Rossolinski-Liebe[4].

Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland. Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.

This is classified as Ukrainian fascist propaganda here [1][3][4].

So i think that tweet is just as a whole is fake. You could see comments under that tweer there is much more about nazis in russia rather then picture of something in Canada....

Russia, in an insightful way, takes advantage of this to introduce the vast Ukrainian contradictions in its propaganda. And Russia has won the narrative war in much of the world.

[zagan0401]

^^ why do you post this here? I am seriouse this topic needs a spetial thread about this whole neo-nazi shit.

YOu say - Is this real?
Real what? Picture, words, post??? what?

I think if you got so nervous and aggressive it's because that tweet might have a little bit of truth

The tweet was posted on March 4 and had over 70,000 views, being quite popular on Global South accounts

Just asking if the pic is real or was created by computer tricks

Debating the vision that has been structured on Ukraine beyond the walls of the white population is essential to understand why countries representing 6 billion people (or 4 billion, as a conservative estimate) fear in a storm way to support Ukraine.

[marat2408]

Hadn't the US along with the UK and Ukraine accused Russia without evidence about the sabotage? This is embarassing...
I can imagine the next chapter: this "Pro-Ukrainian" group were in reality Russians who oppose the war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/u...e-ukraine.html

Bulls**t. I wouldn't be surprised if european press will say the same. NATO just try to deflect suspicion from themselves.

[franklex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/guyverhof...81363970826240

[GreekGeek]

Hadn't the US along with the UK and Ukraine accused Russia without evidence about the sabotage? This is embarassing...
I can imagine the next chapter: this "Pro-Ukrainian" group were in reality Russians who oppose the war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/u...e-ukraine.html

[franklex]

^^ why do you post this here? I am seriouse this topic needs a spetial thread about this whole neo-nazi shit.

YOu say - Is this real?
Real what? Picture, words, post??? what?

Fist, this picture comes from 2012 and from Canada not from Ukraine.
Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland
Thid Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.
And Last Red and Black colors symbolyzing blood of ukrainian soilders and people. If you take flag of Ukraine and put it into a blood it will become red/black. It symbols a suffering and resistance to fight for Ukraine and pay with your own blod for the goal of independant Ukaine.

So i think that tweet is just as a whole is fake. You could see comments under that tweer there is much more about nazis in russia rather then picture of something in Canada....

[zagan0401]

Is this real?

[franklex]

Whole Ukraine covers their pages with two simple words "SLAVA UKRAINI" ("Glory to Ukraine"). in the response of how russians killed ukrainian soilder for two words. Another devastating and barbaric war crime.

[18+] Execution of a Captured Ukrainian For The Words Glory To Ukraine.



But some idiots keep talking that Ukrainians are nazis and saying about that ukrainians make war crimes which they can not show to us, just words like it just should be like they say...

[zagan0401]